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Post by The Elder King on Aug 27, 2024 8:31:01 GMT
I do think some discrepancies in appearances are based on screenshots and videos being from different builds. By looking at Minrathous and the floating castle in the gameplay reveal trailer, and the release date trailer, there is enough differences in details that it makes it clear the gameplay section was taken from an older build of the game. The same could've happened for many screenshots taken for the GI coverage, and all the previews that came right out the gameplay reveal.
The same goes for the reveal trailer, which seems to have been created from scratch and with plot details that don't match what actually happens in game, where character like Davrin, Taash and Emmrich looked quite different.
Taash is the one that is most hard to pin down before her face in post-reveal trailer appearances are all taken in bad lighting or weird angles. From what the devs said, her appearance in the deluxe edition and bonus armor is the most up to date, but I hope the screenshots they're going to show on Tuesday are going to give a better view of her.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 27, 2024 8:53:40 GMT
I do think some discrepancies in appearances are based on screenshots and videos being from different builds. By looking at Minrathous and the floating castle in the gameplay reveal trailer, and the release date trailer, there is enough differences in details that it makes it clear the gameplay section was taken from an older build of the game. The same could've happened for many screenshots taken for the GI coverage, and all the previews that came right out the gameplay reveal. The same goes for the reveal trailer, which seems to have been created from scratch and with plot details that don't match what actually happens in game, where character like Davrin, Taash and Emmrich looked quite different. Taash is the one that is most hard to pin down before her face in post-reveal trailer appearances are all taken in bad lighting or weird angles. From what the devs said, her appearance in the deluxe edition and bonus armor is the most up to date, but I hope the screenshots they're going to show on Tuesday are going to give a better view of her. Good point. I know characters in past trailers looked super different from their in-game models, but those were usually cgi so it makes sense. I just have to remember this game went through a lot of changes and wait for the final release to get a real look at everyone.
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Post by jennica on Aug 27, 2024 9:05:11 GMT
The same goes for the reveal trailer, which seems to have been created from scratch and with plot details that don't match what actually happens in game, where character like Davrin, Taash and Emmrich looked quite different. Yeah, in the announcement trailer it says that it's game engine footage, but not that it's in game footage.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 27, 2024 16:25:32 GMT
I do think some discrepancies in appearances are based on screenshots and videos being from different builds. Or even settings. DLSS and FRS are known to make still images blurry.
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Post by Syv on Aug 27, 2024 18:52:08 GMT
New size of Bellara. Mhh. Always have to be honest, she looks fine here. Is it because of the lightening or is it an update, a pic from a more recent build.
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Post by MeadKnight on Aug 28, 2024 18:03:13 GMT
Bellara concept art from the art book!
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 28, 2024 18:56:41 GMT
Ah, so the book and map on the table in the picture of the companions in the Lighthouse do belong to her. Interesting.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 28, 2024 22:54:48 GMT
Bellara concept art from the art book! The bottom central picture reminds me of Nenio, ha.
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Post by MeadKnight on Aug 31, 2024 13:59:51 GMT
We learned some new info regarding Bellara in the Q&A yesterday. Epler said that his two favorite interactions within the party are with Bellara and Lucanis and Bellara and Neve.
He said the first two, despite their radically different upbringing, find a lot of things they have in common and become friends. Family is both very important to them. Also, they take it upon themselves to be the party's cooks.
Apparently, Bellara loves stories of all kind and as such gets newsletters from Tevinter where she heard about the escapades of the detective Neve Gallus. The two of them develop a sisterly bond throughout the game.
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Post by jennica on Aug 31, 2024 14:47:08 GMT
According to John Epler, originally Bellara was intended to be 28-29, but as her personality evolved he figured she's somewhere around 31, 32. Source
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 31, 2024 17:32:55 GMT
This all sounds good, Bellara gets on well with the two other companions I am most interested in and likely to romance. Alternatively, we can all be good friends. As for her age, it is a pity they aged her up as previously my Rook was around the same age at 28-29. Still nothing wrong with her being a (slightly) older woman but her enthusiasm made me think she was younger.
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Post by jennica on Aug 31, 2024 17:53:16 GMT
He said the first two, despite their radically different upbringing, find a lot of things they have in common and become friends. Family is both very important to them. Also, they take it upon themselves to be the party's cooks. I thought i already decided for my first playthrough to play as an elf and bring Davrin and Bellara with me for the most part, but i'm curious about the friendship between Bellara and Lucanis, because they seem to be such different characters. So i think this two will be with me for the most part. I might even play as Crow.
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Post by MeadKnight on Aug 31, 2024 21:02:26 GMT
Her age works out perfectly for me was I was planning on making my Rook around 33.
The more I learn about Bellara the more I think she'll be my first LI. I think she will be a nice contrast to how I'm imagining my Rook to be.
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Post by merane on Sept 20, 2024 17:28:26 GMT
This interview with John Eppler gives some little details about Bellara although other topics are discussed.
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- how he came to write Bellara,
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Post by ellanathehamster on Sept 25, 2024 17:53:36 GMT
Spoiler about her past relationship: She was involved with Irelin, but broke up before DAV events. Based on this note from Bellara:
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Post by MeadKnight on Sept 25, 2024 17:56:07 GMT
Spoiler about her past relationship: She was involved with Irelin, but broke up before DAV events. Based on this note from Bellara: Now this is interesting. I need to know all the juicy details now.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Sept 25, 2024 18:09:04 GMT
From dialogues I've seen with Bellara so far, I can't help being annoyed by her. I do hope it changes as I get to know her and maybe in context it's not so bad... But her cheerful lines in dark situations (e.g. conversations with Lucanis and Neve) is so out of place
"Um, it's sorta kinda not so bad, I guess". Wtf girllll
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Post by ellanathehamster on Sept 25, 2024 18:36:44 GMT
Ok, I rewatched the cutscenes and can explain my annoyance with her better. Spoilers for in-game lines she says Her intro scene: it rubs me the wrong way how child-like she is at the very beginning. Her high voice, "ohhh, people!", her mannerism. Thankfully, it isn't always like this (from bit's I've seen).
Her lines whe Lucanis and co discuss his possession and possible death: "They are the same things. Mostly. Kind of." When Spite attempts to posses Lucanis and hurts him: Neve: "He (Spite) can just take you over. Make you do as he wants." Bellara: "It's you know. Not great. But kind of good news? In a way?" What the hell, girl, loool. What's good about it? xD
He casual, of-handed reaction to being attacked by blighted ogre and learning her gods are evil and want to destroy the world:"Well, wasn't expecting this today. Just one of those days."
And it's not like VA does a bad job. PIt's the writing that's bugs me so far It is a contrast with other companions
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Post by colfoley on Sept 25, 2024 18:40:54 GMT
Ok, I rewatched the cutscenes and can explain my annoyance with her better. Spoilers for in-game lines she says Her intro scene: it rubs me the wrong way how child-like she is at the very beginning. Her high voice, "ohhh, people!", her mannerism. Thankfully, it isn't always like this (from bit's I've seen).
Her lines whe Lucanis and co discuss his possession and possible death: "They are the same things. Mostly. Kind of." When Spite attempts to posses Lucanis and hurts him: Neve: "He (Spite) can just take you over. Make you do as he wants." Bellara: "It's you know. Not great. But kind of good news? In a way?" What the hell, girl, loool. What's good about it? xD
He casual, of-handed reaction to being attacked by blighted ogre and learning her gods are evil and want to destroy the world:"Well, wasn't expecting this today. Just one of those days."
And it's not like VA does a bad job. PIt's the writing that's bugs me so far It is a contrast with other companions Those lines were awesome and got a lol out of me. I know people who react like that. Right now all of this has just confirmed my likely first romance for Rook.
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Post by roselavellan on Sept 25, 2024 19:03:14 GMT
I'm not really into cute myself, and her voice sets my teeth on edge. She's a bit like Merrill, cute, smart but scattered. I rarely took Merrill with me and it looks like Bellara will get the same treatment, or as much as I can get away with anyway.
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Post by MeadKnight on Sept 25, 2024 19:19:10 GMT
I can see where people are coming from with their annoyance, but as someone who also has ADHD it's nice to see a character I can relate to. (I also know I might come off as annoying to some people lol)
To me, she comes off as someone who is very passionate about her field of interest and might not be the best at social interactions. She also seems to deflect her discomfort with humor, which might not always land lol. I am very interested in discovering her past, which does not seem to be a happy one, and seeing how she managed to still be relatively well adjusted.
We do see moments where her mask slips and we see a more nuanced reaction from her, ex. calling a Templar a shemlen dog in V&V or coming across Jahel in D'Meta's Crossing. Idk, at least to me there seems to be more to her than meets the eye.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 25, 2024 20:03:19 GMT
I wish there was less qualifying language inserted into her dialogue, it sounds very modern, but otherwise I haven't had much issue with her. She doesn't strike me as one of my favorites, either, so mostly I'm in wait-and-see mode.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 25, 2024 20:21:55 GMT
Ok, I rewatched the cutscenes and can explain my annoyance with her better. Spoilers for in-game lines she says Her intro scene: it rubs me the wrong way how child-like she is at the very beginning. Her high voice, "ohhh, people!", her mannerism. Thankfully, it isn't always like this (from bit's I've seen).
Her lines whe Lucanis and co discuss his possession and possible death: "They are the same things. Mostly. Kind of." When Spite attempts to posses Lucanis and hurts him: Neve: "He (Spite) can just take you over. Make you do as he wants." Bellara: "It's you know. Not great. But kind of good news? In a way?" What the hell, girl, loool. What's good about it? xD
He casual, of-handed reaction to being attacked by blighted ogre and learning her gods are evil and want to destroy the world:"Well, wasn't expecting this today. Just one of those days."
And it's not like VA does a bad job. PIt's the writing that's bugs me so far It is a contrast with other companions I think what Bellara meant by "it's kind of good news" is that actually Lucanis appears to be resistant enough that Spite doesn't take over - he just gets a nosebleed.
But yeah, anyway, I don't have that many problems with Bellara so far, because... I know quite a few of such people (I live in a poor region of a place that's been through a lot, even recently), and this is their way of coping with the world. You can hear that when Harding/Neve and Bellara are chatting on our way to the ancient elvhen armory and being like (I paraphrase) "Oh, it's not every day you hear that three of your gods are trying to destroy the world. Kinda a bummer!"
That's not being upbeat, that's just sarcastic/comedic understatement - like the Brits calling things like WWII "a bit of a bother".
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Post by smilesja on Sept 25, 2024 20:39:47 GMT
From dialogues I've seen with Bellara so far, I can't help being annoyed by her. I do hope it changes as I get to know her and maybe in context it's not so bad... But her cheerful lines in dark situations (e.g. conversations with Lucanis and Neve) is so out of place "Um, it's sorta kinda not so bad, I guess". Wtf girllll Hah! That's pretty funny lol.
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Post by fairdragon on Sept 26, 2024 10:51:40 GMT
I can see where people are coming from with their annoyance, but as someone who also has ADHD it's nice to see a character I can relate to. (I also know I might come off as annoying to some people lol)
To me, she comes off as someone who is very passionate about her field of interest and might not be the best at social interactions. She also seems to deflect her discomfort with humor, which might not always land lol. I am very interested in discovering her past, which does not seem to be a happy one, and seeing how she managed to still be relatively well adjusted.
We do see moments where her mask slips and we see a more nuanced reaction from her, ex. calling a Templar a shemlen dog in V&V or coming across Jahel in D'Meta's Crossing. Idk, at least to me there seems to be more to her than meets the eye. Thank you for charing this. Now i can see her in a different light. This helps a great deal, because she is one of the companions i see as potential romance option.
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