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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Jul 24, 2024 15:48:05 GMT
All we need is her to do a detective monologue and we’re set! Laughing at my brain misreading your post. For some reason, I read monologue as monocle. As a fashion accessory, I think it would suit her just fine.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 24, 2024 15:50:45 GMT
All we need is her to do a detective monologue and we’re set! Laughing at my brain misreading your post. For some reason, I read monologue as monocle. As a fashion accessory, I think it would suit her just fine. She needs a pipe and smoke in the rain while monologuing as well. XD
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 24, 2024 16:41:59 GMT
A woman of the people, one with the masses. The mage you know. A private eye in the public eye. Free ice cones all summer long for the oppressed. Vote now: Neve for President! 🙌 I like her more and more. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/KGsHESiZGZU0pPuHuhQr.png) All we need is her to do a detective monologue and we’re set! Neve: When you sit at home, comfortably folded up in a chair beside a fire, have you ever thought... what goes on outside there? Heh, probably not. *blows out smoke ring* You pick up a book and read about demons and blood sacrifice, getting a vicarious kick from people and events that never happened. Eh, you're doing it now--getting ready to fill in a normal life with the details of someone else's experiences. Fun, isn't it? You read about life in the shadows, thinking about how maybe you'd like it to happen to you, least how you'd like to read it. Even the ancient magisters did it, spiced their life with action and watched slaves rip each other limb from limb, reveling in the sight of blood and terror. They screamed for joy and slapped each other on the back with murderous claws, and cheered when the kill was made. Oho, it was great to watch alright; life through a keyhole. Day after day goes by and nothing like that ever happens to you, so you think that it's all in books and exaggerated tavern tales, not in reality at all and that's that. Still a good story, though. Tomorrow night you'll find another book, another tale, forgetting what was in the last and living only in your imagination. But remember this: there are things, happening out there. And I've seen them.
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Post by smilesja on Jul 24, 2024 20:14:15 GMT
All we need is her to do a detective monologue and we’re set! Neve: When you sit at home, comfortably folded up in a chair beside a fire, have you ever thought... what goes on outside there? Heh, probably not. *blows out smoke ring* You pick up a book and read about demons and blood sacrifice, getting a vicarious kick from people and events that never happened. Eh, you're doing it now--getting ready to fill in a normal life with the details of someone else's experiences. Fun, isn't it? You read about life in the shadows, thinking about how maybe you'd like it to happen to you, least how you'd like to read it. Even the ancient magisters did it, spiced their life with action and watched slaves rip each other limb from limb, reveling in the sight of blood and terror. They screamed for joy and slapped each other on the back with murderous claws, and cheered when the kill was made. Oho, it was great to watch alright; life through a keyhole. Day after day goes by and nothing like that ever happens to you, so you think that it's all in books and exaggerated tavern tales, not in reality at all and that's that. Still a good story, though. Tomorrow night you'll find another book, another tale, forgetting what was in the last and living only in your imagination. But remember this: there are things, happening out there. And I've seen them.
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Post by theascendent on Jul 24, 2024 22:43:03 GMT
Neve is really selling me on a Shadow Dragon Rook, just to get more content with her. I just worry, that all her adventures from the comics and the novels will just be vaguely alluded to or minor mentions in party banter, rather than be important demonstrations of the kind of person she is. We all know how well the DA games make use of the other additions to the franchise in how they characterise companions after all.
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Post by fylimar on Jul 25, 2024 9:34:17 GMT
She sounds pretty interesting and the detective background is really cool.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 27, 2024 9:00:09 GMT
Quotes from the Schmooples page of the panel: - Neve is from Minrathas - want to show rebellious side of Tevinter - “cynical detective with a heart of gold” Sounds good to me. I think we are going to be good friends and she has just moved up to position of female character I am likely to romance first. Still in competition with Lucanis for overall number one spot.
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Post by fistoffiori on Jul 28, 2024 7:07:16 GMT
Neve is really selling me on a Shadow Dragon Rook, just to get more content with her. I just worry, that all her adventures from the comics and the novels will just be vaguely alluded to or minor mentions in party banter, rather than be important demonstrations of the kind of person she is. We all know how well the DA games make use of the other additions to the franchise in how they characterise companions after all. Yeah, I liked how Inquisition brought in a couple of plot threads from Asunder - Cole and Rhys remembering him, and Asunder also ties in with Cassandra's Seeker quest where it's originally revealed in this book that the Rite of Tranquility can be reversed! Hope it's the same with other book/comic characters - Hopefully we get to see a game version of Audric in Emmrich's (or Nevarra's) questline and Zach Mendez has already said of Lucanis' questline: Mendez drew inspiration from his relationship with his brother for his performance so I'm assuming Illario, a cousin of Lucanis, will be turning up.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 28, 2024 8:33:25 GMT
I just worry, that all her adventures from the comics and the novels will just be vaguely alluded to or minor mentions in party banter, rather than be important demonstrations of the kind of person she is. That is where I see playing as a Shadow Dragon Rook is an advantage as I can assume they are more likely to have heard of Neve's exploits before from other members of the faction, even if they never actually met, so I can legitimately draw off my meta knowledge. By contrast, whilst Varric apparently knew of Neve, even though I was not aware he had ever been to Minrathous before the Missing (I assume it must be through his dwarven Merchants Guild contacts in the north), I find it hard to imagine how any of the other Rooks would have prior knowledge. I suppose Hollix (a Lord of Fortune) may have heard of Neve during their time in Minrathous and then passed the information on during conversations back at base and the Crows may have a dossier on her but nothing as detailed as I know from her story in Tevinter Nights or that is likely to be in her description in game when they are first introduced. This is how I treat details I have acquired from associated media. I think how my PC might conceivably be aware of the things I know. An example of this would be what Celene did to the elven rebels in Halamshiral. This was alluded to in Wicked Eyes but not the full picture. I decided my Lavellan would have made it his business to know and that if his clan had heard about the Conclave at Haven, likely they would have heard about the burning of the elves in Halamshiral as well. Hence him wanting justice for the elves from the Empress who ordered their destruction. Celene did not survive in that run through.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 28, 2024 14:08:57 GMT
I just worry, that all her adventures from the comics and the novels will just be vaguely alluded to or minor mentions in party banter, rather than be important demonstrations of the kind of person she is. That is where I see playing as a Shadow Dragon Rook is an advantage as I can assume they are more likely to have heard of Neve's exploits before from other members of the faction, even if they never actually met, so I can legitimately draw off my meta knowledge. By contrast, whilst Varric apparently knew of Neve, even though I was not aware he had ever been to Minrathous before the Missing (I assume it must be through his dwarven Merchants Guild contacts in the north), I find it hard to imagine how any of the other Rooks would have prior knowledge. I suppose Hollix (a Lord of Fortune) may have heard of Neve during their time in Minrathous and then passed the information on during conversations back at base and the Crows may have a dossier on her but nothing as detailed as I know from her story in Tevinter Nights or that is likely to be in her description in game when they are first introduced. This is how I treat details I have acquired from associated media. I think how my PC might conceivably be aware of the things I know. An example of this would be what Celene did to the elven rebels in Halamshiral. This was alluded to in Wicked Eyes but not the full picture. I decided my Lavellan would have made it his business to know and that if his clan had heard about the Conclave at Haven, likely they would have heard about the burning of the elves in Halamshiral as well. Hence him wanting justice for the elves from the Empress who ordered their destruction. Celene did not survive in that run through. Yeah I'll probably be playing sa everythin geventually Shadow Dragon included. I mus tdami tRook looked kin dof cool in tha tpurple cape in the demo.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 28, 2024 14:49:53 GMT
Yeah I'll probably be playing sa everythin geventually Shadow Dragon included. I mus tdami tRook looked kin dof cool in tha tpurple cape in the demo. I'm rather fond of purple as a colour and it will offset my Rook's blond hair nicely, so I'm rather glad they opted for that as the official colour of the Veilguard (I'm assuming it is the same for all Rooks) even if it is more associated with royalty than practical wear for running around Thedas. I mean the Inquisition was meant to be high profile with a noticeable uniform, even though we didn't necessarily wear it but back in the 2020 trailer it said we were someone "they would never seen coming". Well, wearing an obvious purple uniform with a team badge does rather give us away. It still seems strange we have a uniform so early on and I'm curious as to the initial remit for the group, which I assume was simply to do with finding and stopping Solas from destroying the Veil, which in a way Rook did fulfill, as opposed to the later one which is used to recruit the majority our allies, which presumably has more to do with finding and stopping the other gods. I wonder why they called it the Veilguard though. How exactly are we guarding the Veil and why does a Fortune Hunter, an Assassin and a Grey Warden have the necessary expertise in that respect? The mages are more understandable from their general connection with the Fade/Veil but also their own history. Bellara is a Veil Jumper (whatever that name means), Emmrich has expertise in spirits crossing back and forth through the Veil and Neve was raised in Tevinter, so enough said.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 28, 2024 14:55:49 GMT
Yeah I'll probably be playing sa everythin geventually Shadow Dragon included. I mus tdami tRook looked kin dof cool in tha tpurple cape in the demo. I'm rather fond of purple as a colour and it will offset my Rook's blond hair nicely, so I'm rather glad they opted for that as the official colour of the Veilguard (I'm assuming it is the same for all Rooks) even if it is more associated with royalty than practical wear for running around Thedas. I mean the Inquisition was meant to be high profile with a noticeable uniform, even though we didn't necessarily wear it but back in the 2020 trailer it said we were someone "they would never seen coming". Well, wearing an obvious purple uniform with a team badge does rather give us away. It still seems strange we have a uniform so early on and I'm curious as to the initial remit for the group, which I assume was simply to do with finding and stopping Solas from destroying the Veil, which in a way Rook did fulfill, as opposed to the later one which is used to recruit the majority our allies, which presumably has more to do with finding and stopping the other gods. I wonder why they called it the Veilguard though. How exactly are we guarding the Veil and why does a Fortune Hunter, an Assassin and a Grey Warden have the necessary expertise in that respect? The mages are more understandable from their general connection with the Fade/Veil but also their own history. Bellara is a Veil Jumper (whatever that name means), Emmrich has expertise in spirits crossing back and forth through the Veil and Neve was raised in Tevinter, so enough said. I tma ydepen don wha tfaction w ebelon gto a st owha tou ropenin ggea rlooks like but yeah I suspect if I put the Rook I have in mind in it she'd look nice in it as well.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 31, 2024 19:46:15 GMT
the conversation moved to Jessica Clark (True Blood, Pocket Listing) and Shadow Dragons rebel Neve, a cynic with a heart of gold who cares deeply about helping people and never leaves work half-done. She also has ice powers to halt an enemy or take advantage of the environment. “I’d describe her as the working class hero trying to make her hometown better,” Epler commented.
“I love her loyalty,” Clark shared. “I love her dedication. I love how much she loves Docktown and its people and how she really sees a different vision that I’m into, as John said, and then what’s previously been depicted, and she’s really really fighting for those people and she loves those people.” Clark also commented on her experience with the casting and recording process: “Even though [the cast members] were all separate disembodied voices a lot of the time, we really all bonded. I know in a lot of projects they’re like all ‘we love each other,’ but we really do! And it just evolved so organically. There was something magical about it just being our voices in the beginning.”blog.bioware.com/2024/07/31/unveiling-the-veilguard-cast-and-characters-detailed-at-san-diego-comic-con/
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 31, 2024 21:03:45 GMT
the conversation moved to Jessica Clark (True Blood, Pocket Listing) and Shadow Dragons rebel Neve, a cynic with a heart of gold who cares deeply about helping people and never leaves work half-done. She also has ice powers to halt an enemy or take advantage of the environment. “I’d describe her as the working class hero trying to make her hometown better,” Epler commented.
“I love her loyalty,” Clark shared. “I love her dedication. I love how much she loves Docktown and its people and how she really sees a different vision that I’m into, as John said, and then what’s previously been depicted, and she’s really really fighting for those people and she loves those people.” Clark also commented on her experience with the casting and recording process: “Even though [the cast members] were all separate disembodied voices a lot of the time, we really all bonded. I know in a lot of projects they’re like all ‘we love each other,’ but we really do! And it just evolved so organically. There was something magical about it just being our voices in the beginning.” blog.bioware.com/2024/07/31/unveiling-the-veilguard-cast-and-characters-detailed-at-san-diego-comic-con/ Sounds a lo tlike the Mass Effec tcrew tha tworked on the rtilogy. I fi tshows just as ewl in the work then we should be in for a treat.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2024 6:58:57 GMT
“I’d describe her as the working class hero trying to make her hometown better,” Epler commented. Going to be a bit picky here but in Tevinter just being a mage makes you more than working class, unless you started out as a slave. However, if you focus just on those who qualify as full citizens of the Imperium, the Altus are the aristocracy, so upper class (even if they are relatively poor in the scheme of things), and the Soporati non mages are the working class (even if some of them are quite rich and don't do much actual work), whilst the Laetans are the middle class because they automatically have a higher status through someone in the family being a mage. However, I have to admit I'm evaluating it from a U.K. perspective and I understand that the other side of the big pond has a different way of looking at class, which is largely based around money and who has it. Also perhaps I am misunderstanding him because he isn't saying Neve is a "working class hero" because she is from the working class but because she cares about those who are. She may be a Laetans but she chooses to live among the ordinary people of the docks rather than in some fancy estate or hanging out with the elites in the Circle. Anyway, so far so good with the information about her to supplement what I already knew from Tevinter Nights. She sounds like my kind of mage so I think we should get on famously.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 1, 2024 8:43:07 GMT
the conversation moved to Jessica Clark (True Blood, Pocket Listing) and Shadow Dragons rebel Neve, a cynic with a heart of gold who cares deeply about helping people and never leaves work half-done. She also has ice powers to halt an enemy or take advantage of the environment. “I’d describe her as the working class hero trying to make her hometown better,” Epler commented.
“I love her loyalty,” Clark shared. “I love her dedication. I love how much she loves Docktown and its people and how she really sees a different vision that I’m into, as John said, and then what’s previously been depicted, and she’s really really fighting for those people and she loves those people.” Clark also commented on her experience with the casting and recording process: “Even though [the cast members] were all separate disembodied voices a lot of the time, we really all bonded. I know in a lot of projects they’re like all ‘we love each other,’ but we really do! And it just evolved so organically. There was something magical about it just being our voices in the beginning.”blog.bioware.com/2024/07/31/unveiling-the-veilguard-cast-and-characters-detailed-at-san-diego-comic-con/ I love neve at this point. She sound so familiar.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 1, 2024 14:15:40 GMT
“I’d describe her as the working class hero trying to make her hometown better,” Epler commented. Going to be a bit picky here but in Tevinter just being a mage makes you more than working class, unless you started out as a slave. However, if you focus just on those who qualify as full citizens of the Imperium, the Altus are the aristocracy, so upper class (even if they are relatively poor in the scheme of things), and the Soporati non mages are the working class (even if some of them are quite rich and don't do much actual work), whilst the Laetans are the middle class because they automatically have a higher status through someone in the family being a mage. However, I have to admit I'm evaluating it from a U.K. perspective and I understand that the other side of the big pond has a different way of looking at class, which is largely based around money and who has it. Also perhaps I am misunderstanding him because he isn't saying Neve is a "working class hero" because she is from the working class but because she cares about those who are. She may be a Laetans but she chooses to live among the ordinary people of the docks rather than in some fancy estate or hanging out with the elites in the Circle. Anyway, so far so good with the information about her to supplement what I already knew from Tevinter Nights. She sounds like my kind of mage so I think we should get on famously. I usually consider detective working class, or right on the cusp anyway, but I too think Neve might be from an upper class background. It explains the facilitator and the shadow of the magister in her card. She chose to spend time among the working class and essentially work pro bono full time. It could also be an interesting wrinkle if she’s concealing this in some fashion and larping amongst the poor; would be a good basis of conflict for her personal quest, especially one intended to be class conscious.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 1, 2024 14:57:03 GMT
Going to be a bit picky here but in Tevinter just being a mage makes you more than working class, unless you started out as a slave. However, if you focus just on those who qualify as full citizens of the Imperium, the Altus are the aristocracy, so upper class (even if they are relatively poor in the scheme of things), and the Soporati non mages are the working class (even if some of them are quite rich and don't do much actual work), whilst the Laetans are the middle class because they automatically have a higher status through someone in the family being a mage. However, I have to admit I'm evaluating it from a U.K. perspective and I understand that the other side of the big pond has a different way of looking at class, which is largely based around money and who has it. Also perhaps I am misunderstanding him because he isn't saying Neve is a "working class hero" because she is from the working class but because she cares about those who are. She may be a Laetans but she chooses to live among the ordinary people of the docks rather than in some fancy estate or hanging out with the elites in the Circle. Anyway, so far so good with the information about her to supplement what I already knew from Tevinter Nights. She sounds like my kind of mage so I think we should get on famously. I usually consider detective working class, or right on the cusp anyway, but I too think Neve might be from an upper class background. It explains the facilitator and the shadow of the magister in her card. She chose to spend time among the working class and essentially work pro bono full time. It could also be an interesting wrinkle if she’s concealing this in some fashion and larping amongst the poor; would be a good basis of conflict for her personal quest, especially one intended to be class conscious. Well it is said she hasa heart of gold and wants th ebest fo reveryone i fshe can get it. So i twould make sense. She definitel yseems a cool character that I think I'll like as she's definitel ygiving m eLelian avibes in tha tshe rties t othin kabou twha tshe'd doin gand isn't one to rus hhead on into danger without considering options as ew saw in the demo wher she's cautioning Rook on his attempt to stop Solas's ritual due t oth eamoun o fmagical energies flowing in the area.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2024 15:53:28 GMT
I usually consider detective working class, or right on the cusp anyway, but I too think Neve might be from an upper class background. It explains the facilitator and the shadow of the magister in her card. There is a bit in the Streets of Minrathous where she says her family have more Templars than mages, that she is not from an "old family" and did not feel at home in the house of a victim who was. That suggests she is not upper class because that is the Altus and I would be very surprised that one of their families had more mundanes than mages. Also, the fact Neve states she is not from an old family, together with not being accustomed to large mansions flaunting their wealth, suggests a more recent elevation to the Laetans class. Thus, she likely identifies more with her Soporati roots and that is why she is happier in the docks among her "own" people but her family may not approve because they would rather suck up to the elite than hang out with the riff raff, so she may still be something of a black sheep to her relatives. According to World of Thedas often the Laetans are more ruthless in their political scheming than the Altus because they are vicious in their social climbing. Having multiple individuals in the Templars would likely help with this as I am sure there is a fair bit of corruption in their ranks. After all Dorian said how in Tevinter he knows of people who have been made tranquil because they upset the wrong person. No doubt the Templar police force are still the ones to administer this punishment. Also, if you suggest making Erimond tranquil in DAI he objects strongly on the grounds that "I am a Lord, you peasants". Perhaps only Laetans are allowed to be made tranquil. It will be fascinating to learn more about Neve's background. Incidentally, the shadowy figure in her background could well be the Viper, the leader of the Shadow Dragons. I think we may find out they are rather more sinister than Neve is aware of. Also, there were Templars in the Shadow Dragons in the DA Day short story , so her mundane relatives may be mixed up in the faction too and may even be the ones who introduced her to them.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 1, 2024 16:12:33 GMT
I usually consider detective working class, or right on the cusp anyway, but I too think Neve might be from an upper class background. It explains the facilitator and the shadow of the magister in her card. There is a bit in the Streets of Minrathous where she says her family have more Templars than mages, that she is not from an "old family" and did not feel at home in the house of a victim who was. That suggests she is not upper class because that is the Altus and I would be very surprised that one of their families had more mundanes than mages. Also, the fact Neve states she is not from an old family, together with not being accustomed to large mansions flaunting their wealth, suggests a more recent elevation to the Laetans class. Thus, she likely identifies more with her Soporati roots and that is why she is happier in the docks among her "own" people but her family may not approve because they would rather suck up to the elite than hang out with the riff raff, so she may still be something of a black sheep to her relatives. According to World of Thedas often the Laetans are more ruthless in their political scheming than the Altus because they are vicious in their social climbing. Having multiple individuals in the Templars would likely help with this as I am sure there is a fair bit of corruption in their ranks. After all Dorian said how in Tevinter he knows of people who have been made tranquil because they upset the wrong person. No doubt the Templar police force are still the ones to administer this punishment. Also, if you suggest making Erimond tranquil in DAI he objects strongly on the grounds that "I am a Lord, you peasants". Perhaps only Laetans are allowed to be made tranquil. It will be fascinating to learn more about Neve's background. Incidentally, the shadowy figure in her background could well be the Viper, the leader of the Shadow Dragons. I think we may find out they are rather more sinister than Neve is aware of. Also, there were Templars in the Shadow Dragons in the DA Day short story , so her mundane relatives may be mixed up in the faction too and may even be the ones who introduced her to them. That seems very plausible, and Neve coming from a family of social climbers has a lot of narrative potential to it. She’s definitely one of the characters I’m most interested in.
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Post by theratpack55 on Aug 1, 2024 17:12:00 GMT
Also perhaps I am misunderstanding him because he isn't saying Neve is a "working class hero" because she is from the working class but because she cares about those who are. She may be a Laetans but she chooses to live among the ordinary people of the docks rather than in some fancy estate or hanging out with the elites in the Circle. Anyway, so far so good with the information about her to supplement what I already knew from Tevinter Nights. She sounds like my kind of mage so I think we should get on famously. Will my Rook be forced to care about the plebs? Is this what the removal of a noble background and the forcing of obligatory companions foreshadows? Ugh, I don't want her or any other bleeding heart on my team. At this point I might just follow whatever Solas tells me to do... /j, but honestly, please give me some morally grey companions, it's the end of the world (again), there will be people who want to fight because that's what's best for themselves in this. I don't want a care bear team, I want conflict.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 1, 2024 17:57:30 GMT
Also perhaps I am misunderstanding him because he isn't saying Neve is a "working class hero" because she is from the working class but because she cares about those who are. She may be a Laetans but she chooses to live among the ordinary people of the docks rather than in some fancy estate or hanging out with the elites in the Circle. Anyway, so far so good with the information about her to supplement what I already knew from Tevinter Nights. She sounds like my kind of mage so I think we should get on famously. Will my Rook be forced to care about the plebs? Is this what the removal of a noble background and the forcing of obligatory companions foreshadows? Ugh, I don't want her or any other bleeding heart on my team. At this point I might just follow whatever Solas tells me to do... /j, but honestly, please give me some morally grey companions, it's the end of the world (again), there will be people who want to fight because that's what's best for themselves in this. I don't want a care bear team, I want conflict. Than you should look out for Lucanis, Bellara and Taash.
Maybe bring conflict by taking one companion that want to help people and one that don't. I musst think of Morrigan and Alistair.
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Post by theratpack55 on Aug 1, 2024 18:14:13 GMT
Will my Rook be forced to care about the plebs? Is this what the removal of a noble background and the forcing of obligatory companions foreshadows? Ugh, I don't want her or any other bleeding heart on my team. At this point I might just follow whatever Solas tells me to do... /j, but honestly, please give me some morally grey companions, it's the end of the world (again), there will be people who want to fight because that's what's best for themselves in this. I don't want a care bear team, I want conflict. Than you should look out for Lucanis, Bellara and Taash.
Maybe bring conflict by taking one companion that want to help people and one that don't. I musst think of Morrigan and Alistair.
I do hope that's how it will all play out, but the found family theme has me worried. Please let the companions clash, and let me support one over the other because I actually agree with their viewpoint, not just because "we all have to work together".
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 1, 2024 18:28:29 GMT
I do hope that's how it will all play out, but the found family theme has me worried. Please let the companions clash, and let me support one over the other because I actually agree with their viewpoint, not just because "we all have to work together". I'm sure there can be antagonism between them and it will be up to you whether you smooth things over or fan the flames. I remember in ME2 the conflict between Miranda and Jack. I told them both to cool it but a friend of mine sided with Jack and Miranda slammed the door on them and barely spoke to them again. Yet ultimately everyone had to keep working together for the mission to be successful. They also said how your decisions can affect your relationship with them. In the game play video you have to decide between Harding and Neve as to who will accompany you. In the video Rook chose Harding and got a "Great approval" from her. Whilst I don't think you got negative approval from Neve for this, it is easy enough to see how it could play out if you keep choosing Harding and ignoring Neve. To be honest though, after having to endure Fenris and Anders constantly bickering with one another in DA2 and being downright cruel towards Merrill at one point, I would prefer the team behaved like professional adults most of the time, even if they can't be friends. At least with those two we didn't all live together in the same house. I hardly ever used Sera because I hated her juvenile attitude and it annoyed me intensely that the only way gain her friendship was to indulge her with her stupid pranks. There was also a hint in one of the quotes, from Corinne I think, how a decision of yours could have heartbreaking consequences for two of your companions. So I don't think it is all going to be sunshine and roses for the team.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 1, 2024 18:39:56 GMT
Will my Rook be forced to care about the plebs? Is this what the removal of a noble background and the forcing of obligatory companions foreshadows? Ugh, I don't want her or any other bleeding heart on my team. At this point I might just follow whatever Solas tells me to do... /j, but honestly, please give me some morally grey companions, it's the end of the world (again), there will be people who want to fight because that's what's best for themselves in this. I don't want a care bear team, I want conflict. Than you should look out for Lucanis, Bellara and Taash.
Maybe bring conflict by taking one companion that want to help people and one that don't. I musst think of Morrigan and Alistair.
Wait, where was it said Bellara and Taash are morally grey?
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