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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 19:44:52 GMT
GameInformer: ""But beyond that, each faction has a [companion] as well as [people we're calling agents, ancillarily] who exist as the faces of these factions. We didn't want to just say, 'Here's the Grey Wardens, go deal with them.' We wanted characters within that faction who are sympathetic, who you can see and become the face of the faction, so that even if there are moments where the faction as a whole may be on the outs with you, these characters are still with you; they've still got your back."
Ok Grey Warden has to be the First Warden Shadow Dragons Calpernia? Veil Jumpers: Strife? Mourn Watch: New Character Lord of Fortune: New Character Antivian Crows: Caterina Dellamorte Inquisition: Inquisitor or if not Charter Extra Factions: Lucerni: Dorian and or Maevaris Venatori (enemy faction): Felicia Erimon
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 25, 2024 19:50:59 GMT
What I also liked is this: Each faction has unique casual wear, which is worn in specific cutscenes when the character isn't donning armor, and three unique traits. The Lords of Fortune, for example, gain additional reputation with this particular faction, have increased damage versus mercenaries, and perform takedowns on enemies with slightly less effort. Veilguard game director Corinne Busche says this faction selection, which ties into your character's backstory, determines who your Rook was before, how they met Varric, why they travel with Varric instead of their faction, and more.
I was thinking about that only today. It is cool to think that your casual wear will actually differ according to your faction.
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Post by Little Bengel on Jun 25, 2024 19:52:13 GMT
That's probably how we'll be seeing the vast majority of the characters in Tevinter Nights and the other short stories.
Evka and Antoine stand out as examples for the Wardens, as do Andarateia and Viago for the Crows.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 19:55:19 GMT
Evka and Antoine stand out as examples for the Wardens, as do Andarateia and Viago for the Crows. Ok but why not use the actual leaders instead of those?
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Post by colfoley on Jun 25, 2024 19:55:56 GMT
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 25, 2024 19:56:03 GMT
Mourn Watch: New Character Lord of Fortune: New Character They could both be people who have already featured in Tevinter Nights. Mourn Watch: Myrna - she seemed to get on particularly well with Emmrich; or Audric - a different sort of undead helper. Lords of Fortune: Bharv or Mateo (outside chance it could be Isabella) - It didn't strike me they had a leader/face of the organisation as such.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 20:01:34 GMT
By the way i think that we hear 3 of those agents / faces in the Thedas Calls teaser plus Elgar'nan at the end.
Antivian crows: Caterina (but the female voice doesn´t sound that old maybe someone else) Lord of Fortune: Male voice could be anyone Grey Wardens: First Warden
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Post by Little Bengel on Jun 25, 2024 20:13:51 GMT
Evka and Antoine stand out as examples for the Wardens, as do Andarateia and Viago for the Crows. Ok but why not use the actual leaders instead of those? Because I assume that Rook will be more likely to involve themselves with regular members first and foremost before any leadership figures, due to the likely nature of their operations and position (especially in contrast to someone like, say, the Inquisitor).
Even then, in some cases, these characters can also be the leaders. Teia and Viago? They're Talons, just like Caterina, so they're part of the Crows' leadership as well.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 25, 2024 20:15:00 GMT
This face of the organisation could relate to the training for your specialism. Each one is tied to a faction. So, either you would have to ask the relevant companion or perhaps go to the face of the organisation and ask for them to set up the training for you:
Spell Blade = Crows Evoker = Shadow Dragons Death Caller = Mourn Watch
Champion = Grey Wardens Reaper = Mourn Watch Slayer = Lords of Fortune
Duelist = Crows Saboteur = Lords of Fortune Veil Ranger = Veil Jumpers
This is what has been suggested to me. Otherwise it would mean you could only be the specialism if you belonged to that faction, which would be very limiting.
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Post by theascendent on Jun 25, 2024 20:15:21 GMT
So the three bonuses per faction seem to be related to reputation, which probably affects the level of support you gain from the faction, extra damage to certain enemy types, usefulness depending on how common certain enemies are and a special gameplay feature that any class can use.
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Post by cyanwool on Jun 25, 2024 20:21:00 GMT
I wonder if they will play the role of advisors in this game? But there's probably too many characters to give all of them storylines like in Inquisition
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 20:21:21 GMT
Because I assume that Rook will be more likely to involve themselves with regular members first and foremost before any leadership figures, due to the likely nature of their operations and position (especially in contrast to someone like, say, the Inquisitor).
Even then, in some cases, these characters can also be the leaders. Teia and Viago? They're Talons, just like Caterina, so they're part of the Crows' leadership as well.
You make good points for your view but i personal don´t believe in it because i doubt that besides the actual leaders and the companions there could be room for a third NPC group because of budget.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 20:22:51 GMT
I wonder if they will play the role of advisors in this game? But there's probably too many characters to give all of them storylines like in Inquisition Those agents are important NPCs in Veilguard but if a very likely much lesser screentime than our 7 companions.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 25, 2024 20:30:36 GMT
Antivian crows: Caterina (but the female voice doesn´t sound that old maybe someone) It sounded old enough to be Caterina for me. She definitely didn't sound like Teia does in my head (too old). Lord of Fortune: Male voice could be anyone Could be either of the two I suggested though. Possibly Bharv since he is a dwarf and the voice is sort of hoarse and gravelly (I'm leaning into stereotypes I know)
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 20:42:45 GMT
It sounded old enough to be Caterina for me. She definitely didn't sound like Teia does in my head (too old). "By 9:44-9:45 Dragon, Caterina is described as well in her seventies with silver-white hair." Sorry this voice actress sounds too young to be Caterina. This one of the other hand could be possible. Yeah i could see a dwarf with that voice.
By the way what about the Archon Radonis and the Quanari Antaam (Sten/ Arishok) are those also (minor) factions?
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 25, 2024 20:53:56 GMT
"By 9:44-9:45 Dragon, Caterina is described as well in her seventies with silver-white hair." Without revealing too much personal information, I'm fairly advanced in years but I don't sound as old as the person in that clip. She also had the gravitas to be Caterina. By the way what about the Archon Radonis and the Quanari Antaam (Sten/ Arishok) are those also (minor) factions? There has been no mention of either the Magisterium or the Qun/Antaam in the latest material or in the 2023 promo trailer for that matter. The Antaam were definitely presenting as the enemy in both Tevinter Nights and the short story set in Treviso, so it is more likely we will be asked to assist against them. If the Qun are involved at all then our contact is likely to be Gatt because in Tevinter Nights he was in contact with Varric. As for Archon Radonis, I wonder what is up with the Tevinter leadership. They were very ineffectual against the Antaam on the east side of Tevinter. Back in 9:11 Dragon the Qun tried a surprise attack and it never got beyond Qarinus (Ventus). The Sicarri have been watching the Qun for years and yet not only were they totally caught out by the attack on Ventus but the Antaam seemed to sweep down the eastern seaboard virtually unopposed. I'm guessing that is why we're working with the Shadow Dragons because the Magisterium are in a complete shambles. I suppose Radonis could be the Viper but I doubt it.
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Post by Little Bengel on Jun 25, 2024 21:16:35 GMT
Because I assume that Rook will be more likely to involve themselves with regular members first and foremost before any leadership figures, due to the likely nature of their operations and position (especially in contrast to someone like, say, the Inquisitor).
Even then, in some cases, these characters can also be the leaders. Teia and Viago? They're Talons, just like Caterina, so they're part of the Crows' leadership as well.
You make good points for your view but i personal don´t believe in it because i doubt that besides the actual leaders and the companions there could be room for a third NPC group because of budget. You assume they will be as omnipresent through the whole game's content as the companions themselves, which I (rather strongly) doubt is the case.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 25, 2024 21:23:47 GMT
You assume they will be as omnipresent through the whole game's content as the companions themselves, which I (rather strongly) doubt is the case. No of course not. I already wrote this one hour ago aka the next post after my response to you: "Those agents are important NPCs in Veilguard but with a very likely much lesser screentime than our 7 companions."
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jun 25, 2024 21:35:09 GMT
Ok but why not use the actual leaders instead of those? Because I assume that Rook will be more likely to involve themselves with regular members first and foremost before any leadership figures, due to the likely nature of their operations and position (especially in contrast to someone like, say, the Inquisitor).
Even then, in some cases, these characters can also be the leaders. Teia and Viago? They're Talons, just like Caterina, so they're part of the Crows' leadership as well.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 25, 2024 23:19:04 GMT
GameInformer: ""But beyond that, each faction has a [companion] as well as [people we're calling agents, ancillarily] who exist as the faces of these factions. We didn't want to just say, 'Here's the Grey Wardens, go deal with them.' We wanted characters within that faction who are sympathetic, who you can see and become the face of the faction, so that even if there are moments where the faction as a whole may be on the outs with you, these characters are still with you; they've still got your back."
Ok Grey Warden has to be the First Warden Shadow Dragons Calpernia? Veil Jumpers: Strife? Mourn Watch: New Character Lord of Fortune: New Character Antivian Crows: Caterina Dellamorte Inquisition: Inquisitor or if not Charter Extra Factions: Lucerni: Dorian and or Maevaris Venatori (enemy faction): Felicia Erimon Mourn Watch means Grand Necropolis, so I'm expecting to finally meet Vestalus Pantaghast (Cassandra's uncle) or his replacement since he's been the prelate (aka leader) of the Grand Necropolis since 9:12 if my memory doesn't fail me.
Lord of Fortune, either Isabela or one of the Lord of Fortune in Tevinter Nights, or all of these.
Shadow Dragon leader is called the Viper (could be Calpernia, they told me in 2017 she was going to come back!!!).
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Jun 25, 2024 23:22:02 GMT
I was also thinking Calpernia and Caterina... Zevran could also be back, although I don't know if in this role, necessarily. Same with Fenris (I could see him fighting slavers in Tevinter - the mysterious SD leader) and Isabela. Dorian, Myrna, Sidony... who else?
We may also get some cameos via our Specialization trainers, a la Inquisition.
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Post by Kendaric on Jun 26, 2024 0:09:43 GMT
I was also thinking Calpernia and Caterina... Zevran could also be back, although I don't know if in this role, necessarily. Same with Fenris (I could see him fighting slavers in Tevinter - the mysterious SD leader) and Isabela. Dorian, Myrna, Sidony... who else? Calpernia and Zevran are unlikely to appear since they could be dead depending on player actions in previous games. I'd be rather annoyed to see them return after I killed them in every playthrough.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jun 26, 2024 0:11:21 GMT
I was also thinking Calpernia and Caterina... Zevran could also be back, although I don't know if in this role, necessarily. Same with Fenris (I could see him fighting slavers in Tevinter - the mysterious SD leader) and Isabela. Dorian, Myrna, Sidony... who else? Last time we heard from Zevran the Crows were still chasing him around trying to kill him. I would find it very funny if he's teamed up with them to fight the Qunari, though, and would find that in character for both the Crows and Zevran himself. There was an epilogue slide in Origins where he took the Crows over, so perhaps we could still see that come to pass in certain world states ... Speaking of trainers, Viuus Anaxas seems like another candidate for Mourn Watch representative. Or maybe we'll actually meet Cassandra's uncle!
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Post by colfoley on Jun 26, 2024 0:55:16 GMT
I was also thinking Calpernia and Caterina... Zevran could also be back, although I don't know if in this role, necessarily. Same with Fenris (I could see him fighting slavers in Tevinter - the mysterious SD leader) and Isabela. Dorian, Myrna, Sidony... who else? Last time we heard from Zevran the Crows were still chasing him around trying to kill him. I would find it very funny if he's teamed up with them to fight the Qunari, though, and would find that in character for both the Crows and Zevran himself. There was an epilogue slide in Origins where he took the Crows over, so perhaps we could still see that come to pass in certain world states ... Speaking of trainers, Viuus Anaxas seems like another candidate for Mourn Watch representative. Or maybe we'll actually meet Cassandra's uncle! the one with the wondering hands?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 26, 2024 0:59:03 GMT
I would prefer they be new characters as opposed to more from the comics and books.
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