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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 21, 2024 14:50:14 GMT
Do you think they will appear?
I really love Loghain. One of my favorite characters in the series.
If you spare him, will he appear later in this game? I sure hope so. I hope there's a sense of continuity and you can customize your choices that you made in Dragon Age Origins to Dragon Age: Inquisition (same as you did when Dragon Age: Inquisition first came out). I love Dragon Age: Inquisition; my favorite game in the series.
Also, glad to be back! The Veilguard has me hyped! I love seeing gameplay of it especially.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 21, 2024 17:25:26 GMT
It is highly unlikely we will see him as they have done away with the Keep and only including major choices from DAI. Any earlier characters from DAO and DA2 will need to be alive and kicking at the end of every play through, no matter what your choices were. At least I'm assuming that is the case. Also, 10 years have passed since Stroud/Alistair/Loghain were active and their absence could be explained by them hearing the Calling, considering it will be 20 years since the Blight and it tends to develop quicker in Wardens that experienced the Blight than those who did not.
As far as characters from DAI are concerned, I assume any appearances are going to be by characters that always survived to the end and you would expect to see in the north of Thedas. Depending on the choices covered in the Keep, anyone else is likely only going to be mentioned in codices or dialogue with companions who were in the Inquisition.
I don't know if you have read Tevinter Nights but Wardens who appeared there, in later short stories and the comic series the Missing are going to appear in game. In fact quite a lot of characters that were introduced in Tevinter Nights are going to feature both as companions and other major encounters.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 21, 2024 17:37:59 GMT
It would be great if he appears in the game.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 21, 2024 17:42:42 GMT
You already made a thread about Loghain. bsn.boards.net/thread/18323/loghain-dragon-age-4Also its already been confirmed that Here Lies the Abyss" choice won´t been used in Veilguard so Hawke, Alistair, Stroud and of course Loghain won´t show up in the game. And that´s a good decision because especially how many players will ever see Loghain again. Also at the time of Veilguard Loghain is 76 i believe so No.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 17:46:38 GMT
You really think his decapitated head would have survived this long?
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Sept 21, 2024 17:50:31 GMT
You really think his decapitated head would have survived this long? I guess you have only read the thread title? The OP already said this about this "If you spare him, will he appear later in this game?"
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 21, 2024 18:07:13 GMT
You really think his decapitated head would have survived this long? I guess you have only read the thread title? The OP already said this about this "If you spare him, will he appear later in this game?" Alistair spared his head from his body, so not exactly sure why OP wants his skull to appear...?
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Post by SofaJockey on Sept 21, 2024 18:08:14 GMT
Good spot. I'll fold it in here. - - - - - My Loghain saved the Inquisitor from 'Blinky'. He might be alive but I'd bet against it.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 21, 2024 21:45:30 GMT
It is highly unlikely we will see him as they have done away with the Keep and only including major choices from DAI. Any earlier characters from DAO and DA2 will need to be alive and kicking at the end of every play through, no matter what your choices were. At least I'm assuming that is the case. Also, 10 years have passed since Stroud/Alistair/Loghain were active and their absence could be explained by them hearing the Calling, considering it will be 20 years since the Blight and it tends to develop quicker in Wardens that experienced the Blight than those who did not. As far as characters from DAI are concerned, I assume any appearances are going to be by characters that always survived to the end and you would expect to see in the north of Thedas. Depending on the choices covered in the Keep, anyone else is likely only going to be mentioned in codices or dialogue with companions who were in the Inquisition. I don't know if you have read Tevinter Nights but Wardens who appeared there, in later short stories and the comic series the Missing are going to appear in game. In fact quite a lot of characters that were introduced in Tevinter Nights are going to feature both as companions and other major encounters. Tevinter... Nights?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 21, 2024 22:03:59 GMT
Good spot. I'll fold it in here. - - - - - My Loghain saved the Inquisitor from 'Blinky'. He might be alive but I'd bet against it. Awesome! Thanks!
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 21, 2024 22:46:03 GMT
Orlais as a faction just isn’t present enough in Origins for me to find Loghain’s issues particularly compelling. (Not to mention much of it is relegated to dlc, as Gervais mentioned.) But I also find Loghain immensely overrated as a villain, with his voice actor doing a lot of heavy lifting for often smaltzy, melodramatic dialogue.
That said, his line of dialogue with Morrigan, about Kieran, is a stealth favorite from Inquisition. If they wanted to include small potential cameo for wardens, I wouldn’t be opposed. But mostly don’t really care.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 21, 2024 22:57:47 GMT
Orlais as a faction just isn’t present enough in Origins for me to find Loghain’s issues particularly compelling. (Not to mention much of it is relegated to dlc, as Gervais.) But I also find Loghain immensely overrated as a villain, with his voice actor doing a lot of heavy lifting for often smaltzy, melodramatic dialogue. That said, his line of dialogue with Morrigan, about Kieran, is a stealth favorite from Inquisition. If they wanted to include small potential cameo for wardens, I wouldn’t be opposed. But mostly don’t really care. I completely understand!
Still, I like Loghain as a villain and his backstory was always intriguing. And yes, Simon Templeton was a good VA for the character. I think that your concerns and criticisms of the character are well-founded; I think that BioWare has a problem with their villains in general. Like, I liked the Arashok over Meredith in DA2, for example. And Solas is a better villain over the Darkspawn villain in DA:I. Just like Loghain is better than the actual arch-demon in Dragon Age Origins.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 22, 2024 12:44:35 GMT
A collection of short stories they published back in spring 2020, presumably because at the time they thought they weren't far off release. In one of their interviews they have said that the companions that featured in TN were already planned to be included in the game, which presumably accounts for why they showcased them as they did. So, Neve and Lucanis had short stories dedicated to them and Emmrich featured in another (and Manfred) but not as the protagonist. Also, characters that later formed the Veil Jumpers, although not Bellara. The Lords of Fortune were also introduced as a faction as they featured in several of the stories but, again, not Taash specifically. Davrin didn't have a story but the Grey Warden on the cover was probably meant to be him and we were introduced to other Grey Wardens that are going to feature in the game.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 23, 2024 11:00:52 GMT
A collection of short stories they published back in spring 2020, presumably because at the time they thought they weren't far off release. In one of their interviews they have said that the companions that featured in TN were already planned to be included in the game, which presumably accounts for why they showcased them as they did. So, Neve and Lucanis had short stories dedicated to them and Emmrich featured in another (and Manfred) but not as the protagonist. Also, characters that later formed the Veil Jumpers, although not Bellara. The Lords of Fortune were also introduced as a faction as they featured in several of the stories but, again, not Taash specifically. Davrin didn't have a story but the Grey Warden on the cover was probably meant to be him and we were introduced to other Grey Wardens that are going to feature in the game. AH
I should also watch the TV series, now that I think of it...
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