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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 6, 2024 0:40:53 GMT
I dont know if anyone else bothered to order the Art of Dtagon Age The Veilguard, but I did...and I just received it from Amazon about two hours ago.
It is still in the shrink wrap but I have very carefully inspected it through the plastic and it looks to be in perfect condition. All pages and corners are crisp and unblemished, as they should be.
I am very interested in digging into it this weekend.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 6, 2024 6:28:05 GMT
Thank you for reminding me to do this! According to Amazon it will be released locally on December 5th. (Also if any fellow Aussies are ordering this: I usually try to buy from local retailers, but the deluxe edition is $149 on Amazon and $273 at Readings, while Dymocks doesn't even have it up, so Jeff Bezzos gets my money this time around.)
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Post by Reznore on Nov 6, 2024 6:51:08 GMT
i saw some pictures, and it was pretty cool. A bit too much because there are concept for Joplin that never happened, and far better than what we got.
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Post by Kyros on Nov 6, 2024 8:51:46 GMT
So from the Joplin era: Harding was always going to be a party member. Imshael was going to be a party member with a human form that they could change their sex (there's more art of their female form). Calpernia was going to be a party member, seems to have been transformed into Neve. Lucanis was originally Tevinter. The Qunari party member started as a male sareebas > male spy > dragon hunter rogue lady (Taash). The Crow companion was a female elf dreamer. Bioware seems to have love the idea of a Dalish-Grey Warden so Darvin was always going to be a thing.
I'm sad about the loss of the Dreamer and Imshael they seemed like really unique ideas for party members.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 6, 2024 9:18:08 GMT
Aw, man. I love the companions we have, but I would have been delighted to pal around with Imshael and Calpernia!
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 6, 2024 10:38:22 GMT
Thank you for reminding me to do this! According to Amazon it will be released locally on December 5th. (Also if any fellow Aussies are ordering this: I usually try to buy from local retailers, but the deluxe edition is $149 on Amazon and $273 at Readings, while Dymocks doesn't even have it up, so Jeff Bezzos gets my money this time around.) Here in the Great White North it is 130.00 for the Deluxe Edition. While the slip case is a nice idea...and I do like a nice lithograph- I dont see those two things being worth the amount to make it double the cost of the book itself. 70.00 CAD after tax is more than enough; personally I think a book like this should be $45.00 for the Standard and $80 for the Deluxe. But just like the games themselves the prices are way over-blown so I try to limit the damage to my wallet as much as possible especially considering the fact that I also spend extra money on the OST when buying it off iTunes. A
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 6, 2024 10:40:18 GMT
So from the Joplin era: Harding was always going to be a party member. Imshael was going to be a party member with a human form that they could change their sex (there's more art of their female form). Calpernia was going to be a party member, seems to have been transformed into Neve. Lucanis was originally Tevinter. The Qunari party member started as a male sareebas > male spy > dragon hunter rogue lady (Taash). The Crow companion was a female elf dreamer. Bioware seems to have love the idea of a Dalish-Grey Warden so Darvin was always going to be a thing. I'm sad about the loss of the Dreamer and Imshael they seemed like really unique ideas for party members. A Friendly Note to All: But please...when discussing the contents of the Art book please tag it with a Spoiler because I have not opened mine yet and there are those who have ordered or are planning to that would prefer not to have anything spoiled for them. Thanks!
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Post by melbella on Nov 7, 2024 1:00:58 GMT
My artbook order is being processed now. I won't look at it until I finish the game at least once.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 7, 2024 9:27:40 GMT
My artbook order is being processed now. I won't look at it until I finish the game at least once. Thats a good idea. I really am trying to avoid videos etc that show content because regardless of the ending I want to experience everything for myself. And obviously the Art book would contai n info on characters and locations. So thats a good plan.
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Post by eldemit on Nov 8, 2024 13:35:30 GMT
Holy shit we were robbed. Joplin sounds so much better than what we got story wise.
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Post by hookntackle on Nov 8, 2024 14:02:30 GMT
I mean. It's interesting. And I always found Calpernia to be a vastly underappreciated character.
But Imshael? I had to google just to make sure before pulling the trigger here... The tearing-at-the-seams (of Anders'/Rion's costume) multi-recycled area boss with the CC face and the obligatory "alluring demon" shtick we meet for like a second and then kill because why on earth would anyone not? Every time I do this quest, I remeber how I thought "wow that is almost comically lazy" the first time around.
That seems pretty random - unless I missed out on a ton of really cool content for a decade.
No offense to any die hard fans
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Post by SomberXIII on Nov 8, 2024 14:52:40 GMT
Holy shit we were robbed. Joplin sounds so much better than what we got story wise. That's ridiculous. How did you get into that whole conclusion just by some simple concept artworks?
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Post by eldemit on Nov 8, 2024 18:02:11 GMT
Holy shit we were robbed. Joplin sounds so much better than what we got story wise. That's ridiculous. How did you get into that whole conclusion just by some simple concept artworks? Uh you do realize there's plenty of text in the book that explains the art?
Interesting story beats that were explored such as the Divine sending out ships to hunt Solas, elves across Thedas moving towards Arlathan Forest to help Solas, the player character directly working with the Inquisitor,
Tevinter being SO much darker, looking AWESOME and imposing in a way that screams EMPIRE, not shying away from elven slavery as A HUGE part of it. Dorian, Isabella and Morrigan as advisors with much better outfits. Clashing HARD with your companions! Tension! Love on the high seas! The Divine is involved. In fact, it feels like all of Thedas is a real part of this finale. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warden was going to factor in somehow too. The idea to rescue who you left in the Fade and grapple with what the time spent there might have done to them. Solas and the ancient elves histories entwined with the dwarves in a much more intricate and thoughtful way, feeling like a true creation story in Thedas. Solas making himself tranquil.
MASSIVELY different endings including a bad one where the ritual succeeds and ancient elves come back.
What we ended up with in Veilguard is something cobbled together from the shreds of the original plot, built on the remains of the live service title, helmed by less experienced writers, and limited by what I assume are the demands of the executives who we know see story as an obstacle to making a product for the masses.
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Post by SomberXIII on Nov 8, 2024 23:59:42 GMT
That's ridiculous. How did you get into that whole conclusion just by some simple concept artworks? Uh you do realize there's plenty of text in the book that explains the art?
Interesting story beats that were explored such as the Divine sending out ships to hunt Solas, elves across Thedas moving towards Arlathan Forest to help Solas, the player character directly working with the Inquisitor,
Tevinter being SO much darker, looking AWESOME and imposing in a way that screams EMPIRE, not shying away from elven slavery as A HUGE part of it. Dorian, Isabella and Morrigan as advisors with much better outfits. Clashing HARD with your companions! Tension! Love on the high seas! The Divine is involved. In fact, it feels like all of Thedas is a real part of this finale. I wouldn't be surprised if the Warden was going to factor in somehow too. The idea to rescue who you left in the Fade and grapple with what the time spent there might have done to them. Solas and the ancient elves histories entwined with the dwarves in a much more intricate and thoughtful way, feeling like a true creation story in Thedas. Solas making himself tranquil.
MASSIVELY different endings including a bad one where the ritual succeeds and ancient elves come back.
What we ended up with in Veilguard is something cobbled together from the shreds of the original plot, built on the remains of the live service title, helmed by less experienced writers, and limited by what I assume are the demands of the executives who we know see story as an obstacle to making a product for the masses.
Of course I knew there are written text. I read everything. You just assumed I didn't. These were cool ideas but it's not so easy to execute them I'm sure. Even most setpieces in Veilguard looked like they were straining the time and budget to the max. There's no way the dramatic concept artworks could be delivered in the game unfortunately. And also about writers, they are the same team from Inquisition.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 9, 2024 1:06:35 GMT
Personally, I'm happy to not have high tensions between companions. Just for once, I would like companions who are actually good people with strong conflicts and Veilguard achieved that.
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Post by dadithinkimgay on Nov 10, 2024 17:30:01 GMT
Personally, I'm happy to not have high tensions between companions. Just for once, I would like companions who are actually good people with strong conflicts and Veilguard achieved that. I personally don’t think the game needed that. Below is just a simple sentence regarding this after finishing the game. No real spoilers but I don’t want people to infer anything if they want to experience it completely blind. After finishing the game, I am glad to jump back into more… happier times. Haha.
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Post by melbella on Nov 13, 2024 0:03:55 GMT
Mine arrived today!
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 13, 2024 20:52:04 GMT
Mine arrived today! 😄😄😄😄😄😉 Happy for you, Mel! I havent opened mine yet. Still in shrink wrap, but it is with the rest of my growing collection. Waiting to finish the game at least once before totally digging into it.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 20, 2024 16:26:48 GMT
Once I finish the game at least once I am going to dig into the Art book...maybe find the inspiration to continue my spin-off story that I began after I finished Jaws of Hakkon and Tresspasser.
My head canon Inquisitor is a Dalish Elven Mage who romanced Cullen. My second canon Inquisitor is a Human mage from Ferelden who romanced Cassandra.
I havent finished Veilguard yet so I have not decided which of my PCs is going to be my canon character.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Nov 20, 2024 17:08:37 GMT
I can't lie - some of the concepts I see described in this thread sound amazing. At the same time, it is never really fair to compare concepts to an actual product. Even if they were able to pursue the original vision, there is no guarantee it would all make it into the game or would be executed well. In any case, I hope the next game is free from reboots and doesn't take another ten years to arrive.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Nov 20, 2024 17:27:47 GMT
I can't lie - some of the concepts I see described in this thread sound amazing. At the same time, it is never really fair to compare concepts to an actual product. Even if they were able to pursue the original vision, there is no guarantee it would all make it into the game or would be executed well. In any case, I hope the next game is free from reboots and doesn't take another ten years to arrive. I totally agree there but part of me was/is hoping that Veilguard would be the last in the franchise. I gather though that that is not/would be the case. And though I have always preferred MASS EFFECT as a franchise....the next ME game is not slated for release till closer to 2030. In the words of our favourite Dwarven Storyteller, "I really am getting too old for this sh*t"
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Post by Gwydden on Nov 20, 2024 17:35:19 GMT
So from the Joplin era: Harding was always going to be a party member. Imshael was going to be a party member with a human form that they could change their sex (there's more art of their female form). Calpernia was going to be a party member, seems to have been transformed into Neve. Lucanis was originally Tevinter. The Qunari party member started as a male sareebas > male spy > dragon hunter rogue lady (Taash). The Crow companion was a female elf dreamer. Bioware seems to have love the idea of a Dalish-Grey Warden so Darvin was always going to be a thing. I'm sad about the loss of the Dreamer and Imshael they seemed like really unique ideas for party members. I believe the male Qunari saarebas/spy was a separate concept from the female Qunari rogue that ended up becoming Taash. I mean. It's interesting. And I always found Calpernia to be a vastly underappreciated character. But Imshael? I had to google just to make sure before pulling the trigger here... The tearing-at-the-seams (of Anders'/Rion's costume) multi-recycled area boss with the CC face and the obligatory "alluring demon" shtick we meet for like a second and then kill because why on earth would anyone not? Every time I do this quest, I remeber how I thought "wow that is almost comically lazy" the first time around. That seems pretty random - unless I missed out on a ton of really cool content for a decade. No offense to any die hard fans Imshael was in The Masked Empire novel. I never encountered the character in Inquisition, though I've heard about it from others. At any rate, NPCs change and get developed a lot when turned into companions.
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Post by ariarae on Nov 23, 2024 3:19:26 GMT
I just finished the game, so I think I will be looking through my copy of the art book this weekend! I loved the previous book (and game art books in general), so I'm excited.
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Post by Frost on Nov 29, 2024 19:10:50 GMT
Now that I have finished the game, I looked through the art book. The page on art style stood out. They have examples of the Inquisition art style, and the same scene redone in Veilguard style. They said they decided to skip focus tests on the Veilguard art style because they were so confident in it. I can understand wanting to skip focus tests, but in this case if they had used them, it might have saved them from the issues with character art style Veilguard had.
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