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Post by flyingsquirrel on Nov 15, 2024 16:28:42 GMT
(This isn't a criticism or a nitpick, just a thought experiment.)
While I'm no evolutionary biologist, it seems to me that natural selection favors characteristics that help a *species* survive rather than characteristics that necessarily help any one single individual survive - i.e. the traits that enable a species to remain healthy and well-fed enough to eventually reproduce, make use of their environment, and raise capable offspring. I know that the asari tend to explore and develop their personalities over a longer period of time, but it doesn't seem like they wait until they're up to, say, 800 to have children, nor is there any biological reason why they would need or want to do that. Even a relatively young asari like Liara seems like she'd be capable of raising a child (I mean in a sense of general basic competence and maturity - I'm not trying to start a debate about Liara's character).
So is it likely that they'd evolve to live for hundreds of years after having children? I think I've heard that one reason humans don't have especially long lifetimes is that, in terms of bringing children into the world and raising them, we don't need to - at a certain point, most of us have either contributed to the propagation of the species or not, and whether we live to 60 or 80 or 100 doesn't make much difference. I know there's been speculation about transhumanism and life extension technology, but that would be artificial evolution, not natural evolution. While I'm sure the asari have highly advanced medical technology and health care, I don't think they're heavily "augmented" (to borrow a Deus Ex term), and I'm skeptical that better health care and biotechnology would be enough to keep them alive for hundreds of years longer than expected - the longer human lifespans in the MEverse (presumably also due to better tech and health care) are discussed in terms of decades, not centuries. I guess the protheans manipulated their early history to some degree, but neither Javik nor the prothean VI in ME3 said that they did some sort of genetic engineering.
Was this ever actually discussed in the lore somewhere? (Or am I just misunderstanding how evolution works?)
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Post by RedCaesar97 on Nov 16, 2024 3:23:05 GMT
Short answer: Probably? Apologies if I ramble a bit on this topic, or even cut the answer short. I think it is much too late and I am much too tired to answer this question right now, but I will probably forget by tomorrow if I do not. I also do not know much about evolutionary biology, and I want to be careful with whatever knowledge I do possess on the topic that I do not present myself as knowledgeable, as I would expose myself as standing atop "Mount Stupid" in the Dunning-Kreuger effect. Please correct me if I have anything wrong. I know that the asari tend to explore and develop their personalities over a longer period of time, but it doesn't seem like they wait until they're up to, say, 800 to have children, nor is there any biological reason why they would need or want to do that. Even a relatively young asari like Liara seems like she'd be capable of raising a child (I mean in a sense of general basic competence and maturity - I'm not trying to start a debate about Liara's character). So is it likely that they'd evolve to live for hundreds of years after having children? To summarize, according to the Mass Effect codex, Asari go through three stages in life: 1. Maiden stage (the first 300 years): They grow up and then go out and see the world and do a bunch of crazy things (including joining merc bands and dancing in bars). 2. Matron stage (the next 300 years): they settle down, find bondmates -- sometimes more than one over that time period -- and raise families. 3. The Matriarch stage (the final 300+ years): they grow old and become advisors, councillors, and other political leaders. These are stages are generalized, but there are outliers. For example, I believe Liara mentions in a conversation that some Asari may find bondmates and start families in the earlier Maiden stage.
To provide a somewhat more long-winded response, we know of at least one other long-lived species in the Mass Effect universe: the Krogan. The Krogan can also live for hundreds of years. Krogan are essentially evolved reptiles; some reptiles on Earth can live a very long time such as some tortoises. So we could infer that some very long-lived species could continue to long live past their reproductive days, or at least still be reproductive for a long time. It should also be pointed out that humans are rather unlike other species on Earth when it comes to reproduction. Compared to other animals -- mammals especially -- human babies are "incubated" for about 9 months, which is much longer than most other creatures. Humans also take years to reach maturity, compared to other animals which can take months at the longest. Humans probably should not have survived this long comparatively to other creatures. So yes, I think it would be possible for an Asari-like species to evolve. And if I were to ramble for a bit further, evolution itself is rather weird in my opinion. Perhaps someone with greater knowledge on the subject to enlighten me, but I do find it strange that evolution seems to have favored sexual partners, rather than species producing asexually (species producing without a sexual partner), as sexual reproduction requires enough partners within enough range and time to produce enough offspring to survive and grow in sufficient numbers.
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