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Post by parsival on Nov 24, 2024 8:42:09 GMT
I hadn't really been keeping up with every scrap or tidbit of information regarding what became Veilguard over the decade since Inquisition - I knew a game was being developed and that was enough for me. What I was expecting though was a 'search for Solas' game, with the attempt to stop the ritual being the culmination of our efforts over 90+ hours. It feels like we skipped a whole game! I am rather tempted one day to remedy this by devising my own pen and paper campaign, using Green Ronin's DA rules (my previous Agents of the Inquisition game went pretty well).
Would it not be possible though for either Bioware, or a company they hired, to go back and fill in the gaps? There are examples of prequels, are there not? I note that Spiders is releasing Greedfall 2, which is set a few years before the first game. Other universes, like that of Warhammer Fantasy, blow up the world but then set games before the apocalypse.
I think we need a proper Dragon Age: Dreadwolf game.
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 25, 2024 6:52:05 GMT
I'm not aware of any evidence that your speculation is actually the case.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Nov 25, 2024 7:19:28 GMT
wut
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Nov 25, 2024 7:36:55 GMT
I mean, I *have* heard of some like hardcore DA fans refusing to accept Veilguard as canon. Saying it's a bad fanfic. But is it, though (not saying yes or no, just asking the hard questions, as a voice of the masses, champion of the people that I am).
Devil's advocate: if Veilguard is a fanfic, where are the big tiddies and hello kitties and dingalings out and about? Because isn't that the point of a fanfic though, writing erotica on Tumblr to pretend like your Lavellan boned Solas and stuff, and ovulate to it? Not my thing, I gotta tell ya.
Let's say Veilguard/Dreadwolf is your newborn child. Do you leave it to be devoured by wolves, or take it somewhere else to be mauled by bears? That kid's dead, either way if you ask me. So, what's the point? Give them a nice funeral, get wasted, then get pregnant again - not necessarily in this order (though it is optimal). And life goes on... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Nov 25, 2024 7:37:35 GMT
Jesus, what am I even talking about...
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Post by spacev3gan on Nov 25, 2024 10:17:05 GMT
So a Dragon Age game set after Trespasser but before Veilguard, in which hunting Solas is the main plot? And does Bioware have the scraps for that story somewhere?
I guess possibly. But it is very unlikely to materialize into a game.
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Post by LoonySpectre on Nov 25, 2024 12:01:25 GMT
The main downside of interquels is that you already know how exactly it all ends.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 25, 2024 12:04:45 GMT
Devil's advocate: if Veilguard is a fanfic, where are the big tiddies and hello kitties and dingalings out and about? Because isn't that the point of a fanfic though, writing erotica on Tumblr to pretend like your Lavellan boned Solas and stuff, and ovulate to it? Not my thing, I gotta tell ya. Currently there are almost 90,000 works in the Dragon Age tag on AO3. Of those, only about 17,000 are classified as 'Explicit.' Like in most fandoms, the General Audience and Teen-rated stuff vastly outweighs the smut, the smut just has better publicity  . (The Lavellan/Solas tag is actually even tamer than that. Only about 20% pornography by volume. The Cullen/Inquisitor shippers have them beat by both quantity and percentage.)
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Nov 25, 2024 19:09:24 GMT
Devil's advocate: if Veilguard is a fanfic, where are the big tiddies and hello kitties and dingalings out and about? Because isn't that the point of a fanfic though, writing erotica on Tumblr to pretend like your Lavellan boned Solas and stuff, and ovulate to it? Not my thing, I gotta tell ya. Currently there are almost 90,000 works in the Dragon Age tag on AO3. Of those, only about 17,000 are classified as 'Explicit.' Like in most fandoms, the General Audience and Teen-rated stuff vastly outweighs the smut, the smut just has better publicity . (The Lavellan/Solas tag is actually even tamer than that. Only about 20% pornography by volume. The Cullen/Inquisitor shippers have them beat by both quantity and percentage.) Oh, dang! 😱 |
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Post by phoray on Nov 26, 2024 1:09:55 GMT
So a Dragon Age game set after Trespasser but before Veilguard, in which hunting Solas is the main plot? And does Bioware have the scraps for that story somewhere? It's in their artbook that they sold. Taunting us in exchange for money. |
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Post by colfoley on Nov 26, 2024 1:17:51 GMT
Grass is always greener...
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Post by parsival on Nov 26, 2024 11:04:26 GMT
The main downside of interquels is that you already know how exactly it all ends. Everyone knows how Lord of the Rings ends, but that didn't stop the Shadow of Mordor games being great.
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Post by mattjamho on Nov 26, 2024 16:57:03 GMT
Veilguard isn’t how imagined DA4 to be, but I’ve really enjoyed it non-the-less. I’m sorry for the folks who don’t like it, I can see where it diverts from a lot of people’s expectations for the story, but I’ve enjoyed where it’s taken the series.
I can’t ever see them doing a ‘Dreadwolf Reboot’. If we get another DA game, i can only see them moving ahead in the timeline, not going back.
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 26, 2024 18:18:06 GMT
The main downside of interquels is that you already know how exactly it all ends. I though Siege of Dragonspear handled this OK. But the way it worked there was that the plot didn't have anything to do with BG1 or BG2 at all, except for shuffling the characters into their necessary positions and a couple of minutes at the end. Applying the same technique to Dragon Age would result in a game where we never get near Solas except at the very end, where we end up where Veilguard starts.
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 26, 2024 18:22:10 GMT
The main downside of interquels is that you already know how exactly it all ends. Everyone knows how Lord of the Rings ends, but that didn't stop the Shadow of Mordor games being great. So you'd be OK with a game where nothing of importance happens except that we finally catch up with Solas in Minrathous? Again, I don't think there's anything to reboot here. I'm not aware that any such plot actually ever existed or was intended.
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Post by necrowaif on Nov 26, 2024 18:54:10 GMT
I mean, I *have* heard of some like hardcore DA fans refusing to accept Veilguard as canon. *Holds up hand*
I've decided that BioWare shuttered after the failure of Anthem and the Dragon IP was handed over to a lesser studio to shit out a sequel. As such, I refuse to recognize it as canon.
Tevinter Nights, Absolution and The Missing are also stricken from the continuity.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Nov 26, 2024 19:19:08 GMT
I *have* heard of some like hardcore entitled DA fans refusing to accept Veilguard as canon. They don't get to choose. They can think it's a bad Dragon Age game all they want. But it is a Dragon Age game, and canon. Even if it is the final one, both in sequence and in quality. Claims that it isn't one is just posturing.
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Post by Blast Processor on Nov 26, 2024 19:23:04 GMT
Everyone knows how Lord of the Rings ends, but that didn't stop the Shadow of Mordor games being great. So you'd be OK with a game where nothing of importance happens except that we finally catch up with Solas in Minrathous? Well, as long as Prak the Berserker and Narug the Slippery are involved.
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Post by emissaryoflies on Nov 27, 2024 2:47:15 GMT
There's a myth regarding Spartans and defective offspring that I liken to Veilguard. I'll leave it at that. Would love a reboot/remake of the entire game to be honest. I accept that Veilguard happened, but I do not accept it is an accurate representation of Dragon Age. It is a mistake that I hope is rectified in the future. A game chasing after Solas could be interesting. And at the very least, it won't start in a bar with Marvel quips.
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Post by phoray on Nov 27, 2024 23:35:58 GMT
Everyone knows how Lord of the Rings ends, but that didn't stop the Shadow of Mordor games being great. So you'd be OK with a game where nothing of importance happens except that we finally catch up with Solas in Minrathous. I used to just like Thedas. I also liked DA2 And don't mind a smaller story. If it allowed us to actually explore Tevinter politics and the war and subsequent occupation of the Antaam then yes, I wouldn't care that it ended up with the start of Rook showing up. So long as it wasn't Rook we were playing, because that person is a big nothing burger. |
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Post by fairdragon on Nov 28, 2024 10:40:40 GMT
So a Dragon Age game set after Trespasser but before Veilguard, in which hunting Solas is the main plot? And does Bioware have the scraps for that story somewhere? It's in their artbook that they sold. Taunting us in exchange for money. It is a comic the name is the missing link
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Post by parsival on Nov 28, 2024 10:52:09 GMT
DLC is often content that can take place during the actual game, before the end. Does the fact that one knows how the game ends, invalidate the DLC experience? Is the Shadowbroker DLC for Mass Effect 2 worthless, unless you set and play it after the suicide mission?
What I'm saying is, you could view a prequel game like a huge DLC - it adds to the story, even though the end of the grander plotline is known in advance.
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Post by fairdragon on Nov 29, 2024 9:20:04 GMT
DLC is often content that can take place during the actual game, before the end. Does the fact that one knows how the game ends, invalidate the DLC experience? Is the Shadowbroker DLC for Mass Effect 2 worthless, unless you set and play it after the suicide mission? What I'm saying is, you could view a prequel game like a huge DLC - it adds to the story, even though the end of the grander plotline is known in advance. For something like that i think it is better in form of a comic. Look at Lelianas Song. In my eyes this DLC should have been a comic, not a DLC. But the comic have to be good and the missing isn't good.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 29, 2024 9:27:30 GMT
I think an interquel would be a lot more interesting if you played as one of Solas's agents and got to explore why he seemingly dismantled his network before starting the ritual.
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Post by Amburu on Nov 29, 2024 11:38:18 GMT
If you're willing to look into the transmedia content there's a bit of interquel going on in there  probably not as much as you would want to but it's still helping on top of my head there's at least the tevinter night novel plus a few comic storylines |
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Its never too late. LOL. 
probably not as much as you would want to but it's still helping