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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Nov 28, 2024 23:09:09 GMT
Long time no see around here dear DA fans.As a former player of DAO
(I've played it back then in 2009) I Remember the option presented by Morrigan to preserve the Archdemon soul of the 5th blight in DAO.
As I had correctly predicted she had no idea why she was really doing it back then.
Now my question is,I know it's mandatory for everyone to face the two Canon villains of the game.I wonder for DR world state shouldn't be 1 more main villain to fight beside those two?
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 28, 2024 23:16:42 GMT
Since the Old God Baby isn't one of the three world state choices in Veilguard, there aren't any effects from it. The effects were seen in Inquisition and consisted of whether or not Kieran exists. David Gaider no longer works at BioWare but has some wise thoughts about world state imports and consequences in a thread here: bsky.app/profile/davidgaider.bsky.social/post/3lbfwg2555s22Given what we've learned about Mythal, it seems unlikely that her motivation for sending Morrigan to have the baby was preserving the soul of one of her murderers in the first place. It seems more likely that what Kieran can end up with is the original soul of the dragon Urthemiel, not the connected Evanuris. |
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Post by colfoley on Nov 28, 2024 23:18:35 GMT
Plotline was resolved in Inquisition.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 28, 2024 23:19:40 GMT
Since the Old God Baby isn't one of the three world state choices in Veilguard, there aren't any effects from it. The effects were seen in Inquisition and consisted of whether or not Kieran exists. David Gaider no longer works at BioWare but has some wise thoughts about world state imports and consequences in a thread here: bsky.app/profile/davidgaider.bsky.social/post/3lbfwg2555s22Given what we've learned about Mythal, it seems unlikely that her motivation for sending Morrigan to have the baby was preserving the soul of one of her murderers in the first place. It seems more likely that what Kieran can end up with is the original soul of the dragon Urthemiel, not the connected Evanuris. And Kieran has "no more dreams." So, his story is already done. He's normal and he's likely in his 20s. He doesn't need to be by Morrigan's side 24/7.
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Post by emissaryoflies on Nov 28, 2024 23:21:41 GMT
The consequences of the Dark Ritual may have been Veilguard itself. In all seriousness, this choice was completely ignored in Veilguard along with everything else in the series. The exceptions being if the Inquisition was disbanded, who the Inquisitor romanced, and if they vowed to stop Solas or not. The only notable acknowledgements in Veilguard concern Solas, however.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Nov 28, 2024 23:42:27 GMT
Since the Old God Baby isn't one of the three world state choices in Veilguard, there aren't any effects from it. The effects were seen in Inquisition and consisted of whether or not Kieran exists. David Gaider no longer works at BioWare but has some wise thoughts about world state imports and consequences in a thread here: bsky.app/profile/davidgaider.bsky.social/post/3lbfwg2555s22Given what we've learned about Mythal, it seems unlikely that her motivation for sending Morrigan to have the baby was preserving the soul of one of her murderers in the first place. It seems more likely that what Kieran can end up with is the original soul of the dragon Urthemiel, not the connected Evanuris. Unfortunately I don't Remember how to use the spoiler tag, last time I used the forum was years ago. Anyway I thought It was a rule in DAO that Dark Ritual meant no soul destroyed.So the Urthemiel guy of DAO should still be around.Kieran in DAI is not relevant he was only and temporary host.About Flemeth and her reasons in DAO for doing things, I have no theory other than maybe She was looking to get the soul to later on take all of it's Power from It, so She wasn't doing a favor to the Archdemon |
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Nov 29, 2024 0:23:34 GMT
The consequences of the Dark Ritual may have been Veilguard itself. In all seriousness, this choice was completely ignored in Veilguard along with everything else in the series. The exceptions being if the Inquisition was disbanded, who the Inquisitor romanced, and if they vowed to stop Solas or not. The only notable acknowledgements in Veilguard concern Solas, however. I've read the posts by David Gaider, so it's not convinient for the devs to fully develop optional choices for a triple A production game. I think in this case tho Urthemiel surviving in DAO wasn't really optional it was mandatory. Evanuris June/Urthemiel in theory shouldn't die completely in DAO no matter what the player does.A warden sacrifice only makes an Evanuris mortal,It doesn't kill them.The 4 Evanuris who died, as Solas implied died in the fade after losing their immortality, so they probably died due to old age.Urthemiel/June had to be mortal and older on World state with no Ritual and Immortal on the DR state, not dead BC the 5th blight was only 20 years prior to this game.He should have been still imprisoned with Elgar'nan and Ghilan'ain and be older than them not dead, so I think the writers didn't got it right. |
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Post by sageoflife on Nov 29, 2024 3:41:47 GMT
Since the Old God Baby isn't one of the three world state choices in Veilguard, there aren't any effects from it. The effects were seen in Inquisition and consisted of whether or not Kieran exists. David Gaider no longer works at BioWare but has some wise thoughts about world state imports and consequences in a thread here: bsky.app/profile/davidgaider.bsky.social/post/3lbfwg2555s22Given what we've learned about Mythal, it seems unlikely that her motivation for sending Morrigan to have the baby was preserving the soul of one of her murderers in the first place. It seems more likely that what Kieran can end up with is the original soul of the dragon Urthemiel, not the connected Evanuris. There's no reason why Mythal would want to preserve a bog-standard high dragon. I think it's more likely that she was trying to create a new physical vessel so that once the last Archdemon was slain, she would have a way to sustain the Veil.
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Post by saandrig on Nov 29, 2024 8:22:08 GMT
The Dark Ritual creates a variable that was causing writing issues in DAI already.
So it was pretty much dealt with in DAI - Mythal gets the Soul (if it exists), then Solas absorbs the Soul along with the rest of Mythal's power. The End.
From that point on it was obvious the writing obstacle is removed and it didn't matter what the end results are. The Soul is either destroyed in the process or Solas keeps it for whatever purpose. It's off the table either way.
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