*****Lord Claymore Thread! Tell me about your Claymore!*****

Claymore is still good.

The new Claymore can surely look and fire like this:

I prefer Geth Plasma Shotgun and Graal Spike Thrower myself. The Claymore can only be good if you use an exploit / trick and have a mod like Smart Choke or use ability like Hunter Mode or Marksman. On its own, without any mods or reloading tricks, the Claymore is just a shotgun with strong damage up close and that's about it. The Geth Plasma Shotgun and the Graal Spike Thrower both deal good damage without needing Smart Choke mods or Hunter Mode or Marksman or reloading tricks.

Precisely. Claymore needs some extra specific programming to be good. Graal and GPS are both good without it. Therefore, Graal & GPS > Claymore.

I can use the Claymore just fine. I just don't like using it because I feel that you need to effectively cheat to get the most out of it. Can you imagine Shepard actually shooting the Claymore and then clicking on his or her omni-tool to pseudo-activate Medi-Gel or roll around in actual combat to somehow reload the Claymore quicker instead of just reloading the gun ? No, that's just silly, ridiculous, and foolish.

Moreover, this trick, and it is a trick, is only reserved for the person using it at the moment. You will not see the animations of another multiplayer character kit change when they use the quick reload trick. There is also the reality that rebinding keys or rolling around after pressing the reload button is not exactly skilled gameplay. Getting headshots without aimbots, soloing a multiplayer game without using Infiltrators or the Cerberus Harrier, etc - Those are demonstrations of skill. 

Furthermore, from an army's perspective, the best weapons are the ones that is easily usable without requiring specific programming. Which means that from a battle perspective, GPS & Graal > Claymore.  Additionally, the inherently inaccurate nature of the Claymore necessitates the usage of a mod like Smart Choke or having a skill like Hunter Mode or Marksman. In war time situations, equipment such as mods will be scarce and not every combatant in the field have the Marksman skill or is a Geth to have Hunter Mode.

1) Sure it's just a game, but a good game would have some sense of groundedness, instead of just explaining things off as space magic or silly game mechanics.

2) Reload-cancel mechanic is there because without it, single shot weapons like the Claymore would be weak DPS wise.

3) If an actual user in ME universe were to use the Claymore, they would have to reload it the proper way because the single shot nature of the Claymore means that its thermal clips would need to be ejected safely. Thermal clips are where the heat from a weapon is transferred. Trying to bypass that through medi-gel and rolling around can leave the weapon user injured, seeing as the Claymore will generate a lot of heat from its shot.

4) Zero bearing ? Mass Effect is a game set in a backdrop of war. So of course war logistics are relevant.

5) If a weapon needs something extra that is not included as standard with purchase in order to make it good or complete, then the weapon is effectively an unfinished product. Buying such weapons is just bad consumer habit.

Avenger is an Alliance standard issue weapon precisely because of that. It is light, it does not require much modification, it can be used by all classes with no real issues and because it is quite old, there would be tons of spare parts around and it will be cheap to manufacture. 

Having said that, I prefer the Phaeston if we are talking about standard issue weapons. The Turians know their shit when it comes to large scale warfare since the Phaeston is an all around good weapon.

IMO, Bioware missed an opportunity with the standard issue weapons. Personally, Bioware should have taken a leaf out of Team Fortress 2 when it comes to weapons. In TF2, the standard issue weapons are never totally outdated or completely superseded by anything else.

They could nerf about a quarter of it's damage and it still wouldn't make any difference. It's the Les Paul of shotguns.


I feed my Claymore incendiary ammo everyday and he loves it.

I used to play MP a lot when I had the internet for it. I don't anymore.

Pre-nerf Pirahana.

Alternatively,

Reegar.

THLC is good though, just not as good.