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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 11, 2016 19:41:35 GMT
Can we get a race of cyborg or synthetic Andromliens?
Similar to Virtual Aliens in the ME3 our machine Andromliens abandoned their original organic bodies long ago.
Their souls and minds were tossed into synthetic platforms.
They can all naturally cloak and specialize in melee attack infiltration.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 11, 2016 19:48:12 GMT
Can we get a race of cyborg or synthetic Andromliens? Similar to Virtual Aliens in the ME3 our machine Andromliens abandoned their original organic bodies long ago. Their souls and minds were tossed into synthetic platforms. They can all naturally cloak and specialize in melee attack infiltration. Earlier this year there was a rumor that one of the squadmates would be a non-geth synthetic. Might or might not be true
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 19:48:42 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game?
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Post by Serza on Nov 11, 2016 19:51:27 GMT
Yeah, I also gotta ask, where did they confirm no Geth?
Geth do not infiltrate. At least not intentionally. That doesn't mean they're not packed in SOMEHOW.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 11, 2016 19:54:03 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game? I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 19:56:51 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game? I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 11, 2016 19:59:41 GMT
I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. Very simple: Resources There will be new alien races in Andromeda, so you need to dump some of the older ones. It's simply down to cost and development time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 20:01:41 GMT
Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. Very simple: Resources There will be new alien races in Andromeda, so you need to dump some of the older ones. It's simply down to cost and development time. Oh yeah, it is so resource-extensive to write a paragraph for the Codex explaining that they are there, and we just don't see them this game.
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Post by Iakus on Nov 11, 2016 20:28:29 GMT
I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. Why did they shelve the ME1 crew for ME2? Why did they shelve teh ME2 crew for ME3? Resources. Baggage. The price you pay for dumping one setting for another after burning the first one down.
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Post by Arcian on Nov 11, 2016 22:03:36 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game? I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? They forgot to bring along logic to Andromeda. They might as well go all out and include every single species that ever appeared in the original trilogy, including yahg, Reapers and protheans. Who really cares at this point?
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Post by swagmaster97 on Nov 11, 2016 23:06:11 GMT
From the N7 trailer. "Welcome back" A male, synthetic voice. Possibly a virtual intelligence welcoming us back to Hyperion or Tempest after the Hyperion rapidly parks itself on the desert planet and ourselves and the other Ai guy get ejected? Or an Artificial intelligence meant to staff the Hyperion while the crew napped away the voyage? Perhaps we download the grounded Hyperion s AI into a security bots body? Also, did anyone else think that "this is incredible/I have a bad feeling" sounded like a Quarian?
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Post by KaiserShep on Nov 11, 2016 23:15:33 GMT
I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. How would the narrative fit both the quarians and geth prior to Rannoch's resolution? Would this just be swept under the rug?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 11, 2016 23:39:33 GMT
Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. How would the narrative fit both the quarians and geth prior to Rannoch's resolution? Would this just be swept under the rug? That's easy. According to Legion the Geth have been wanting peace with the Creators ever since before the Morning War. And there are Quarians like Admiral Koris who see both sides as victims and want peace. The Quarians with the Andromeda Initiative can be like him so would get along with the Geth who are a part of it.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 12, 2016 0:42:55 GMT
How would the narrative fit both the quarians and geth prior to Rannoch's resolution? Would this just be swept under the rug? That's easy. According to Legion the Geth have been wanting peace with the Creators ever since before the Morning War. And there are Quarians like Admiral Koris who see both sides as victims and want peace. The Quarians with the Andromeda Initiative can be like him so would get along with the Geth who are a part of it. If you say so... We'll see in c.130 days time .
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Post by InstaShark on Nov 12, 2016 0:43:02 GMT
How would the narrative fit both the quarians and geth prior to Rannoch's resolution? Would this just be swept under the rug? That's easy. According to Legion the Geth have been wanting peace with the Creators ever since before the Morning War. And there are Quarians like Admiral Koris who see both sides as victims and want peace. The Quarians with the Andromeda Initiative can be like him so would get along with the Geth who are a part of it. Far as I can remember, that was a very unpopular opinion among the Quarians (especially the Quarians). Not only that, considering the fact that Quarians need some very specific accomodations to ensure they don't die from even the most minor of bacteria coupled with the fact that Quarians are very tight-knit within their community (even if they are far from the Flotilla), I highly doubt there would be any incentive for the Andromeda Initiative to take them with. As for the Geth, on the other hand, most were either too busy trying to resolve their feud with the Quarians or were too busy worshipping the Reapers. Not only that, Geth perform very poorly when not in large numbers. Legion was an exception because there were numerous programs stuffed into one body. So all in all, the writers would have a hard time trying to shoehorn in either species (if you can consider Geth as one) without breaking the players' suspension of belief.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 1:22:16 GMT
That's easy. According to Legion the Geth have been wanting peace with the Creators ever since before the Morning War. And there are Quarians like Admiral Koris who see both sides as victims and want peace. The Quarians with the Andromeda Initiative can be like him so would get along with the Geth who are a part of it. Far as I can remember, that was a very unpopular opinion among the Quarians (especially the Quarians). Not only that, considering the fact that Quarians need some very specific accomodations to ensure they don't die from even the most minor of bacteria coupled with the fact that Quarians are very tight-knit within their community (even if they are far from the Flotilla), I highly doubt there would be any incentive for the Andromeda Initiative to take them with. As for the Geth, on the other hand, most were either too busy trying to resolve their feud with the Quarians or were too busy worshipping the Reapers. Not only that, Geth perform very poorly when not in large numbers. Legion was an exception because there were numerous programs stuffed into one body. So all in all, the writers would have a hard time trying to shoehorn in either species (if you can consider Geth as one) without breaking the players' suspension of belief. The Quarians have several missions in place that involved doing exactly what the Andromeda Initiative is doing, albeit staying in the Milky Way rather than Andromeda. Also a Quarian ship can leave the Flotilla is they disagree with how it is going. So there are numerous ways there can be enough Quarians interested in the mission. And the Arks are being built to supply those accommodations for each race so that would be taken care of if they help. No, most Geth were trying to build that Dyson Sphere to achieve true understanding. Like the Quarians, there are multiple ways for it to work. There could be Geth that broke away from the main consensus over whether to participate just like the Heretics did when it came to following Sovereign. Or since the Geth want to survive the Reapers like everyone else, they could see this as a contingency plan and join so even if the other Geth fall there is still a Consensus. Legion only had 1,183 Geth units inside him, so there can easily be that many among the project and either have a Legion-like platform since they built more than one, or have it mostly in software and connect to various platforms yet still able to communicate like they were before the Morning War. They have already broken the suspension of disbelief with the miracle technology that allows us to get to Andromeda when we can barely get to the nearest stars without becoming slag. Compared to that, this makes perfect sense.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 1:23:35 GMT
That's easy. According to Legion the Geth have been wanting peace with the Creators ever since before the Morning War. And there are Quarians like Admiral Koris who see both sides as victims and want peace. The Quarians with the Andromeda Initiative can be like him so would get along with the Geth who are a part of it. If you say so... We'll see in c.130 days time . Well I hope they answer this before release. Not just the Quarian and Geth, but all the races whose involvement in the franchise is still up in the air. They probably will since when asked they've said things like 'soon' or 'closer to release'.
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 12, 2016 2:10:17 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game? Why would there be? The races fleeing our galaxy is doing so, from synthetics. Why in God's name would they bring along synthetics?.... Geth were seen as hostile by every race in ME1 and ME2. Mind you the arcs take off in between ME2 and ME3. There is zero chance Geth will be in Andromeda.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 2:13:43 GMT
Where did they confirm Geth won't be in the game? Why would there be? The races fleeing our galaxy is doing so, from synthetics. Why in God's name would they bring along synthetics?.... Geth were seen as hostile by every race in ME1 and ME2. Mind you the arcs take off in between ME2 and ME3. There is zero chance Geth will be in Andromeda. That's not the reason we are going to Andromeda, or at least not the main reason. The reason we are going is things like curiosity, exploration, etc. Because synthetics would be the best bet to crew the ships as they travel for centuries and the organics sleep since synthetics need no resources. As you said, after ME2. So after we know they aren't all hostile. Plus obvious things like "we kept it secret". They are retconning other things after all.
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 12, 2016 2:19:37 GMT
Why would there be? The races fleeing our galaxy is doing so, from synthetics. Why in God's name would they bring along synthetics?.... Geth were seen as hostile by every race in ME1 and ME2. Mind you the arcs take off in between ME2 and ME3. There is zero chance Geth will be in Andromeda. That's not the reason we are going to Andromeda, or at least not the main reason. The reason we are going is things like curiosity, exploration, etc. Because synthetics would be the best bet to crew the ships as they travel for centuries and the organics sleep since synthetics need no resources. As you said, after ME2. So after we know they aren't all hostile. Plus obvious things like "we kept it secret". They are retconning other things after all. Shepard and his crew learn they aren't all hostile. 99% of everyone else still see them as being dangerous. AI in general is seen as dangerous in ME. Bringing along AI to Andromeda goes against everything the first two games told us about how people feel about artificial intelligence. It makes no sense in terms of the lore that was laid out in the original trilogy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 2:27:09 GMT
That's not the reason we are going to Andromeda, or at least not the main reason. The reason we are going is things like curiosity, exploration, etc. Because synthetics would be the best bet to crew the ships as they travel for centuries and the organics sleep since synthetics need no resources. As you said, after ME2. So after we know they aren't all hostile. Plus obvious things like "we kept it secret". They are retconning other things after all. Shepard and his crew learn they aren't all hostile. 99% of everyone else still see them as being dangerous. AI in general is seen as dangerous in ME. Bringing along AI to Andromeda goes against everything the first two games told us about how people feel about artificial intelligence. It makes no sense in terms of the lore that was laid out in the original trilogy. 1% of a galactic population is actually quite a lot of people. Like, billions. But the galaxy overall seeing them as dangerous doesn't mean the Andromeda Initiative does. After all the galaxy sees krogan as dangerous too yet they are being brought along. So like I said, Geth involvement could have been kept secret by the Andromeda Initiative until we get there. Plus I'd say only the first game paints AI as that. In ME2, everything involving AI was people getting over their mistrust and seeing AI like them. We see this with Joker and EDI, Legion and Tali, and really the portrayal of Geth in general. Neither does suddenly having intergalactic travel when the lore at the same time says our cycle is not capable of that. Just saying apparently the lore doesn't mean anything to Bioware anymore, but compared to that breach this one has ways that can work.
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Post by Tarkus on Nov 12, 2016 3:28:42 GMT
Nah, just have a Geth or two that got on disguised as Quarians.
It'll be obvious to us, but everyone in the Andromeda Initiative will be fooled.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 12, 2016 3:51:09 GMT
Why do some races have to be dumped? I see no good reason for that to be the case. Why did they shelve the ME1 crew for ME2? Why did they shelve teh ME2 crew for ME3? Resources. Baggage. The price you pay for dumping one setting for another after burning the first one down. I hate it when you make a good point. @thread Geth could be downloaded. But really? You want MORE Geth? We had three games of Geth enemies and two included feel good VI's with lore breaking emotional attachments and desires. Then we either killed them all or saved them all and possibly killed them all again after saving them. There is literally nothing left to do, that hasn't been done with Geth already.
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Post by guanxi on Nov 12, 2016 8:37:37 GMT
Geth are software... you could probably fit a colony of them on a usb stick. There is no real reason why pre-ME3 Geth are any less likely to make the trip then pre-ME3 krogan. As far as we know they are one of the most popular species amongst fans so to not include them would be a silly mistake easily retconned if fans kick up a fuss and they will.
The only possible reason I could see BioWare not including them would be if they are introducing a new synthetic race who they feel need room to breathe and they are already introducing a ton of other species to new players already. That's not to say they couldn't make a reappearance in multiplayer dlc which would confirm their presence without affecting the single player narrative.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 12, 2016 9:10:07 GMT
I don't believe they have. Though it doesn't seem very logical to include them and some races have to be dumped... I'd be surprised to see Geth in Andromeda and why/how would/could the ark fleet bring Geth? They forgot to bring along logic to Andromeda. They might as well go all out and include every single species that ever appeared in the original trilogy, including yahg, Reapers and protheans. Who really cares at this point? A lot of people still do, regardless of the premise. The fact that there might be something not logical in the game doesn't mean I'd want more things like that. Or did you think they could've put anything illogical in ME2 just because we had the game opening with Shepard dying and be later resurrected?
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