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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 11, 2016 19:45:21 GMT
Will we see any? Will they be hermaphrodites with no specific gender?
Similar to the Protheans everything we've seen so far looks overwhelmingly male. The Khet have very masculine physiques and voices.
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Post by davesin on Nov 11, 2016 20:27:43 GMT
It will be the same case as dwarven women. They exist... somewhere. Just like most female Turians.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2016 21:12:25 GMT
I strongly, strongly hope BioWare don't repeat past mistakes by introducing a new alien species, and only showing one gender, completey ignoring the other with some trite lore excuse (salarians, turians, krogan).
If they chose to introduce another new race like the asari, fine, but make it clear the species is mono gendered.
But if the species is built up of both male and female, there is no excuse for revealing the other gender three games later, in a DLC many won't play.
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 12, 2016 2:00:18 GMT
I strongly, strongly hope BioWare don't repeat past mistakes by introducing a new alien species, and only showing one gender, completey ignoring the other with some trite lore excuse (salarians, turians, krogan). If they chose to introduce another new race like the asari, fine, but make it clear the species is mono gendered. But if the species is built up of both male and female, there is no excuse for revealing the other gender three games later, in a DLC many won't play. Pretty much this. I hate when Bioware keeps adding new races, or plans to, only to have 1 gender shown. That just comes off as lazy. I just wonder how many female aliens will Andromeda have in general? No excuse to hide female turian, krogan or Salarians.....none at all. And hopefully they don't just reuse the male models and slap a bunch of robes on them and say "dat looks good." Every race and gender should have unique models.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 2:09:29 GMT
I strongly, strongly hope BioWare don't repeat past mistakes by introducing a new alien species, and only showing one gender, completey ignoring the other with some trite lore excuse (salarians, turians, krogan). If they chose to introduce another new race like the asari, fine, but make it clear the species is mono gendered. But if the species is built up of both male and female, there is no excuse for revealing the other gender three games later, in a DLC many won't play. Pretty much this. I hate when Bioware keeps adding new races, or plans to, only to have 1 gender shown. That just comes off as lazy. I just wonder how many female aliens will Andromeda have in general? No excuse to hide female turian, krogan or Salarians.....none at all. And hopefully they don't just reuse the male models and slap a bunch of robes on them and say "dat looks good." Every race and gender should have unique models.I disagree. Not all creatures have sexual dimorphism and the same would logically apply to aliens. What they did with Hanar, Krogan, Salarian, etc made sense since they are inspired by creatures that don't have sexual dimorphism. Doing that is better than say slapping boobs on them.
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Post by Phantom on Nov 12, 2016 2:13:14 GMT
Remember that Asari are culturally monogendered(they think in a singular gender not the more traditional binary route we are used too) but biologically female that breeds thru pathno-genesis.
Either the Khet are asexual in the sense they bud like earthworms, binary(humans and majority of mass effect species) or biologically female that breed thru pathno-genesis. Potentially they are using cloning technology to breed, it is alright for Bioware to have them biologically unique from other species but as long as it makes context how they function on a more biological methods. I do assume they are biological in a traditional sense, so somehow they keep producing their race in a biological sense is needed.
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Post by thedarkprince on Nov 12, 2016 2:15:16 GMT
Pretty much this. I hate when Bioware keeps adding new races, or plans to, only to have 1 gender shown. That just comes off as lazy. I just wonder how many female aliens will Andromeda have in general? No excuse to hide female turian, krogan or Salarians.....none at all. And hopefully they don't just reuse the male models and slap a bunch of robes on them and say "dat looks good." Every race and gender should have unique models.I disagree. Not all creatures have sexual dimorphism and the same would logically apply to aliens. What they did with Hanar, Krogan, Salarian, etc made sense since they are inspired by creatures that don't have sexual dimorphism. Doing that is better than say slapping boobs on them. Agreed. Only problem is that Bioware themselves said they didn't add females because they didn't have time to add their models in the first 2 games. So to wait until the third game and show the females, only to have them look just like the males would be bullshit. They wanted them to look unique, but scrapped it and just took the easy way out by reusing the male models.
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Post by RageUnderFire on Nov 12, 2016 4:12:18 GMT
I strongly, strongly hope BioWare don't repeat past mistakes by introducing a new alien species, and only showing one gender, completey ignoring the other with some trite lore excuse (salarians, turians, krogan). If they chose to introduce another new race like the asari, fine, but make it clear the species is mono gendered. But if the species is built up of both male and female, there is no excuse for revealing the other gender three games later, in a DLC many won't play. so this why we got an all female race in the asari. Bioware knew they had to fill the gender quota in the name of equality Excellent play on their part because the Asari design is much more feminine than a Salarian, Turian, or Krogan could ever be.
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Post by TheChosenOne on Nov 12, 2016 5:09:37 GMT
Female Khets?
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Nov 12, 2016 6:32:45 GMT
If the khet have multiple genders then I'd like to see all of them.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Nov 12, 2016 7:07:08 GMT
Will we see any? Will they be hermaphrodites with no specific gender? Similar to the Protheans everything we've seen so far looks overwhelmingly male. The Khet have very masculine physiques and voices. They might look masculine to you (I don't really see it)... based on a human. Why should that be taken into account when looking at an alien (or even other Earth animals)? For all we know, all of the Kett we've seen are female, or something else. Or we've seen both already. I strongly, strongly hope BioWare don't repeat past mistakes by introducing a new alien species, and only showing one gender, completey ignoring the other with some trite lore excuse (salarians, turians, krogan). If they chose to introduce another new race like the asari, fine, but make it clear the species is mono gendered. But if the species is built up of both male and female, there is no excuse for revealing the other gender three games later, in a DLC many won't play. I can't agree with this more It's just plain sad that it took until the third game to see any female turians, salarians, or krogan, and only 1 salarian and krogan, and only 1 turian character in a DLC! Made even more odd since only the turian even looks different than the males... And we still haven't seen any batarians, drell, etc. and at this point likely never will. The only species they did well with was the quarians, which rather coincidentally needed males to be added instead... Pretty much this. I hate when Bioware keeps adding new races, or plans to, only to have 1 gender shown. That just comes off as lazy. I just wonder how many female aliens will Andromeda have in general? No excuse to hide female turian, krogan or Salarians.....none at all. And hopefully they don't just reuse the male models and slap a bunch of robes on them and say "dat looks good." Every race and gender should have unique models.I disagree. Not all creatures have sexual dimorphism and the same would logically apply to aliens. What they did with Hanar, Krogan, Salarian, etc made sense since they are inspired by creatures that don't have sexual dimorphism. Doing that is better than say slapping boobs on them. Exactly. I shake my head at adding boobs and other human feminine features onto alien females, especially lizard-types. Like, what? Hell, I think they should go further and not necessarily have different voices between the males and females of some alien species, though that's never going to happen. Neither is reversing traits on aliens that would be considered masculine or feminine on humans, like making the females bulkier/larger, but it would be a breath of fresh air and realism. I disagree. Not all creatures have sexual dimorphism and the same would logically apply to aliens. What they did with Hanar, Krogan, Salarian, etc made sense since they are inspired by creatures that don't have sexual dimorphism. Doing that is better than say slapping boobs on them. Agreed. Only problem is that Bioware themselves said they didn't add females because they didn't have time to add their models in the first 2 games. So to wait until the third game and show the females, only to have them look just like the males would be bullshit. They wanted them to look unique, but scrapped it and just took the easy way out by reusing the male models. Which is the lamest excuse I've ever heard, considering they ended up not even making different models for krogan and salarians, but even if they did, it's literally one model to create. One. Used for every female, since the males all share one body as well. They couldn't even do that? Give me a break And another thing. Say we buy the excuse that they couldn't make 2 models, and that they needed to in the first place. Okay, so then why is it always the females who we never see? Would people think it would be odd not to see any males, but not notice if we didn't see females? Come on. (Strangely, Dragon Age had the same problem with Qunari...) So yeah, please do better with this going forward
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 12, 2016 7:45:46 GMT
I disagree. Not all creatures have sexual dimorphism and the same would logically apply to aliens. What they did with Hanar, Krogan, Salarian, etc made sense since they are inspired by creatures that don't have sexual dimorphism. Doing that is better than say slapping boobs on them. Exactly. I shake my head at adding boobs and other human feminine features onto alien females, especially lizard-types. Like, what? Hell, I think they should go further and not necessarily have different voices between the males and females of some alien species, though that's never going to happen. Neither is reversing traits on aliens that would be considered masculine or feminine on humans, like making the females bulkier/larger, but it would be a breath of fresh air and realism. I could see them doing reverse traits actually. For example, if they had a true avian species. Many kinds of birds have the males be the colorful beautiful ones where the females are the duller plainer ones. And other kinds of birds, like birds of prey, have a reverse sexual dimorphism where the females are larger than the males.
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Post by nonstop on Nov 12, 2016 15:48:25 GMT
They might look masculine to you (I don't really see it)... based on a human. Why should that be taken into account when looking at an alien (or even other Earth animals)? For all we know, all of the Kett we've seen are female, or something else. Or we've seen both already. (snip) Exactly. I shake my head at adding boobs and other human feminine features onto alien females, especially lizard-types. Like, what? Hell, I think they should go further and not necessarily have different voices between the males and females of some alien species, though that's never going to happen. Neither is reversing traits on aliens that would be considered masculine or feminine on humans, like making the females bulkier/larger, but it would be a breath of fresh air and realism. I agree with you here, but just something to add to the first point: as we're playing the game from a human perspective, we're going to bring human biases on gender and sex to aliens. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck etc. So if the Kett look masculine by human standards and speak with male voices, then it would seem a bit cheap for Bioware to say "oh yeah, they're actually both male and female, they just look and sound the same." As you and others have pointed out, it always seems to be male that is the "default" alien (except for asari), so it would be nice either to have some sexual dimorphism or make it truly ambiguous. I really like the Selonians in SWTOR - most of them are female, I believe, but it's not something you could tell just by looking at them or listening to their voices.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Nov 12, 2016 15:51:38 GMT
Andromeda needs to have CHILDREN too. Especially when you want to colonize and populate a new galaxy, you better start having children soon. I want to see the arks full of kids all ages.
(No wonder Shepard was so devastated about the boy dying. The reapers killed the only child in the Milky Way!)
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Post by Wheeljack on Nov 12, 2016 19:34:16 GMT
Just gonna drop this here. Spent twenty minutes trying to find it again. I literally registered just to share this.
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 12, 2016 19:39:17 GMT
Maybe he's the apex sex.
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Post by Pounce de León on Nov 12, 2016 19:49:10 GMT
Maybe they are hybrid (i.e. hemophrodious?)
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Post by nonstop on Nov 12, 2016 20:30:24 GMT
Just gonna drop this here. Spent twenty minutes trying to find it again. I literally registered just to share this. First of all, welcome! Thanks for posting that, that's interesting. It now occurs to me that the voice-over might not necessarily be the voice of the Kett in the trailer. It could be somebody else speaking and just cut to look like it's the Kett (if indeed the alien in question is a Kett). As far as I can tell, this is what he says in the trailer: "This is incredible." "I have a bad feeling." (usually said by the good guys in Star Wars?) "Now I know what makes you special." (Actually, the more I listen to this, the more it sounds like a different voice than the first two lines. And it sounds like it might come through a mask or something - I got a kinda Kylo Ren vibe from it. Any thoughts?) It would disappoint me, however, if they tried to cop out by saying the Kett didn't have a gender or were both genders or whatever and yet still used an obvious male voice and features. If they truly want to go down the ambiguous route, I'd rather they used a more neutral voice, like the selonians in the video above, than go down the aforementioned "male-as-default" route. Hopefully that's not the case.
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Post by swagmaster97 on Nov 12, 2016 20:34:03 GMT
Bioware has always been good at ensuring that the faceless goons I kill, have always included a decent percentage of females (unlike say TLOU, COD, etc...). Heck, even the Darkspawn had broodmothers.
So I suspect the Khet will also include females, though whether or not there will be any significant differences in appearance/abilities/social standing among the Khet remains to be seen.
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Post by bshep on Nov 12, 2016 20:41:18 GMT
I don't think they can use that excuse anymore to not make changes between both genres in the Andromeda species.
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Post by Wheeljack on Nov 12, 2016 21:20:13 GMT
The gameinformer article gives a full frontal pic of a Khet who I believe to be male. Being full frontal, it's hard to say if there's any sort of hoop like thing on the back of his head, but looking at the other one with a hoop, I think you'd be able to see something of it if it was there. That may be the difference right there. (Or maybe we're looking at two factions of the same race that have been separated for so long they have different features now. That would be interesting in its own right.)
I may need to go watch the trailers again.
Edit: Yeah, the one shot I paused at had a Khet with a solid protrusion off the back of the head as opposed to a hoop.
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