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Post by dagr on Nov 13, 2016 22:26:53 GMT
What do you guys think is the actual situation in Andromeda is? It's about 10 times bigger than the Milky Way and there wasn't any Reapers around to do a spring cleaning every 50k years. There should have been a lot of events, wars and e.t.c. And if Catalyst is right a lot of AIs, a some point or even now.
It's not like when we arrive at the Andromeda we meet a delegation of aliens and "Yay! Now the plot can begin!"
My theory is that we arrive at not overly populated part of the galaxy. Meet some races. After (maybe in a sequel). We discover that there are empires and alien alliances that cover the rest of the galaxy. Different races from the Milky Way will forge their own alliances and drift apart more and more after a time or even side with powers that in war with each other.
It would be very interesting to see how such a small population a species will blend with races of Andromeda, because I don't a scenario where they become a mayor player in the galaxy anytime soon. Playing isolation is kinda boring considering the alternative scenarios. Unless ME:A2 will take place in a century or 2.
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Post by jackievakarian on Nov 13, 2016 23:11:10 GMT
Actually, the Andromeda galaxy is about twice as big as the Milky Way. The Milky Way is about 100,000-110,000 light years across and the Andromeda Galaxy is about 220,000 light years across.
Another possibility is that the Milky Way races will stick together before attempting to forge their own alliances with the races of Andromeda.
Who the fuck said the Milky Way races were trying to be isolationists? The Milky Way races are trying to find a new home for themselves, so they could use help and alliances with the Andromeda races. That sounds hella like the opposite of isolationist.
There could likely be major distrust and cultural tensions as everyone tries to figure out where they stand or what kind of dangers there are.
We don't even know if there will be a ME:A2. And even then, it sounds like shit will definitely go down in ME: A.
Maybe the Kett are like Protheans and have subjugated several other races and they rule the Andromeda galaxy.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 13, 2016 23:28:39 GMT
It's not like when we arrive at the Andromeda we meet a delegation of aliens and "Yay! Now the plot can begin!" Well, judging by glimpses from trailer this actually could be the case. Though this delegation may not be the friendliest kind. I'd expect to see new homeworlds for all major MW species in MEA2. How BW will get to it is another question. Whether skip a lot of time or just say that they had millions of genetic samples and mass grew them to fully colonize a planet.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 14, 2016 0:37:07 GMT
Considerign the Council experience, the fact that the possibility of a trade route between Andromeda and the MW is considered possible, and the Nexus ad the operative center, it's likely the MW species plan to stand as a united front in Andromeda. Not that things might not change in the future, but I personally doubt it will on this point.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 1:13:04 GMT
The Heleus Cluster is a single star cluster, so we're talking about a small stellar neighborhood for this game. (As if Mass Effect had been set entirely in the Hades Gamma cluster, for instance.) Obviously, the detail will be turned up to 10 11. This cluster is supposed to be on the fringes of Andromeda, I believe. So, as you said, we may not get a deep-dive into the state of the entire galaxy.
One thing I've mentioned before that no one seems to be talking about is the possibility that the species of the Heleus Cluster may not be acquainted with mass effect technology. Technology is not a straight line. It's not unreasonable to think that they may not have discovered a means to travel beyond their own local cluster, yet; and may use other means to achieve FTL travel. (This assumes some of them have achieved FTL travel, which seems a safe assumption, given our arms race with the Kett.) Our introducing mass effect technology to the Heleus Cluster could be a very big deal, if the writers chose to make it such.
I imagine any galactic secret, threat, or whatever that we discover will be linked to the Remnant, as they seem to be the "hyper-advanced species from the past". I have no idea where we will be centuries from now, though the intent of the Ai seems to be to connect Andromeda with the Milky Way, eventually. Perhaps future games, given enough time, would feature such a connected setting?
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 14, 2016 7:53:51 GMT
Perhaps future games, given enough time, would feature such a connected setting? Run away from retconning endings to another galaxy, only to do it one game later? "Trade route" is probably just a sweet talk for (apparently not so smart) colonists, they are being sent there forever and they are there alone. They don't have the technology for building a Mass Relay and who on Earth would order anything from another galaxy with six centuries delivery time.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 14, 2016 15:32:42 GMT
Perhaps future games, given enough time, would feature such a connected setting? Run away from retconning endings to another galaxy, only to do it one game later? "Trade route" is probably just a sweet talk for (apparently not so smart) colonists, they are being sent there forever and they are there alone. They don't have the technology for building a Mass Relay and who on Earth would order anything from another galaxy with six centuries delivery time. I'm thinking they might figure we'd let up on the ME3 endings, given enough time. That maybe even picking one would be okay? They could find all sorts of space magic/fancy remnant tech to aid in the construction of a relay. Mac said there'd be no communication with home "in this game". Maybe in the future, though, since they've had 600 years to advance as we've been sleeping, they could call, drop in, or who knows what? Still, that was all mostly just playing along with the guy's/gal's post to whom I was replying. I agree with you that the writers should, and likely would, be in no hurry to return home to the Milky Way. Andromeda should suit there needs just fine for quite some time. We're only visiting a single star cluster on the edge of the galaxy. Not having a functional relay network in the beginning of the game really controls the pace of discovery. Space is so huge, it's not really an issue, but it could feel like a big deal if and when we finally made it further into the galaxy.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 14, 2016 17:56:43 GMT
Perhaps future games, given enough time, would feature such a connected setting? Run away from retconning endings to another galaxy, only to do it one game later? "Trade route" is probably just a sweet talk for (apparently not so smart) colonists, they are being sent there forever and they are there alone. They don't have the technology for building a Mass Relay and who on Earth would order anything from another galaxy with six centuries delivery time. So quick to dismiss new technology possibly being developed over the 600 years it took the ARKs to get to Andromeda....anything could happen in ME:A2 - even the 3 endings could be written away (somehow) with the passage of time possibly accounting for a way to do it. My prediction: ME:A2 either starts with, or ends with the MW connecting back with Andromeda. We're half a decade away from that though, so who knows lol XD
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 14, 2016 18:04:22 GMT
Run away from retconning endings to another galaxy, only to do it one game later? "Trade route" is probably just a sweet talk for (apparently not so smart) colonists, they are being sent there forever and they are there alone. They don't have the technology for building a Mass Relay and who on Earth would order anything from another galaxy with six centuries delivery time. So quick to dismiss new technology possibly being developed over the 600 years it took the ARKs to get to Andromeda....anything could happen in ME:A2 - even the 3 endings could be written away (somehow) with the passage of time possibly accounting for a way to do it. My prediction: ME:A2 either starts with, or ends with the MW connecting back with Andromeda. We're half a decade away from that though, so who knows lol XD I think it's problematic to develop anything while being frozen. If endings are to be retconed (somehow) there is no point to connect anything, just switch back to MW and that's it.
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Post by dagr on Nov 14, 2016 20:22:34 GMT
Who the fuck said the Milky Way races were trying to be isolationists? The Milky Way races are trying to find a new home for themselves, so they could use help and alliances with the Andromeda races. That sounds hella like the opposite of isolationist. What I meant was, considering their small numbers/resources (if we compare them with other aliens who might possible control X% of a galaxy), MW species will try not to spread alot and to avoid unwanted attention from possible powerhouses of the new galaxy. So waiting out for a century or two, to rebuild and secure themself. That what I meant by saying "will become isolationist". For example: The first Asari born on the Andromeda will become mother herself only after *triple digit number* of years. In M.E. humans survived the first contact because they were lucky enought to have piece loving democratic "enemy" to deal with. Politics and trade sorted out this mess. And they concentrated alot on the military before and after activating Chrono Mass Relay. This time around, there are 3-5 big ships with population 1-3 millions max (counting every species) vs unknow galaxy. I, personally would lay low for a while as much as possile, considering ME:A's plot circumstances.
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Post by Ivory Samoan on Nov 15, 2016 1:41:09 GMT
So quick to dismiss new technology possibly being developed over the 600 years it took the ARKs to get to Andromeda....anything could happen in ME:A2 - even the 3 endings could be written away (somehow) with the passage of time possibly accounting for a way to do it. My prediction: ME:A2 either starts with, or ends with the MW connecting back with Andromeda. We're half a decade away from that though, so who knows lol XD I think it's problematic to develop anything while being frozen. If endings are to be retconed (somehow) there is no point to connect anything, just switch back to MW and that's it. I'm so down to swing back to the MW after 2 or so ME:A additions.... I'll be in my 40s by then, so hopefully have a 70" 10KTV in a space lounge to play them on
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