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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 9:43:29 GMT
I have a theory (slim ray of hope) that at the very least, everyone will get 2 romance options.
I think for straight men Cora will be an exclusive, and PeeBee, who will also be available for lesbians as well.
Straight women I think there may be an alien exclusive, Drack (?) or this mysterious Jaal, and Liam, who also (BETTER BE) is available for gay men.
Lesbians PeeBee, and Vetra as an exclusive.
And gay men Liam (PLEASE BIOWARE) and Reyes.
That's only seven and still leaves more NPCs, crewmembers and potential "flings" as well to add to the number that BioWare touts as more than any other game they've done yet. As it stands, I would be happy with just Liam and Reyes, and maybe an alien squadmate.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 11:56:37 GMT
I think chances are better that the aliens (maybe Peebee and Jaal) will be story relevant, so I actually hope, those are our bisexual romance options. Plus, I'm not that much into Liam for now.
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Post by Elsariel on Jan 17, 2017 16:22:23 GMT
Kaido is your first squadmates/friend in Masss Effect. Liam seems to be getting off to the same start (though they sound different in temperament, and personality, but similar in morals). Perhaps it is coincidence, or they are paying respect to our first "lawful good sidekick guy". Let hope they will not make Scott have to wait 3 game before he can express his feeling to him. Oh my god... this would irk me so much. I'm spoiled with Dragon Age now so I hope to have a full-fledged romance in-game!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2017 16:37:56 GMT
Kaido is your first squadmates/friend in Masss Effect. Liam seems to be getting off to the same start (though they sound different in temperament, and personality, but similar in morals). Perhaps it is coincidence, or they are paying respect to our first "lawful good sidekick guy". Let hope they will not make Scott have to wait 3 game before he can express his feeling to him. And then say, "Well Scott is a predefined character and he's just not gay. Sorry! Oh, Sarah? Yeah, she's totally any sexuality you want. But Scott? Definitely straight. Since he's our character....." Anyway, I'm just bracing for a straight Liam. It's kind of tradition in Bioware games: Carth, Kaidan (ME1), Alistair, Jacob, Carver, Vega, Solas, Varric, all of the starting male SWTOR companions...... Whenever they give you a starting male companion right from the hop, he's straight. Without exception (well, with the notable exception of Kaidan who was bisexual, but 'in the closet' at the time, i.e. they didn't decide he was bisexual yet at that point) . Although I suppose there's always a first, right?
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Post by Pon.ee on Jan 17, 2017 17:21:50 GMT
I can't help but wonder if they're hinting at something by making a shout-out to Kaidan's face model. At least I hope they are. That I'm not going to like his hair?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2017 0:17:49 GMT
Let hope they will not make Scott have to wait 3 game before he can express his feeling to him. And then say, "Well Scott is a predefined character and he's just not gay. Sorry! Oh, Sarah? Yeah, she's totally any sexuality you want. But Scott? Definitely straight. Since he's our character....." Anyway, I'm just bracing for a straight Liam. It's kind of tradition in Bioware games: Carth, Kaidan (ME1), Alistair, Jacob, Carver, Vega, Solas, Varric, all of the starting male SWTOR companions...... Whenever they give you a starting male companion right from the hop, he's straight. Without exception (well, with the notable exception of Kaidan who was bisexual, but 'in the closet' at the time, i.e. they didn't decide he was bisexual yet at that point) . Although I suppose there's always a first, right? *BioWare please break this tradition, BioWare please break this tradition, BioWare please break this tradition* Oh for goodness sakes I don't even know what the chap looks like and I already know that there is going to be no one else in the game my Scott Ryder will be interested in romancing
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 18, 2017 4:13:43 GMT
Well, If Liam have to be straight then at least ...
1. Allow G.Scott to tell the truth to Liam let us see how Liam react. 2. Unique story/friendship between Scott&Liam if Scott is Gay. I alway love to see story about GayMan who have straight man as best friend. 3. Some amazing/joke banter and conversation between them that relate to Scott feeling and the convo that happen when Scott find the one that love him back. Plus some darkside option hehe
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Post by vallixas on Jan 19, 2017 16:17:46 GMT
Better question is why would anyone even WANT to romance the starting human companions? They're always super boring compared to the rest. I'm not a fan of characters who are only considered good because of the romance quality like Kaidan/Ash in ME. All they had going for them as characters was romance potential. They weren't developed much at all beyond that. Anyway about Peebee I hope she's not so forced into the story as Liara was. Because if PeeBee turns out anything like Sera as I fear she will I would like the option to exclude her from everything lol
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 19, 2017 16:40:37 GMT
Better question is why would anyone even WANT to romance the starting human companions? They're always super boring compared to the rest. I'm not a fan of characters who are only considered good because of the romance quality like Kaidan/Ash in ME. All they had going for them as characters was romance potential. They weren't developed much at all beyond that. Anyway about Peebee I hope she's not so forced into the story as Liara was. Because if PeeBee turns out anything like Sera as I fear she will I would like the option to exclude her from everything lol Well, people that romance Miranda may disagree. (those that romanced Jacob may agree).
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Post by vallixas on Jan 19, 2017 16:43:01 GMT
Better question is why would anyone even WANT to romance the starting human companions? They're always super boring compared to the rest. I'm not a fan of characters who are only considered good because of the romance quality like Kaidan/Ash in ME. All they had going for them as characters was romance potential. They weren't developed much at all beyond that. Anyway about Peebee I hope she's not so forced into the story as Liara was. Because if PeeBee turns out anything like Sera as I fear she will I would like the option to exclude her from everything lol Well, people that romance Miranda may disagree. (those that romanced Jacob may agree). Ok Miranda was a tiny exception....but Jacob, Kaidan and Ashley are irredeemable. Not only their characterization but how the romances were handeled in 3. "Oh i've doubted your decisions and didn't have your back for one full game and a half despite you saving the world twice, but now I realize I actually loved you". lol.
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 19, 2017 16:53:48 GMT
Well, people that romance Miranda may disagree. (those that romanced Jacob may agree). Ok Miranda was a tiny exception....but Jacob, Kaidan and Ashley are irredeemable. Not only their characterization but how the romances were handeled in 3. "Oh i've doubted your decisions and didn't have your back for one full game and a half despite you saving the world twice, but now I realize I actually loved you". lol. I'm a bit disappointed that VS didn't trusted me in me2, "Oh, I saved the galaxy and had your back, but no, you can't trust me, fine I will create my own crew with killers and weapon."
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Post by lightdrago3 on Jan 19, 2017 20:44:55 GMT
Well, people that romance Miranda may disagree. (those that romanced Jacob may agree). Ok Miranda was a tiny exception....but Jacob, Kaidan and Ashley are irredeemable. Not only their characterization but how the romances were handeled in 3. "Oh i've doubted your decisions and didn't have your back for one full game and a half despite you saving the world twice, but now I realize I actually loved you". lol. Maybe because it was between him and Steve Cortez? Not exactly many options to choose from. I don't know, but I get why they acted like that. Did it get jarring? Sure. But to be fair you did work with a terrorist group willingly after coming back from the dead, so their suspicions aren't exactly unfounded. I would call it a bit of an overreaction. And I thought Jack was a nice human romance as well. It's all pretty subjective of who has the best romance.
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 19, 2017 20:50:16 GMT
Ok Miranda was a tiny exception....but Jacob, Kaidan and Ashley are irredeemable. Not only their characterization but how the romances were handeled in 3. "Oh i've doubted your decisions and didn't have your back for one full game and a half despite you saving the world twice, but now I realize I actually loved you". lol. Maybe because it was between him and Steve Cortez? Not exactly many options to choose from. I don't know, but I get why they acted like that. Did it get jarring? Sure. But to be fair you did work with a terrorist group willingly after coming back from the dead, so they're suspicions aren't exactly unfounded. I would call it a bit of an overreaction. And I thought Jack was a nice human romance as well. It's all pretty subjective of who has the best romance. I can see that VS are a bit skeptic, but they was a bit too much. He only talked about the first squad members. Jack comes in later. And for me Jack is the only li in the mass effect trilogy, I'm still a bit miffed that they didn't let her save my ass in the citadel DLC.
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Post by lightdrago3 on Jan 19, 2017 20:55:50 GMT
Maybe because it was between him and Steve Cortez? Not exactly many options to choose from. I don't know, but I get why they acted like that. Did it get jarring? Sure. But to be fair you did work with a terrorist group willingly after coming back from the dead, so they're suspicions aren't exactly unfounded. I would call it a bit of an overreaction. And I thought Jack was a nice human romance as well. It's all pretty subjective of who has the best romance. I can see that VS are a bit skeptic, but they was a bit too much. He only talked about the first squad members. Jack comes in later. And for me Jack is the only li in the mass effect trilogy, I'm still a bit miffed that they didn't let her save my ass in the citadel DLC. I agree. They did overreact a bit much, but with the galaxy in peril, and with a terrorist group being even sketchier than ever, some may have had the same reaction. Ah, I missed the starting companion part. I was still satisfied with Kaidan, as he was technically a starting companion in 3 (despite the extreme lack of options). And many people liked the Miranda romance. I'm not quite sure where people stand with Ashley, and nobody likes Jacob's. I'm still curious about Liam, and with what I heard about him so far, I kind of want my Scott to romance him.
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Post by sageoflife on Jan 19, 2017 21:07:30 GMT
Ok Miranda was a tiny exception....but Jacob, Kaidan and Ashley are irredeemable. Not only their characterization but how the romances were handeled in 3. "Oh i've doubted your decisions and didn't have your back for one full game and a half despite you saving the world twice, but now I realize I actually loved you". lol. Maybe because it was between him and Steve Cortez? Not exactly many options to choose from. I don't know, but I get why they acted like that. Did it get jarring? Sure. But to be fair you did work with a terrorist group willingly after coming back from the dead, so they're suspicions aren't exactly unfounded. I would call it a bit of an overreaction. Plus Kaidan/Ashley were under the impression that Shepard's death had been faked, not that s/he had been brought back (thanks a lot, Liara). That had a lot to do with it and it amazes me that so many players missed that. And Cerberus did end up doing everything Kaidan/Ashley warned about.
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 20, 2017 3:36:20 GMT
Better question is why would anyone even WANT to romance the starting human companions? They're always super boring compared to the rest. I'm not a fan of characters who are only considered good because of the romance quality like Kaidan/Ash in ME. All they had going for them as characters was romance potential. They weren't developed much at all beyond that. Anyway about Peebee I hope she's not so forced into the story as Liara was. Because if PeeBee turns out anything like Sera as I fear she will I would like the option to exclude her from everything lol Because I like human and human male lover for Male PC is somewhat rare in ME universe. Plus I don't think Kaidan is boring, and I like good guy (not perfect but good enough) .... also love his voice and his class (Magic on space YES!). I really hope Liam/Cora will not be Kaidan/Ashley 2.0 in term of Individual.
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Post by Solas on Jan 20, 2017 4:49:13 GMT
maybe he's afro-latinx?
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Post by marcosty on Jan 20, 2017 17:13:06 GMT
Considering the popularity of Luciano Costa and the MEA team having a brazilian with the surname Costa, I guess it's possibly to him be part brazilian.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2017 3:42:23 GMT
So is Liam's face the big secret that won't be revealed till half way through the game? I thought we'd know more about the companions this close to launch.
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 21, 2017 6:08:27 GMT
So is Liam's face the big secret that won't be revealed till half way through the game? I thought we'd know more about the companions this close to launch. He's Ryder first companion, I think we will see his face in first 10 minute of MEA. Dev. said we will know more about him (and Cora) before game release. I just don't expect to wait this long. (other 3 race already show clear face to US).
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Post by Gilsa on Jan 21, 2017 23:22:09 GMT
I wanted to find Kaidan ASAP in ME2 so I remember how it played out. Even if *I* asked Anderson about him or looked all over the Citadel or whatever, it didn't matter because *Shepard* didn't look for him that hard. Shepard built the team and found Garrus and Liara and can even show up with them on Horizon. So from that perspective, it did come across as Shepard not caring that much about the relationship. The VS reaction made sense in that context. I was even tsk-tsking Shepard, thinking she really dropped the ball with Kaidan. That whole scene was a plot hammer, obviously, so I did not blame either VS for their stage exit.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2017 0:06:48 GMT
I wanted to find Kaidan ASAP in ME2 so I remember how it played out. Even if *I* asked Anderson about him or looked all over the Citadel or whatever, it didn't matter because *Shepard* didn't look for him that hard. Shepard built the team and found Garrus and Liara and can even show up with them on Horizon. So from that perspective, it did come across as Shepard not caring that much about the relationship. The VS reaction made sense in that context. I was even tsk-tsking Shepard, thinking she really dropped the ball with Kaidan. That whole scene was a plot hammer, obviously, so I did not blame either VS for their stage exit. Yeah, the VS gets a lot of flack for being too untrustworthy, but I completely get where they are coming from, especially the how "Is that all you can say after all these years... etc." part. Shepard should have shown the same care for the VS as he did Liara and the others, who he automatically hugs regardless of whether you romanced her or not. I'm actually kind of hoping for more organic reactions from our new protagonist. Like not every way he reacts towards squadmates is what we direct him to, or control, or pick given the option. Sometimes just a natural, casual reaction to talking or meeting or greeting the new squadmates in whatever different context or scenario. And for goodness sakes the waiting game for Liam's face reveal is driving me insane
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Post by Sifr on Jan 22, 2017 0:25:19 GMT
Kaidan and Ash are both military though, so it would have been rather unprofessional to attempt to hug either of them on Horizon, especially since Shepard is their former commanding officer. Liara on the other hand is a civilian and was never under Shepard's command, so there wasn't any risk of potential fraternisation by hugging her on Illium.
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Post by mrjack on Jan 22, 2017 0:56:15 GMT
Bit late here but regarding Liam's nationality/ethnicity. I went to uni with a girl with the last name Da Costa. She was born in England but her dad's family was Angolan-Portugese and she was a light skinned black girl. She didn't have any Indo-American blood, just African and European, so she wasn't really Latina as such. I remember her having really beautiful curly hair.
Maybe Liam will be the same.
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Post by marcosty on Jan 22, 2017 2:32:01 GMT
Bit late here but regarding Liam's nationality/ethnicity. I went to uni with a girl with the last name Da Costa. She was born in England but her dad's family was Angolan-Portugese and she was a light skinned black girl. She didn't have any Indo-American blood, just African and European, so she wasn't really Latina as such. I remember her having really beautiful curly hair. Maybe Liam will be the same. With two brazilians who worked with Mass Effect having the Costa surname, and the country where Costa is most commum by far is Brazil, i would guess that he is more probably british-brazilian(and with Mass Effect being the first ME game being translated to portuguese..) And Latin America is a cultural sphere of Brazil, Hispanic America and French Caribeean, so a latino with any ethnicity/blood is possible.
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