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Post by elanor on Jan 22, 2017 9:40:02 GMT
I wanted to find Kaidan ASAP in ME2 so I remember how it played out. Even if *I* asked Anderson about him or looked all over the Citadel or whatever, it didn't matter because *Shepard* didn't look for him that hard. Shepard built the team and found Garrus and Liara and can even show up with them on Horizon. So from that perspective, it did come across as Shepard not caring that much about the relationship. The VS reaction made sense in that context. I was even tsk-tsking Shepard, thinking she really dropped the ball with Kaidan. That whole scene was a plot hammer, obviously, so I did not blame either VS for their stage exit. I was looking for Kaidan too in ME2. Horizon was really emotional plot twist for me. But after years of waiting for ME3 emotions fade away so making up wiht him wasnt't that much engaging. I'm really waiting for some news about Liam because he's probably a LI. Screenshot with he's face would be nice.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 22, 2017 11:47:29 GMT
I just want Kaidan back I just finished ME3 first time
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Post by vallixas on Jan 22, 2017 23:04:00 GMT
Better question is why would anyone even WANT to romance the starting human companions? They're always super boring compared to the rest. I'm not a fan of characters who are only considered good because of the romance quality like Kaidan/Ash in ME. All they had going for them as characters was romance potential. They weren't developed much at all beyond that. Anyway about Peebee I hope she's not so forced into the story as Liara was. Because if PeeBee turns out anything like Sera as I fear she will I would like the option to exclude her from everything lol Because I like human and human male lover for Male PC is somewhat rare in ME universe. Plus I don't think Kaidan is boring, and I like good guy (not perfect but good enough) .... also love his voice and his class (Magic on space YES!). I really hope Liam/Cora will not be Kaidan/Ashley 2.0 in term of Individual. Really? they treated him like a throwaway character throughout the series and didn't really develop his character much. James Vega in one game gave us more backstory and personality than Kaidan in 3 games. I always knew him as "Headache guy". Even in ME3 his dialogue during missions could be summed up as "wow would ya look at that" and "oh so you two know each other?" never really anything interesting. I guess he's decent if you romance him, otherwise he's very forgettable compared to the rest of the cast. I hated Ashley but saved her instead just because she was slightly more entertaining, though I replayed the trilogy saved Kaidan, and he's probably better in ME3. The problem with both Ashley and Kaidan was that there was really nothing there beyond the surface. I think a lot of that stems from the fact that besides a few personality quirks they are essentially the same character. You kill one, and the one you spared takes the place of the one dead. Same dialogue responses and all. This imo hurt their development as characters, because they were so fixed on this path from the very beginning. So lets hope that Liam and Cora have been developed differently. Lets hope they are not templates made to take the place of the one killed off, and instead are unique characters.
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Post by elanor on Jan 23, 2017 17:45:12 GMT
I hope Liam will be more interesting than Kaidan. I liked Kaidan but something was missing. Eh, still nothing new about squadmates...
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Post by jrpN7 on Jan 24, 2017 3:40:07 GMT
I immediately had my eyes on Liam for my broRyder's LI. Buuut, I'm a bit worried that Liam is going to be the only male human option for gay broRyder... and if Liam turns out to be subpar, then I'm gonna flip. I must have my space boyfriends!!!1
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Post by swagmaster97 on Jan 24, 2017 4:31:26 GMT
Do not give up HOPE! I'm sure someday soon we'll see something new about Liambro, someday... I mean we're down to less than two months until launch. There is only so much longer that Bioware will remain semi-silent.
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Post by jediguardian on Jan 24, 2017 6:46:20 GMT
I immediately had my eyes on Liam for my broRyder's LI. Buuut, I'm a bit worried that Liam is going to be the only male human option for gay broRyder... and if Liam turns out to be subpar, then I'm gonna flip. I must have my space boyfriends!!!1 I really hope we will have Male Human to romance more than One. In ME3 we have 2 option and they said MEA will have more romance option than previous game. That should include Human option for Scott too (please).
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Post by fantasticfantasy on Jan 24, 2017 6:48:41 GMT
It's weird that there's a character who is also Black, British and has the same first name as me. I really hope he's a great character.
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Post by marcosty on Jan 24, 2017 8:37:42 GMT
It's weird that there's a character who is also Black, British and has the same first name as me. I really hope he's a great character. Are you also part brazilian by any means?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 11:20:11 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 17:49:17 GMT
It's weird that there's a character who is also Black, British and has the same first name as me. I really hope he's a great character. I just hope he's not Koth Vortena 2.0. From what we heard, it sounds a bit like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2017 20:29:54 GMT
At least we know we won't have to wait until launch to see his face Commander Shepard @2185normanysr2 please show us Cora and Liam. Pllllleeeaaase, or just tell us if we will get to see them b4 launch. The anticipation is 2 much!
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon You will see them before launch.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 1:04:49 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead. Cause apparently its too much to ask that Scott (or indeed a male protagonist) has a human male squadmate romance option. Sorry, I don't just want an NPC. Cortez was great, but Kaidan being a squadmate meant more content and better writing personally. Though we only had this option two games later with 1/3 of the content missing, which isn't good, or equal, enough. *sighs* I'll just stay here waiting for at least Liam's face reveal, before settling into the disappointment that he will be exclusive for Sara media.giphy.com/media/UxREcFThpSEqk/giphy.gif
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Post by swagmaster97 on Jan 25, 2017 1:20:48 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead. Probably true. Also of note, during the GameAwards gameplay trailer they seemed to make a point of showing Sara & Liam together. Reminds me of Alistair a bit. Both are younger British dudes with a history in law enforcement (Liam is an ex-police officer, Alistair was a Templar/magic police intiate). Both are members of the special group you belong to (Grey Wardens for Alistair, Pathfinder team for Liam). And both of them start the game trying to survive a really, really bad situation with you (Habitat-7 for Liam/Ryder, Ostagar for Alistair/the Warden). Alistair was quite popular guy/waifu. Makes sense that he would be an inspiration for the writers at Bioware (his writer penned Aveline & Sera). Though I doubt they will be carbon copies of each other.
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Post by jrpN7 on Jan 25, 2017 3:56:53 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead. Mmm, maybe. If so, I'd be a bit bummed because there's nothing better than taking your LI with you on missions, to have your back, see what you see, experience what you experience... having them be back on the ship the whole time you're pwning would be rough in my books. That said, I hope Liam or another gay male human squadmate will be options for broRyder. But, I don't think there's another second human male for a squadmate this time around? I haven't noticed anyway. So, exactly what Prince E said.
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Post by dalinne on Jan 25, 2017 9:20:01 GMT
If Liam is LI exclusive for Sara I'm gonna be pissed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2017 10:57:28 GMT
I'm still hoping it goes something like this, since as it would stand, there would be 2 options for each group, with more that aren't included since we don't yet know any other potential characters who can be romanced so:
Straight Men: Cora as an exclusive, PeeBee
Straight Women: Liam, Drack as an exclusive (although I still doubt they'd allow a krogan romance so if not Drack, Jaal)
Gay Men: Liam, Reyes as an exclusive
Lesbian Women: PeeBee, Vetra as an exclusive
2 for each as it stands, and like I said the potential for more romances for each group going by what BioWare has said. But where the squad is concerned, I think it could be something like that.
Ideally of course, Cora would also be available to Sara as well but I doubt BioWare is going to make Liam, Cora and PeeBee all bi, sadly.
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Post by javeart on Jan 25, 2017 11:34:56 GMT
I'm still hoping it goes something like this, since as it would stand, there would be 2 options for each group, with more that aren't included since we don't yet know any other potential characters who can be romanced so: Straight Men: Cora as an exclusive, PeeBee Straight Women: Liam, Drack as an exclusive (although I still doubt they'd allow a krogan romance so if not Drack, Jaal)Gay Men: Liam, Reyes as an exclusive Lesbian Women: PeeBee, Vetra as an exclusive 2 for each as it stands, and like I said the potential for more romances for each group going by what BioWare has said. But where the squad is concerned, I think it could be something like that. Ideally of course, Cora would also be available to Sara as well but I doubt BioWare is going to make Liam, Cora and PeeBee all bi, sadly. this is probably my worst scenario but since I've never enjoyed much my ME romances, my pessimistc side is saying "seems likely" edit: btw, for those hoping for Liam to be a m/m option, I too think he's going to be... even if ME has a bad record with gay romances, it's been a long time from ME1, I can't believe they're not going to include a gay LI among the squadmates. I've been too optimistic about this kind of things before though :/ but I really don't think I'm being it this time
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Post by mrjack on Jan 25, 2017 13:08:58 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead. I'll be a very sad panda if there isn't a human male romance on my squad unless this Jaal person turns out to be a hot human looking Andromedan or a mask-less quarian. I know it sounds shallow but I would never have gone for Garrus even if he were available to my Shep. I really don't get all the mooning that straight women do over him. If Liam isn't available then I have this theory about SAM that probably won't pan out even though I really want it to. If we end up with only a non-squad human or alien that literally look like an animal on two legs 2 or has a tribal masks for a face 3, well... I'll still enjoy the game but I won't get those really emotional feels when your LI is in the trenches with you right before the final battle. That scene where the Normandy picks up Kaidan covered in blood and he tells you he loves you 1 is basically my favourite moment in gaming. ME3 was my first BW game and I only picked it up after I heard that it let you have a gay relationship in it. I'd never really played a shooter before and I was really, really bad but from that first moment that Dr. Eva tried to crack his head open and my Shep was like "NooOOOOooo!! You will not harm my space boyfriend!" and then slung him over his shoulder and carried him back to the ship, I was hooked. Dammit, now I need to go play ME3 again. 1. 2. 3.
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 25, 2017 14:16:33 GMT
I know it sounds shallow but I would never have gone for Garrus even if he were available to my Shep. I really don't get all the mooning that straight women do over him. I'm gonna like your comment but you know this... is.. well ...
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Post by dalinne on Jan 25, 2017 14:17:43 GMT
We're definitely going to have a human male romance for Scott. I'm just not convinced that it will be Liam. We've had zero evidence that he's an LI for Scott and there's pretty strong precedent against it given that we've never had the beginning human male companion character as an option for the male PC in any Bioware game. For some reason, the devs seem to see this role as a straight guy. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'm not expecting Liam for Scott. I suspect we'll get some prominent human NPC, like Reyes, as Scott's option instead. I'll be a very sad panda if there isn't a human male romance on my squad unless this Jaal person turns out to be a hot human looking Andromedan or a mask-less quarian. I know it sounds shallow but I would never have gone for Garrus even if he were available to my Shep. I really don't get all the mooning that straight women do over him.(...) The "reach", man Also... His personality, his character arc, his badass attitude, his friendship, his adorkable romance, his voice, his funny comments, his interaction with the rest of the crewmates, the second-of-command vibe from him and the colour blue is the best colour of any galaxy, so...
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Post by fialka on Jan 25, 2017 14:19:05 GMT
I really think Liam will be bi. Speculation on my part, of course, but seeing how they 'fixed' Kaidan to be bi after conceptualizing him as straight in ME1 (note: that's how it seems to me anyway, it's unfortunate he wasn't an option for you guys in ME1 and I'm glad it was changed. But I don't really buy the whole 'I always thought of him as bi' thing the writer claimed...), I doubt they would go and make another straight Kaidan in this game. Just seems like a step back. Also I'm really hoping for Reyes as an option for Sara, whoever he turns out to be, but especially if he's on our crew. I don't mind a non-squaddie romance. While I preferred Solas as a character and for plot reasons, Cullen was my favorite actual romance in DAI and him not being a companion didn't bother me one bit.
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Post by disgustednoise on Jan 25, 2017 17:22:11 GMT
If Liam is straight then I really hope the MEA team took notes on how Josephine and Cullen's romances were handled in DAI. I really didn't feel they were any less important/prioritized than the companion romances, unlike how Cortez and Traynor (and Miranda, Jack, and Thane) were handled in ME3.
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Post by fialka on Jan 25, 2017 17:22:15 GMT
Guys, guys, GUYS!! (and fellow girls)
As the camera zooms in you see PeeBee on the left at a work station, and on the right... a human dude with spiky hair. COULD IT BE!!??
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Jan 25, 2017 17:37:45 GMT
It must be him, I mean IT MUST I mean.... I hope they show Liam and Cora faces tomorrow with the cinematic trailer
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