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Post by demon212 on Nov 16, 2016 11:18:21 GMT
Because Bioware and EA have never done a full collection I've never bought into ME because it is a colossal nightmare quite frankly, trying to get this series.
This is basically my experience over the last hour I've discovered that the PS3, 360 and P.C each have a trilogy set but each contains different DLC contents and none of them contain everything, the PS3 doesn't even have all ME DLC available to buy and on P.C you need to buy Bioware points to buy your DLC as money is bad (apparently) and P.C also uses Origin and requires always online even if you buy the discs.
So as this is EXACTLY the same brick wall I ran into back in 2012 when they released the trilogy set, the brick wall that made me give up and just hope for a complete edition to come to the next gen of systems... I've came here to plead for help.
So to simplify, as you know N7 2016 was when they confirmed that all 3 ME's were finally available on the XBOX ONE backwards compatibility programme. However I cannot find a copy of the trilogy on 360 new, the games are not available digitally on the XBOX ONE Backwards Compatibility programme either, so, I haven't bought anything yet BUT let's just say I have. Let's say I've bought all 3 games second hand, separately, no DLC, no online passes, nothing, just the discs of 1, 2 and 3.
What the hell do I now need to buy to get the complete experience?
Because ME has 2 bits of DLC, ME2 has 24 and ME3 has 20 (according to the Microsoft store). But I know fine well that some of them will be preorder DLC, some will be skins and weapons that stop being useful once you reach level 10 let alone max level and only a couple will be story DLC's.
So if you read nothing at all else of this post, please read this. What DLC is important? What do I need to buy and what is just garbage that can be tossed aside?
Because all I want to do is play through this trilogy as people constantly talk about it and as someone who adored KOTOR a long long time ago... I just really want to try ME out, but at the moment it just seems so anti consumer it's unbelievable.
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Post by Babar Guy on Nov 16, 2016 12:45:32 GMT
ME2: Lair of the Shadow Broker, Arrival, maybe Overlord ME3: Omega, From Ashes if it's not included by default, Leviathan, Citadel, Extended Cut (it's free tho)
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Post by melbella on Nov 17, 2016 2:30:11 GMT
Will add Bring Down the Sky for ME1 (should also be free). Playing it makes a few things in 2 and 3 make a bit more sense.
Also, you can play offline on PC.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 17, 2016 2:39:51 GMT
Because Bioware and EA have never done a full collection I've never bought into ME because it is a colossal nightmare quite frankly, trying to get this series. This is basically my experience over the last hour I've discovered that the PS3, 360 and P.C each have a trilogy set but each contains different DLC contents and none of them contain everything, the PS3 doesn't even have all ME DLC available to buy and on P.C you need to buy Bioware points to buy your DLC as money is bad (apparently) and P.C also uses Origin and requires always online even if you buy the discs. So as this is EXACTLY the same brick wall I ran into back in 2012 when they released the trilogy set, the brick wall that made me give up and just hope for a complete edition to come to the next gen of systems... I've came here to plead for help.So to simplify, as you know N7 2016 was when they confirmed that all 3 ME's were finally available on the XBOX ONE backwards compatibility programme. However I cannot find a copy of the trilogy on 360 new, the games are not available digitally on the XBOX ONE Backwards Compatibility programme either, so, I haven't bought anything yet BUT let's just say I have. Let's say I've bought all 3 games second hand, separately, no DLC, no online passes, nothing, just the discs of 1, 2 and 3. What the hell do I now need to buy to get the complete experience? Because ME has 2 bits of DLC, ME2 has 24 and ME3 has 20 (according to the Microsoft store). But I know fine well that some of them will be preorder DLC, some will be skins and weapons that stop being useful once you reach level 10 let alone max level and only a couple will be story DLC's. ly o So if you read nothing at all else of this post, please read this. What DLC is important? What do I need to buy and what is just garbage that can be tossed aside?
Because all I want to do is play through this trilogy as people constantly talk about it and as someone who adored KOTOR a long long time ago... I just really want to try ME out, but at the moment it just seems so anti consumer it's unbelievable.You don't have to be always online with Origin to play the base game but you do for the DLC. Not sure why that is. Anyway, BW points aren't terrible. So, what's necessary? Ultimately, nothing. Bring Down the Sky for ME1 ties into an event in ME3. That being said, my first run through the trilogy I didn't have BDtS and the scene plays out similarly to how it would based on my generally Paragon Shepard's choices. You can skip it with no real impact. It's fun but unnecessary. For ME2, I'd go with Arrival and Overlord. Again, nothing integral to ME3, but there are bits of characterization that carry over that I like. Choices made with the batarians and with David Archer in these two DLC and a little extra something to the game. ME3 will still be fine without you ever playing them. I think getting the DLC that allows you to recruit Kasumi actually makes for a different ending in one of the missions in ME3 - provided Kasumi survives the end of ME2. This effects EMS, which affects the ending of ME3. I don't think Zaeed's appearance in ME3 has the same kind of impact so it's probably not necessary to buy his DLC. Lair of the Shadow Broker is good but does take you away from the main game. It moves Liara's plot along but you can play ME3 just fine without this DLC. For ME3, I think From Ashes and Leviathan ought to have been part of the base game. I do believe the contents of those DLC provide for a superior experience. I love the Citadel DLC as well, and it will give you more EMS in ME3, but it's less necessary. To sum up, I'd go for the following: Bring Down the Sky in ME1; Arrival, Overlord, and Kasumi - Stolen Memory for ME2; and From Ashes and Leviathan for ME3. Those I think will give you a great experience. That being said, I think a lot of the DLC adds to the experience. I wouldn't miss out on the Citadel DLC but I know some people have issues with it.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Nov 17, 2016 6:58:21 GMT
I don't have consoles so I can't say anything much here.
If you need ONLY one DLC, I would suggest Leviathan DLC as it ties up Reaper's origin and this is the area where the trilogy is sorely lacking.
Bring Down the Sky and Arrival added up to Batarian lore. I thought it gives layers to Shepard's origin story (Mindoir, Torfan and Blitz). And I prefer Arrival being the reason why Shepard was incarcerated in ME3.
ME2's Overlord and ME3's Omega DLC added more to Cerberus narrative into the trilogy. Citadel DLC gives closure to ME Foundation series but half of it was fanservice which almost everyone like.
DLC companions is fun to have but quite optional in entirety.
If you're a fan of Liara, Lair of the Shadow Broker DLC is a must and its probably the only bright moment in the trilogy that involves her.
As for the rest, weapon DLC can be quite necessary especially in higher difficulty. I hate how Mattock isn't in ME2 base game. In ME3, I couldn't live without my darling Black Widow X.
Appearance DLC is largely optional too and ME2 have a lot of them. I prefer Miranda in armor.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2016 21:37:04 GMT
As has been indicated above, none of the DLC is absolutely necessary. However, if you want to be able to approximate the complete experience you will probably want to get all of the following. For the Xbox, you should be able to download them directly from Xbox Live. I don't have my Xbox One at home right now, so I can't be sure, but I'm assuming everything I bought on my 360 will be re-downloadable onto the Xbox One now that the games are all backward compatible.
Mass Effect 1 - Bring Down the Sky is worthwhile and does result in a a side-quest in ME3. It is listed as an "extra" available for download through Xbox Live (under "extras" for that game).
Mass Effect 2 - Lair of the Shadow Broker, Overlord, Arrival, Kasumi: Stealing Memory and Zaeed: The Price of Revenge are all worthwhile. They all have a reasonable amount of gameplay associated with them and do all have some references associated with them in ME3. Different players favor different individual ones, but if you want a complete experience, I would get all of them if possible. On the console, Zaeed may only be available if you can activate the Cerberus Network, which was was originally obtained free via a pass code contained in the packaging. The Cerberus Network is listed as being available for download (again under "extras"), but I'm not sure if the pass code is still required to activate it there... when I did it a few years ago, it was required but things may have changed since then. If you can activate the Cerberus Network, you will also get some weapons and armor and the Firewalker DLC (in addition to Zaeed)... all free.
Mass Effect 3 - The 3 main DLCs are From Ashes, Omega, and Leviathan. From Ashes gives you Javik as a squad mate to use throughout the game; whereas, Omega gives you one very long mission where you get to use Aria as a squad mate... but just during the DLC though. Leviathan gives you 5 different missions and fleshes out the Reaper story quite a bit... although I personally don't find it as important a revelation as many people seem to... still, it is a very fun and worthwhile DLC).
If you're into getting some upgraded weapons, then there are a couple of weapons DLCs for ME2 and ME3 that you may want to invest in; but IMO the game is very doable without them. The rest (hoodie, armor sets, etc.) is really just cosmetic. Also, be aware that the Microsoft store shows several "avatar items" - which are ways to dress your Xbox Live avatar and have nothing to do with in-game DLC.
BTW, checking on Amazon.ca today shows a few new copies of the Mass Effect Trilogy (Xbox 360) available there.
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Post by boabykenobi on Nov 20, 2016 14:32:05 GMT
Mass Effect's Bring Down The Sky D.L.C is well worth playing as whatever you do in that mission comes back to you in ME3. The only other D.L.C for the original game is not that great IMO, and you should only get it if you're wanting all the achievements.
Mass Effect 2 has some great D.L.C.
I think you should recruit Zaeed and Kazumi immediately because Zaeed's loyalty power is very useful. I personally like to leave Kazumi's mission until later as it breaks the game up a bit and I think her loyalty mission itself is very cool. You can pick up a nice gun in Kazumi's mission though so depending on what class you're playing as you might want to do that mission sooner just for that reason.
Normandy Crash Site is worth getting. It's not much of a mission really but if you've played the original game then you'll definitely want to experience this short quest.
I personally love the Firewalker missions as they make the game feel less like you're just going from place to place recruiting people. I like to play them periodically through the game to mix things up a bit. I think that ME2 felt a little less epic as the original as you didn't get to control any vehicles and so the levels themselves felt much smaller and it could get a little repetitive and almost feel like a corridor shooter at times. The Firewalker missions may not feel as epic as landing on planets and exploring them like in the original but I enjoy those missions all the same.
Overlord is one of my favourite ME D.L.Cs. I usually play this mission after I have started on my second round of recruiting people. It has a great story to it and you can use the Hammerhead if you didn't get the Firewalker D.L.C. It's also pretty dark in content and you have another difficult choice to make in it.
The Lair of the Shadow Broker is another excellent piece of ME2 D.L.C. Brilliant action sequences and how it ends is pretty cool. You can play this D.L.C. at any time I think but I like to wait after I've recruited Samara and done a couple of quests on Illium before starting it. After completion of this D.L.C. you get some cool stuff so some people I know like to do it early but others leave it until later. I even know some people who wait until they've completed the game to start it but it's up to you.
The Arrival D.L.C. for ME2 should be completed after you've completed ME2 IMO. It kind of acts as a bridge between 2 & 3 so IMO it makes sense to play it then.
Mass Effect 3 also has some amazing D.L.C.
The From Ashes D.L.C. is another of my favourites as it adds a unique team member and also has some wonderful story to it. You cant use the character you get from completeting this D.L.C. though until after you've done a certain mission early in the game, Priority: Sur'Kesh I think? But you do get a cool weapon that you can use right away so it's up to you when you want to start it.
The Omega D.L.C. I like to play after the Citadel Coup as for me it makes sense to do it then but again it's up to you.
The Leviathan D.L.C. is absolutely epic. I think it should be done after Priorty: Thessia & Prority: Horizon.
The Citadel D.L.C. I always leave until the very end, the point of no return in the game, after all side-missions have been completed. There is 2 parts to this D.L.C. though, so do the first part to open up the new hub area and leave the actual party until you've completed all mission for the characters you want at the party, it's one of the greatest moments in the entire series IMO.
Those are the main parts you'll want to go through in order the experience the trilogy as a whole IMO. There are other D.L.Cs available but these are minor things like alternate costumes and additional weapons, nothing major really.
I was lucky to get all the ME2 & 3 D.L.C when it was on sale on Xbox Live. Think I paid £20-25 in total. Might have been a little less than that I cant remember.
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Post by Sondergaard on Nov 20, 2016 21:05:53 GMT
Only thing I'd add to boabykenobi's excellent post is the costume pack for Miranda in ME2. Replaces her ridiculous costume with something a bit more practical. Jack's costume pack is good as well but adds a visor which you can't get rid of.
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Post by boabykenobi on Nov 21, 2016 14:51:08 GMT
I liked Miranda's alternate costume after she's loyal, the black catsuit. But the white original one looked a bit silly.
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Post by dmc1001 on Nov 21, 2016 21:14:50 GMT
I liked Miranda's alternate costume after she's loyal, the black catsuit. But the white original one looked a bit silly. True. I always switch her into that one. There's a really hideous one they have for her in DLC that I avoid at all costs.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Nov 21, 2016 23:05:40 GMT
Moved to ME General as topic was not character/romance related. As to the topic itself, have you tried the ME Wiki, OP? masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Downloadable_ContentIt lists all the DLC and how to get them and where they're bundled. Now my thoughts on the matter. ME1- Never played any DLC, don't know how crucial it is. I was considering getting some recently, but I already started a new playthrough so screw it. From what I understand Bring Down the Sky is about some Batarian shenanigans, which may be worth it since you don't see Batarians in ME otherwise (to my knowledge). Apparently it's also free so maybe I will see if I can get it. ME2- the most important story DLCs are Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival. They explain how Liara becomes the Shadow Broker and why Shepard had to go full retard in lockup before the war, respectively (because he stopped the Reaprs from arriving 6 months early). Then you have the companion DLCs Stolen Memory (Kasumi) and Price of Revenge (Zaeed). Zaeed you pretty much get for free at this point but Kasumi is totally worth it, for story, for gameplay, for everything. The other optional story DLC is Overlord, a nice little expansion on Cerberus and the geth. It does factor into ME3 (Grissom Academy) so it's worth it (plus it has more sections for the Hammerhead, which is always fun). Otherwise Firewalker is pretty much just Hammerhead missions but you get a cool Prothean Sphere at the end of it and Normandy crash site is a nice but not crucial addon that's exactly what it says on the tin- you get to explore the crashsite and have some flashbacks to the SR1. The rest is just flavor, armor and weapons, feel free to read up on them and decide what you want. ME3- there's only four SP DLCs and most people have summed them up pretty well. I'd highly recommend From Ashes (Javik), even over Leviathan. Javik actually provides a new perspective on something we took for granted since Day 1 of the series. Leviathan on the other hand, while it has a cool atmosphere merely expands the holokid's nonsense, it doesn't actually provide new information. Plus one squadmate that affects the whole game and like Kasumi gives you a powerful ally and a weapon vs a single contained story that doesn't show up again outside of EMS numbers and one off hand mention at the ending. As for Omega, I'll add that it felt like a different game (still in the ME series) and I found that to be a very good thing.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Nov 21, 2016 23:39:39 GMT
Because Bioware and EA have never done a full collection I've never bought into ME because it is a colossal nightmare quite frankly, trying to get this series. This is basically my experience over the last hour I've discovered that the PS3, 360 and P.C each have a trilogy set but each contains different DLC contents and none of them contain everything, the PS3 doesn't even have all ME DLC available to buy and on P.C you need to buy Bioware points to buy your DLC as money is bad (apparently) and P.C also uses Origin and requires always online even if you buy the discs. So as this is EXACTLY the same brick wall I ran into back in 2012 when they released the trilogy set, the brick wall that made me give up and just hope for a complete edition to come to the next gen of systems... I've came here to plead for help.So to simplify, as you know N7 2016 was when they confirmed that all 3 ME's were finally available on the XBOX ONE backwards compatibility programme. However I cannot find a copy of the trilogy on 360 new, the games are not available digitally on the XBOX ONE Backwards Compatibility programme either, so, I haven't bought anything yet BUT let's just say I have. Let's say I've bought all 3 games second hand, separately, no DLC, no online passes, nothing, just the discs of 1, 2 and 3. What the hell do I now need to buy to get the complete experience? Because ME has 2 bits of DLC, ME2 has 24 and ME3 has 20 (according to the Microsoft store). But I know fine well that some of them will be preorder DLC, some will be skins and weapons that stop being useful once you reach level 10 let alone max level and only a couple will be story DLC's. So if you read nothing at all else of this post, please read this. What DLC is important? What do I need to buy and what is just garbage that can be tossed aside?
Because all I want to do is play through this trilogy as people constantly talk about it and as someone who adored KOTOR a long long time ago... I just really want to try ME out, but at the moment it just seems so anti consumer it's unbelievable. ME1: Play Bringing Down the Sky.
ME2: Lair of the Shadow Broker, Firewalker, Overlord, Kasumi: Stolen Memories, Zaheed: The Price of Revenge, The Arrival, and both Appearance Packs ME3: The Extended Cut, Leviathan, The Citadel, and From The Ashes
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 10:01:36 GMT
I don't really have anything else to add here, other than if you are loving or enjoying your run of Mass Effect so far, then most of the single player DLC's are really worth giving a go.
Mass Effect doesn't just have some excellent DLC, some are arguably examples of the best DLC gaming has to offer. Lair of the Shadow Broker is particularly popular and acclaimed, but all are good, with some obviously being better than others.
It would feel amiss not to give them a go.
For me ones like Zaeed, Kasumi and From Ashes are essential as it's not Mass Effect without Zaeed, Kasumi and Javik in it.
Citadel is also cheesy fan service, but that is what works so well in its favour. It's my personal favourite, and one of the best DLC's I have come across. More so than Shadow Broker, simply for all the wonderful character moments, fun and substantial campaign, and the fun of a whole new apartment and Citadel hub area to explore and get lost in.
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Post by jasonshepardn7 on Nov 24, 2016 2:00:40 GMT
For my own DLC recommendations (avoiding spoilers):
ME1 Bring Down the Sky is good, but not vital. Play it whenever during the main game. Pinnacle Station is the only DLC that I've never played, and I can't say I'm ever going to. From what I've heard, I don't think I'm missing much.
ME2 Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival are both what I'd consider 'vital'. They work well played after the main campaign.(*) Overlord is another good but non-vital DLC that can be played whenever.
ME3 Extended Cut is essential and free, so there's no good reason not to have it. Leviathan is another 'vital' DLC. It works well played towards late-game, but can be played whenever.(**) Omega and From Ashes - both of these are decent, but I personally wouldn't count either as 'vital'. They can be played at any time throughout the main ME3 campaign. Citadel is largely irrelevant to the main plot of ME3, but also completely hilarious and comprises some brilliant fanservice. Probably best played very lategame. (I like to do it as the very last thing before the point-of-no-return. Don't worry, ME3 signposts its point-of-no-return quite clearly.)
(*) One detail on Arrival - the DLC will 'activate' halfway through ME2 (ie, the introductory scene of the DLC will take place, and you can't avoid it). However, the DLC itself works best as the closing act of ME2. So I'd personally recommend only installing Arrival once you've finished the main plot of ME2. (ME2 is unique in the trilogy in that it allows you to continue exploring the galaxy after completing the main plot. ME1 just ends the game after the credits roll, whereas after the ME3-credits you are kicked back to just before the final mission.)
(**) Regarding Leviathan. I recommend holding off on the last (3rd) mission of Leviathan until just before ME3's point-of-no-return. Playing it earlier can lead to your Shepard learning some information before the main plot expects you to. It's nothing plot breaking, so don't worry about it too much, it can just lead to characters expressing some surprise at stuff that they should already know.
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Post by DoomsdayDevice on Nov 28, 2016 23:26:04 GMT
Here's my advice:
For a truly full experience, get all the characters and all the story DLC.
ME1: Bringing Down The Sky ME2: Project Overlord, Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival, plus Zaeed and Kasumi. ME3: From Ashes, Leviathan, Omega and Citadel.
That way you have the complete crew, and all of the story.
As for which ones are the best, everyone has his personal favourites. Omega isn't really important story-wise, it's just a lot of fighting, but it's enjoyable in its own way, in my opinion. Some consider Citadel to be too much fanservice, I personally wouldn't have wanted to miss it.
Also, for the full experience, don't finish it with the Extended Cut right away, experience the original ending first. xD
Personally I like all the costume packs, but the changes are only cosmetic. I also got all the weapon packs, but that's just because I really like the weapons in ME, especially ME3. But that's just me. There's no way you need all that.
The DLC is expensive though. And it's rarely if ever on sale. On 360 that is. Anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
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