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Post by Lawrence0294 on Feb 27, 2017 14:07:14 GMT
Although I love Miranda and ME2 Cerberus, ME3 Cerberus has really soured my interest for them, with all the space Nazi and Kai Leng thing. I would actually rather Cora and the general plot be removed from any connections with Cerberus. Maybe some links to the Andromeda Initiative or something but not much else. I'm fully burnt out on them.
The relationship between Cora and DadyRyder is something else I'm very much looking forward to.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 27, 2017 14:45:54 GMT
Although I love Miranda and ME2 Cerberus, ME3 Cerberus has really soured my interest for them, with all the space Nazi and Kai Leng thing. I would actually rather Cora and the general plot be removed from any connections with Cerberus. Maybe some links to the Andromeda Initiative or something but not much else. I'm fully burnt out on them. The relationship between Cora and DadyRyder is something else I'm very much looking forward to.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 27, 2017 14:52:41 GMT
Although I love Miranda and ME2 Cerberus, ME3 Cerberus has really soured my interest for them, with all the space Nazi and Kai Leng thing. I would actually rather Cora and the general plot be removed from any connections with Cerberus. Maybe some links to the Andromeda Initiative or something but not much else. I'm fully burnt out on them. The relationship between Cora and DadyRyder is something else I'm very much looking forward to.I could say so many things here... but I guess 'ill settle for a very immature: EWWWW... YUCK!
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Post by Lawrence0294 on Feb 27, 2017 14:52:51 GMT
Hahaha, to be more precise, I meant that I'm curious as to what is the exact relationship between the two. A romantic one would very quickly turn the awkward meter quite high. I'd rather they didn't go that route.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 27, 2017 15:00:59 GMT
You are trying way too hard to prove "differences." I gave broad and general similarities. You are giving specific and narrowly-tailored differences. Whether you want to recognize the similarities or not is your own prerogative. I think it's clear that BioWare started with Miranda's old concept art when originally conceiving Cora. No, what I'm saying is that such broad-brush similarities don't really add up to "Miranda 2.0" in my mind, and what you see as "clear", I see as overactive pattern recognition.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 27, 2017 15:10:17 GMT
You are trying way too hard to prove "differences." I gave broad and general similarities. You are giving specific and narrowly-tailored differences. Whether you want to recognize the similarities or not is your own prerogative. I think it's clear that BioWare started with Miranda's old concept art when originally conceiving Cora. No, what I'm saying is that such broad-brush similarities don't really add up to "Miranda 2.0" in my mind, and what you see as "clear", I see as overactive pattern recognition.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 27, 2017 15:19:56 GMT
You are trying way too hard to prove "differences." I gave broad and general similarities. You are giving specific and narrowly-tailored differences. Whether you want to recognize the similarities or not is your own prerogative. I think it's clear that BioWare started with Miranda's old concept art when originally conceiving Cora. No, what I'm saying is that such broad-brush similarities don't really add up to "Miranda 2.0" in my mind, and what you see as "clear", I see as overactive pattern recognition. I fully expect her to be her own character, but the similarities are there. And you don't have to dig deep or think hard to see them.
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Post by yourfunnyuncle on Feb 27, 2017 15:36:10 GMT
No, what I'm saying is that such broad-brush similarities don't really add up to "Miranda 2.0" in my mind, and what you see as "clear", I see as overactive pattern recognition. I fully expect her to be her own character, but the similarities are there. And you don't have to dig deep or think hard to see them. Sure, but some broad similarities don't merit the use of the term "Miranda 2.0".
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Post by Crim on Feb 27, 2017 15:40:11 GMT
Plot twist: Cora has hots for Dad Ryder & that's the real reason she is upset. She later chooses Male Ryder as consolation prize. Even better: Cora had already licked the lamppost with Dad Ryder & later did Male Ryder after Dad Ryder went off. You know, like how Dr. Elsa Schneider did both the Jones guys in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade. Keepin' it in the family... bruh.
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Post by Crim on Feb 27, 2017 16:14:00 GMT
Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora?
*hovering on sending this tweet to Jo rn*
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 27, 2017 16:27:12 GMT
Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora? *hovering on sending this tweet to Jo rn*Hard to say at this point. I guess you could argue Cora, because she dedicated her career to furthering her biotics. Where as Miranda focused on a more balanced, and covert path.
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Post by Crim on Feb 27, 2017 16:32:08 GMT
Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora? *hovering on sending this tweet to Jo rn*Hard to say at this point. I guess you could argue Cora, because she dedicated her career to furthering her biotics. Where as Miranda focused on a more balanced, and covert path. I sent the tweet. *sweats* I'm slightly leaning towards Cora too cos, Asari commando training.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 27, 2017 16:34:53 GMT
Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora? *hovering on sending this tweet to Jo rn*The answer is always "cutscene Jack".
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 27, 2017 17:06:31 GMT
Let's play advocate here, and discuss the WHAT IF CORA IS TIM's DAUGHTER, how would you want them to handle it. I say one of two ways. Either Alec knows and took Cora under his wing to get her away from his influence, with Cora sorta pseudo idolizing him, bit there's less angst towards her father than there is doubt you can live up to Alec as a Pathfinder... Or she is a plant, and have to stop or redeem her. 'Villain' companions are rare, with, to my memory, only Bastila, Juhani and Solas being in the category (with arguably Isabella, Malavi Quinn and Morrigan just under that umbrella) . I don't mind the idea of actual conflict, so long as it has a happy ending.
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Post by Crim on Feb 27, 2017 17:22:58 GMT
Cora it is then.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 27, 2017 17:25:35 GMT
Cora it is then. I guess the ones he can't talk about are an elite force/biotic counterpart in the Andromeda natives.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 18:25:40 GMT
Cora it is then. I'm going to ask what sort of implants she has. Think I'll get lucky and not get soon'd?
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 27, 2017 18:35:49 GMT
Plot twist: Cora has hots for Dad Ryder & that's the real reason she is upset. She later chooses Male Ryder as consolation prize. Even better: Cora had already licked the lamppost with Dad Ryder & later did Male Ryder after Dad Ryder went off. You know, like how Dr. Elsa Schneider did both the Jones guys in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade. Like I said 40 odd pages ago "That's not how your dad did it" = problematic Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora? Miranda, obviously. Dem perfect genes yo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 18:41:31 GMT
Plot twist: Cora has hots for Dad Ryder & that's the real reason she is upset. She later chooses Male Ryder as consolation prize.
Even better: Cora had already licked the lamppost with Dad Ryder & later did Male Ryder after Dad Ryder went off. You know, like how Dr. Elsa Schneider did both the Jones guys in Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade. Like I said 40 odd pages ago "That's not how your dad did it" = problematic Who would you say is the more powerful biotic, Miranda or Cora? Miranda, obviously. Dem perfect genes yo.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 18:55:20 GMT
SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody @joanna_Berry What types of biotic implants does Cora have? L2s? Jo Berry @joanna_Berry@of_somebody No, L2 implants were phased out a while back over safety concerns. Like I said in the twitter thread, she avoided the question like the bioware writer she is
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 27, 2017 18:56:51 GMT
Let's play advocate here, and discuss the WHAT IF CORA IS TIM's DAUGHTER, how would you want them to handle it. I say one of two ways. Either Alec knows and took Cora under his wing to get her away from his influence, with Cora sorta pseudo idolizing him, bit there's less angst towards her father than there is doubt you can live up to Alec as a Pathfinder... Or she is a plant, and have to stop or redeem her. 'Villain' companions are rare, with, to my memory, only Bastila, Juhani and Solas being in the category (with arguably Isabella, Malavi Quinn and Morrigan just under that umbrella) . I don't mind the idea of actual conflict, so long as it has a happy ending. Neither, don't mind her being a representative of Cerberus' interests and if she I would want other options than stop or redeem, like accepting or agreeing with he. definitely don't want a father-daughter relationship with Alec, nor her somehow desperately trying to get away from Tim influence. Really don't want daddy issues. If she isn't with Cerberus I'd want her to be knowledgeable and respectful of Tim and his goals, even if she doesn't wholly share them.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 27, 2017 19:04:28 GMT
Cora it is then. "Cora can keep up with asari commandos...."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 19:14:27 GMT
SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody @joanna_Berry What types of biotic implants does Cora have? L2s? Jo Berry @joanna_Berry@of_somebody No, L2 implants were phased out a while back over safety concerns. Like I said in the twitter thread, she avoided the question like the bioware writer she is SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody @joanna_Berry So...what kind does she have ? Jo Berry @joanna_Berry@of_somebody An L3 with asari amps.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 27, 2017 19:16:45 GMT
Let's play advocate here, and discuss the WHAT IF CORA IS TIM's DAUGHTER, how would you want them to handle it. I say one of two ways. Either Alec knows and took Cora under his wing to get her away from his influence, with Cora sorta pseudo idolizing him, bit there's less angst towards her father than there is doubt you can live up to Alec as a Pathfinder... Or she is a plant, and have to stop or redeem her. 'Villain' companions are rare, with, to my memory, only Bastila, Juhani and Solas being in the category (with arguably Isabella, Malavi Quinn and Morrigan just under that umbrella) . I don't mind the idea of actual conflict, so long as it has a happy ending. Cora already has several similarities to Miranda. I doubt they are going to have another female character with daddy issues. I think she joined the program on her own merits regardless of who her father may or may not be.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 27, 2017 19:30:36 GMT
SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody @joanna_Berry What types of biotic implants does Cora have? L2s? Jo Berry @joanna_Berry@of_somebody No, L2 implants were phased out a while back over safety concerns. Like I said in the twitter thread, she avoided the question like the bioware writer she is SomebodyOfNobody@of_somebody @joanna_Berry So...what kind does she have ? Jo Berry @joanna_Berry@of_somebody An L3 with asari amps. So she would be younger then Kaidan. Kaidan is roughly the same age as Shepard(31 during ME2).
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