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Post by snook on Apr 3, 2017 0:42:12 GMT
Welp, just completed the game and all I want to say is that Cora is bae and I want moar.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 3, 2017 2:16:52 GMT
Welp, just completed the game and all I want to say is that Cora is bae and I want moar. We. All. Want. Moar. |
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Post by Sifr on Apr 3, 2017 2:31:20 GMT
Really? I felt she was a somewhat immature character. She's constantly unsure of herself and looking for a mentor figure to give her life purpose. The betrayal she felt for Alec Ryder passing her over wasn't because she lost a promotion but because she took it as a slight on her as a student. It wasn't so much that, but the latest in a long string of rejection and disappointment. She had to leave home because when your parents live in a spaceship, having the ability to warp the bulkheads protecting you from space is not exactly safe for anyone involved. She then had to leave the Alliance because they didn't know what to do with someone that powerful, with the Asari the only people qualified to teach her how to use her abilities safely. Despite finding a place for herself among the Commandos, she had to leave the Asari because her mentor believed that Cora needed to join the Initiative, even if Cora didn't think so herself. Then after embracing her place and role as Alec's second, she then gets completely passed over to inherit the role of Pathfinder in favour of his barely qualified kid, who's had none of the years of training that she'd received. Not exactly hard to see why Cora felt so betrayed. Even more so after we learn that the real reason that Ryder was chosen was because Alec wanted to them to find some way to cure Ellen who was still in cryo. He sacrificed himself because he couldn't bear to bring back his wife, only to tell her that they'd lost one of their children along the way.
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Post by joglee on Apr 3, 2017 5:37:00 GMT
Welp, just completed the game and all I want to say is that Cora is bae and I want moar. We. All. Want. Moar. I believe Ryder is getting more off screen  At least Cora's last few emails certainly hint at that. I'm really hoping Ryder and Cora return in the second game. |
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Post by praxati on Apr 3, 2017 11:01:17 GMT
Well at least Cora's VA knows how to laugh about that "Asari Huntress" drama :')
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Post by raikas on Apr 3, 2017 21:59:12 GMT
I see her being in her early to mid-thirties. She definitely feels more mature than Ryder. Really? I felt she was a somewhat immature character. I thought both things were true - that she was immature overall but still more mature than Ryder. |
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Post by Sifr on Apr 3, 2017 22:37:25 GMT
I thought both things were true - that she was immature overall but still more mature than Ryder. Playing Sara with emotional/sarcastic responses, I'm pretty sure everyone in Andromeda was more mature than Ryder.  |
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Post by izut on Apr 3, 2017 23:15:37 GMT
I thought both things were true - that she was immature overall but still more mature than Ryder. Playing Sara with emotional/sarcastic responses, I'm pretty sure everyone in Andromeda was more mature than Ryder. And this ice joke... :lmfao: Cora's reaction: Rydeeer... no. :lmfao: |
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Post by Sifr on Apr 4, 2017 0:47:32 GMT
Do you think that playing as a sarcastic Ryder makes the Angara really confused upon meeting other humans? After meeting someone level-headed and disciplined like Cora, they'd probably be a little shocked to discover that not all humans are like Ryder.
Makes me wish we could see the moment the Angara realise that Ryder isn't weird because they're an alien, but because they're just plain weird.
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Post by achaen on Apr 4, 2017 1:27:27 GMT
I would have loved to have seen their reaction to Krogan.
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Post by formerfiend on Apr 4, 2017 3:41:35 GMT
I'm on my second playthrough right now and I'm pursuing a romance with Cora. She's growing on me a bit more this time around. She's currently jockeying with Jaal for third place on my favorites list.
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Post by Warrior DM on Apr 4, 2017 18:46:34 GMT
I kind of want to romance Cora in every subsequent playthrough, similarly to how I did so with Cassandra. As my relationship with her built up, I found myself excited to see where the romance would go after each Main Story mission. Now I just want to see the romance continue to evolve. (Here's hoping Ryder and Cora don't get separated between games.)
That scene on Eos felt like her true beginning, and not mention romantic as hell. I think she just needed to see her idol Sarissa as a deeply flawed individual, rather than defining her idol by the ideals of a handbook. The Asari Ark mission was the push she needed to stop living in the past, and move away from the rejection of both the Alliance and Asari Command.
I love that Cora begins calling Scott "sweetheart". By the epilogue she seemed to be confident in facing the unknown with Ryder by her side.
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Post by Vicex on Apr 4, 2017 22:06:50 GMT
I see her being in her early to mid-thirties. She definitely feels more mature than Ryder. Really? I felt she was a somewhat immature character. She's constantly unsure of herself and looking for a mentor figure to give her life purpose. The betrayal she felt for Alec Ryder passing her over wasn't because she lost a promotion but because she took it as a slight on her as a student. That doesn't mean she's young. It could just be a part of Erikson's psychosocial stages- namely the Identity/role confusion- which is supported by the how she was treated as a biotic in her adolescent years. |
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Post by Cannibal on Apr 4, 2017 23:48:28 GMT
Do people really find Cora being in her mid 20s that hard to believe? We're told pretty much her whole history and her being 30 or older makes zero sense.
She joined the alliance at 18 was almost immediately transfered to the asari to get her biotic in check. Spent a few years and then was kicked out of there and started training to be Alex's second where she spent a few years.
She should be no older than 26.
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2017 0:00:06 GMT
Do people really find Cora being in her mid 20s that hard to believe? We're told pretty much her whole history and her being 30 or older makes zero sense. She joined the alliance at 18 was almost immediately transfered to the asari to get her biotic in check. Spent a few years and then was kicked out of there and started training to be Alex's second where she spent a few years.She should be no older than 26. That's the whole point. She SPENT A FEW YEARS among Asari. And THEN got kicked out and started training to be Alex's 2IC. I'm sorry, but 7-8 years is not enough to get promoted to the Lt in her case. She didn't do anything heroic. |
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Post by Cannibal on Apr 5, 2017 0:20:35 GMT
Do people really find Cora being in her mid 20s that hard to believe? We're told pretty much her whole history and her being 30 or older makes zero sense. She joined the alliance at 18 was almost immediately transfered to the asari to get her biotic in check. Spent a few years and then was kicked out of there and started training to be Alex's second where she spent a few years.She should be no older than 26. That's the whole point. She SPENT A FEW YEARS among Asari. And THEN got kicked out and started training to be Alex's 2IC. I'm sorry, but 7-8 years is not enough to get promoted to the Lt in her case. She didn't do anything heroic. Vega was promoted to Lt in less than 6 years. Also Cora would have been promoted under asari standards and we have no idea how their military. |
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2017 0:25:50 GMT
That's the whole point. She SPENT A FEW YEARS among Asari. And THEN got kicked out and started training to be Alex's 2IC. I'm sorry, but 7-8 years is not enough to get promoted to the Lt in her case. She didn't do anything heroic. Vega was promoted to Lt in less than 6 years. Also Cora would have been promoted under asari standards and we have no idea how their military. Vega was a N7 candidate too. Cora has nothing special except her biotics to which other humans don't respond very well. Lieutenant Cora Harper is a human biotic and formerly an officer in the Systems Alliance military. She was transferred from the Citadel Council's Valkyrie Program (a subset of their interspecies military integration plan) and placed with the asari commando unit Talein's Daughters. [...] Her screening interviews state that she was raised in poverty on an independant cargo freighter. She joined the Alliance at eighteen to obtain training for her powerful biotic abilities.She's not an Asari Lt. She's Alliance Lt. If she spent a few years under Asari (let's say 5, it's not easy to control biotics) it leaves her with 2-3 years to promote from zero to Lt and that is impossible. |
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Post by Cannibal on Apr 5, 2017 0:37:40 GMT
Vega was promoted to Lt in less than 6 years. Also Cora would have been promoted under asari standards and we have no idea how their military. Vega was a N7 candidate too. Cora has nothing special except her biotics to which other humans don't respond very well. Lieutenant Cora Harper is a human biotic and formerly an officer in the Systems Alliance military. She was transferred from the Citadel Council's Valkyrie Program (a subset of their interspecies military integration plan) and placed with the asari commando unit Talein's Daughters. [...] Her screening interviews state that she was raised in poverty on an independant cargo freighter. She joined the Alliance at eighteen to obtain training for her powerful biotic abilities.She's not an Asari Lt. She's Alliance Lt. If she spent a few years under Asari (let's say 5, it's not easy to control biotics) it leaves her with 2-3 years to promote from zero to Lt and that is impossible. Vega got the n7 nod after his actions on fehl prime, which was after he was a Lt. And when Cora left the asari she joined the Pathfinder initiative, she didn't go back to the alliance. So the only way she would have ranked up was through the asari. It seems they just gave her a title for shits and giggles. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 5, 2017 1:20:29 GMT
Nah, it's not hard to believe she's in her mind twenties, it's the truth. Her writer said so, people should get over it.
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Post by izut on Apr 5, 2017 1:26:14 GMT
Nah, it's not hard to believe she's in her mind twenties, it's the truth. Her writer said so, people should get over it. Too many things writers said is contradicted by what devs delivered with the game. Meaning - devs changed things on their own. |
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 5, 2017 1:37:37 GMT
Talk about being delusional. Just accept it already. Your word has no relevance against the writer's.
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Do people really find Cora being in her mid 20s that hard to believe? We're told pretty much her whole history and her being 30 or older makes zero sense. She joined the alliance at 18 was almost immediately transfered to the asari to get her biotic in check. Spent a few years and then was kicked out of there and started training to be Alex's second where she spent a few years.She should be no older than 26. That's the whole point. She SPENT A FEW YEARS among Asari. And THEN got kicked out and started training to be Alex's 2IC. I'm sorry, but 7-8 years is not enough to get promoted to the Lt in her case. She didn't do anything heroic. Lieutenant is actually a very junior rank among officers. In military organizations lieutenants are typically new officers not long out of college and OCS (Officer Candidate School). 2nd Lieutenants probably average out somewhere around 22 - 25 and 1st Lieutenants 25 - 28. A recently commissioned 2nd Lieutenant, unless prior enlisted, has no military experience other than their equivalent of basic training. 2nd Lieutenants are far less experienced than many junior ranks like Sergeants or Corporals. Cora's age (given as mid twenties by her writer) is in line with her rank. The Andromeda Initiative is also a civilization organization, so promotions and the organizational hierarchy probably works a bit differently than the Alliance or the Asari Navy and promotion requirements likely much less stringent. She was probably made a Lt. by Garson or Alec Ryder just because of her prior military experience and personal connection to the latter. Her being effectively Alec Ryder's XO probably just boiled down to he said so. Cora is a combat veteran as well, which probably makes her more qualified for a position of some authority in the Pathfinder team than the majority of the people who signed up for the Andromeda Initiative. She mentions having seen some combat while attached to the Asari Navy. |
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Apr 5, 2017 12:07:46 GMT
Vega was promoted to Lt in less than 6 years. Also Cora would have been promoted under asari standards and we have no idea how their military. Vega was a N7 candidate too. Cora has nothing special except her biotics to which other humans don't respond very well. Lieutenant Cora Harper is a human biotic and formerly an officer in the Systems Alliance military. She was transferred from the Citadel Council's Valkyrie Program (a subset of their interspecies military integration plan) and placed with the asari commando unit Talein's Daughters. [...] Her screening interviews state that she was raised in poverty on an independant cargo freighter. She joined the Alliance at eighteen to obtain training for her powerful biotic abilities.She's not an Asari Lt. She's Alliance Lt. If she spent a few years under Asari (let's say 5, it's not easy to control biotics) it leaves her with 2-3 years to promote from zero to Lt and that is impossible. You have no idea of how military ranks work. LT. junior grade/2nd is the FIRST officer rank in the Systems Alliance military. If one attends a military academy or college they are immediately given the first officer rank in today's western military forces. I would imagine it is the similar for the System's Alliance. Cora had some type of formal training with her biotics, where the system alliance realized her abilities were beyond the norm for human biotics. It is a fair assumption that after attending an alliance boitic training facility Cora was given the rank of LT after graduating. The time line would likely be; In her mid teens Cora attended a biotic training facility and upon graduation she enlisted. Due to her time training at an alliance facility she qualified as an officer when enlisting(LT 2nd grade) at age 18 or 19. Shortly after she is picked for the Valkyrie program, resigns her Alliance commission, and spends the next 4-5 years as part of the Asari military serving with an Asari commando unit, putting her between 22-24. She then joins the AI, and spends 18 months to 2 years training under Alec, putting her between the age of 24-26. Really a LT is nothing special and non-comms tend to be wary of freshly minted LTs because while they attend some type of formal training or college they lack actual experience. A good "fresh" LT looks to their sergeant until they get some experience. The best LTs tend to be a "Mustang" who first enlisted as a non-comm and then attended officer training after seeing some action. |
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