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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 17:07:25 GMT
On the topic of relationships, an article mentions the system to track down the progress:
"There is a whole section of the menu dedicated to your crew and detailing your relationship with each one, allowing you to keep track of where you stand. To demand a section of the menu means that relationships are a huge focus in Andromeda."
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 17:09:50 GMT
On the topic of relationships, an article mentions the system to track down the progress: "There is a whole section of the menu dedicated to your crew and detailing your relationship with each one, allowing you to keep track of where you stand. To demand a section of the menu means that relationships are a huge focus in Andromeda." It is probably like SWTOR, at least that the vibe I am getting from all the article I read about this.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Feb 24, 2017 17:11:00 GMT
One thing I always felt was missing in Mass Effect games is a LI's reaction to another NPC flirting with the player character. I would LOVE it if an NPC was flirting with Ryder and Cora interrupts up saying, "Back off this one is mine.", and then the conservation gets back to business and the NPC is a bit cowed. I already have this head canon where she is the older more experienced one, and knows exactly what she wants. And the unconfirmed leaks and short developer tweets are not helping. Still I look forward to seeing where things go with Cora. Pretty sure that will be in this one in some way as they seem to want to make the relationships far more than a checklist. Some of the previews went into a bit more detail about this: www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/02/23/mass-effect-andromeda-is-looking-good/Condominas spoke about how romance and relationships in Andromeda will involve more variety and shades of grey. “We know what type of character and personalities we want and we want you to interact with and we want you to have the choice to become, and we build from there. Whatever the nature of the relationship it has to be a natural conclusion of what the character is.” There is a whole section of the menu dedicated to your crew and detailing your relationship with each one, allowing you to keep track of where you stand. To demand a section of the menu means that relationships are a huge focus in Andromeda. My reaction: Would be very interested to find out what you guys perceive will make Cora 'happy' and equally whether initially our standing with her will be exceptionally low based on the fact that we've essentially usurped her to become the Pathfinder.
Pretty sure i'll be checking that menu often. Edit: Elder King beat me to it; guessing spoiler tags were unnecessary!
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 17:11:06 GMT
On the topic of relationships, an article mentions the system to track down the progress: "There is a whole section of the menu dedicated to your crew and detailing your relationship with each one, allowing you to keep track of where you stand. To demand a section of the menu means that relationships are a huge focus in Andromeda." It is probably like SWTOR, at least that the vibe I am getting from all the article I read about this. How did it work in TOR?
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Post by davesin on Feb 24, 2017 17:13:58 GMT
Well, if she's going to be "freaky"... do you think she's going to use her biotic powers during sex? Because it was implied by Mordin that Miranda and Jack might do that (and Liara was glowing blue during her scene). Makes me wander what they might do if both Ryder and Cora have Charge as their power... Which one of the crewmates is in charge of fixing a destroyed cabin? The mute one... because no one should know about what's happening in captain's cabin!
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 24, 2017 17:14:48 GMT
Well, if she's going to be "freaky"... do you think she's going to use her biotic powers during sex? Because it was implied by Mordin that Miranda and Jack might do that (and Liara was glowing blue during her scene). Makes me wander what they might do if both Ryder and Cora have Charge as their power... In Liara's case I think the biotic field is more to do with connecting to her partners nervous system\mind. I always wondered if Shepard and Liara had sex or if it was more a meeting of the minds and euphoria from their nervous system connecting. Charge...lmao. MY guess always was: The actual act of procreation for Asari is a totally hands off/biotic affair, so the sex is more of a payoff for the non Asari partner... so to speak. Not to say they don't enjoy that physical aspect of it too, mind you.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 17:26:54 GMT
It is probably like SWTOR, at least that the vibe I am getting from all the article I read about this. How did it work in TOR? You basically have a short story of what you did to that companion and how they dislike or like something that you did on quests. Also how much influence you have with them and likes and dislikes in certain quests can culminate in killing the companion or they going way... etc
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 17:28:40 GMT
You basically have a short story of what you did to that companion and how they dislike or like something that you did on quests. Also how much influence you have with them and likes and dislikes in certain quests can culminate in killing the companion or they going way... etc Thanks, that'd be pretty cool.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 24, 2017 17:55:40 GMT
You basically have a short story of what you did to that companion and how they dislike or like something that you did on quests. Also how much influence you have with them and likes and dislikes in certain quests can culminate in killing the companion or they going way... etc Thanks, that'd be pretty cool. Include the option to replay certain... scenes... and I'm all for it. Then again, that wold reach Witcher collectors cards level, I guess.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 19:02:51 GMT
Idk if this was answer in any preview but can FemRyder flirt with Cora? even if she is not available that still would be fun. I mean it is Cassandra all over again but I have an idea to a broken heart FemRyder too so...
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 19:24:13 GMT
Idk if this was answer in any preview but can FemRyder flirt with Cora? even if she is not available that still would be fun. I mean it is Cassandra all over again but I have an idea to a broken heart FemRyder too so... I think it'll be possible to flirt with anyone/almost any member of the squad/crew. Likely Sarah will be able to flirt with Cora.
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Post by jenova on Feb 24, 2017 19:47:53 GMT
Idk if this was answer in any preview but can FemRyder flirt with Cora? even if she is not available that still would be fun. I mean it is Cassandra all over again but I have an idea to a broken heart FemRyder too so... It seems unlikely she will be available for FemRyder, doesn't it because - Ashley, Miranda, Cassandra etc... untouchable. Just my opinion though
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Post by naytnavare on Feb 24, 2017 20:18:47 GMT
I want Cora to be bi so... headcanon asari huntress parties. 😈👿👉👌👅✌
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2017 20:42:25 GMT
So does anyone want to get any more information on Cora still? A decent amount of stuff has been revealed so far.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 20:44:07 GMT
So does anyone want to get any more information on Cora still? A decent amount of stuff has been revealed so far. I think I'd just like to see either a dialogue with her or some convo between her and another squad/crewmember on the Tempest.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 24, 2017 21:04:10 GMT
So does anyone want to get any more information on Cora still? A decent amount of stuff has been revealed so far. I can think of a few things.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 21:21:06 GMT
Idk if this was answer in any preview but can FemRyder flirt with Cora? even if she is not available that still would be fun. I mean it is Cassandra all over again but I have an idea to a broken heart FemRyder too so... It seems unlikely she will be available for FemRyder, doesn't it because - Ashley, Miranda, Cassandra etc... untouchable. Just my opinion though Oh I doubt it too but it gives the player RP value. And it seems no one talked about flirting with Cora with FemRyder and her reaction to it. At least I did not read anything, Cassandra was mostly fine with it... and it can be fun to do a Sara Lance type of character, that flirts with all the ladies in any time and space.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 24, 2017 21:21:43 GMT
Some spoilers, for those who want (about our relationship with her): It seems some tension will grow between Ryder and Cora, because she's technically their superior but doesn't end up becoming pathfinder. Nice, called it.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 21:23:15 GMT
It seems unlikely she will be available for FemRyder, doesn't it because - Ashley, Miranda, Cassandra etc... untouchable. Just my opinion though Oh I doubt it too but it gives the player RP value. And it seems no one talked about flirting with Cora with FemRyder and her reaction to it. At least I did not read anything. Cassandra was mostly fine with it... and it can be fun to do a Sara Lance type of character that flirts with all the ladies in any time and space. Side note, I really like Sara Lance too. In the previews they mention flirting with 3 out of 6 squadmates, so I don't think it's something strictly about Cora, and people could play Scott as well. Maybe there wasn't a flirt option in the dialogue available with her in the build.
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Post by Mihura on Feb 24, 2017 22:17:17 GMT
Oh I doubt it too but it gives the player RP value. And it seems no one talked about flirting with Cora with FemRyder and her reaction to it. At least I did not read anything. Cassandra was mostly fine with it... and it can be fun to do a Sara Lance type of character that flirts with all the ladies in any time and space. Side note, I really like Sara Lance too. In the previews they mention flirting with 3 out of 6 squadmates, so I don't think it's something strictly about Cora, and people could play Scott as well. Maybe there wasn't a flirt option in the dialogue available with her in the build. Sara Lance is one of the best subversion of The Casanova trope, so... what is not to love but I really hope we can flirt with Cora, that is like the bare minimal. So I find it strange that no one talked about it.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 24, 2017 22:28:01 GMT
Again, we don't get mentions of Scott flirting with Cora, and we do know she's a romance for him. I'm pretty sure there'll be flirting with her.
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Post by warbaby2 on Feb 24, 2017 22:29:19 GMT
Side note, I really like Sara Lance too. In the previews they mention flirting with 3 out of 6 squadmates, so I don't think it's something strictly about Cora, and people could play Scott as well. Maybe there wasn't a flirt option in the dialogue available with her in the build. Sara Lance is one of the best subversion of The Casanova trope, so... what is not to love but I really hope we can flirt with Cora, that is like the bare minimal. So I find it strange that no one talked about it. Genderbending James Bond is not really subversion imo... but she's a good character - the best of the LoT, in fact. That being said, we can't quite say what her actual character will be, but I sure hope she is more fun then Ashley or Cassandra... badass fighter woman CAN be fun too.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 22:36:01 GMT
BioWare has never locked flirting to specific genders, as far as I can remember. I flirted with Traynor and Sera, as examples, with my male Shepard and male Inquisitor. You can go all the way to the point of just about reaching the next level in the relationship... and then you get rejected. I'm sure that will be the case with most, if not all, of the squadmates in MEA as well. We already know that Suvi, as an example, seems to respond positively to flirting from BroRyder and SisRyder. More than likely, she'll be restricted to one gender.
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Post by Revan Reborn on Feb 24, 2017 22:38:25 GMT
Again, we don't get mentions of Scott flirting with Cora, and we do know she's a romance for him. I'm pretty sure there'll be flirting with her. I think flirting with Cora is probably going to be one of those things that doesn't come naturally or early on, such as with a character like Peebee. Possibly similar to Cassandra, who would just ignore your advances, I could envision Cora wanting to keep the relationship "professional" early on in the game.
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