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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 22:15:53 GMT
Well, I'd rather not because I had it with Liara and now I want a difference - a happy one, continuity with who I chose even if I'll be interested in someone else because as I said, I can always go back to MEA and end it without LI (I think I may actually do that just to have this scene with Cora on the bridge, but not anytime soon). Besides, PB just found her place. She tried to run from it, but end up accepting facts and dealing with them, opening up. She made it clear she want all the strings. Us breaking with her would break her heart way too much, to the point where she'd really never trust anyone again, us included. So I don't want that either. And we have a Ryder issues here too. Dad just died. The other twin was in coma and then badly tortured, almost killed. Fate of Ellen is still questionable. Way too much pressure and responsibility put on such young shoulders to handle. Not to mention, facing consequences of decisions we've made is coming up, you can bet some of them will be terrible because there will be no right decision (keeping or destroying the facility for example). Losing LI would be too much to handle so... I don't want that. Even if it'd have a happy ending. Sure, I get it. I didn't want any drama with my previous LIs, but lately I thought maybe some small drama would do some good. Maybe not now, cause I can't think of any reason Peebee would break up with Ryder anyway, but DA4 would be good for that. Either way.... Let's just remember that some characters in ME made 180 turn and they weren't the same. I hope it won't happen with Peebs, though... I'm pretty sure BW would try to push us towards new LIs as always and the next thing we know - Peebee doesn't want strings anymore, cause *reasons* They already proved a few times that it doesn't matter what a certain characters says - they can change it on a whim. They still gave Liara and Ash the best developement so I'm crossing my fingers for treating ladies in MEA the same. I'll never accept any drama that includes breaking up over something and getting together or betrayal. I can accept an option to break up or keep going, but nothing else.
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Post by Ashii6 on Apr 19, 2017 22:20:29 GMT
Sure, I get it. I didn't want any drama with my previous LIs, but lately I thought maybe some small drama would do some good. Maybe not now, cause I can't think of any reason Peebee would break up with Ryder anyway, but DA4 would be good for that. Either way.... Let's just remember that some characters in ME made 180 turn and they weren't the same. I hope it won't happen with Peebs, though... I'm pretty sure BW would try to push us towards new LIs as always and the next thing we know - Peebee doesn't want strings anymore, cause *reasons* They already proved a few times that it doesn't matter what a certain characters says - they can change it on a whim. They still gave Liara and Ash the best developement so I'm crossing my fingers for treating ladies in MEA the same. I'll never accept any drama that includes breaking up over something and getting together or betrayal. I can accept an option to break up or keep going, but nothing else. Liara? Yes. Ash? No. After her original writer left, BW had no idea what to do with her. She wasn't the same. Hell, we didn't even have any dialogues with her outside... weird drunk scene on the Normandy. Other convos involved only autodialogues. She didn't even talk with the rest of the crew like Kaidan did. He had more content than Ashley for sure. I'm still salty over that
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Post by Crim on Apr 19, 2017 22:21:47 GMT
Well, Shep died, it was outta our control. Almost destroyed poor Liara. :DD: Yeah, that's why I want to be able to continue a relationship in MEA through all of the games. There's no way in hell I won't end up loyal as hell to PB. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to end up my pt with Jaal and start with Cora because I miss her so much and the game just can't be short if you want Dunn to survive, ugh! I can't take Jaal srsly anymore, the romance thread really churned out some epic lols/memes yesterday, m'lady.
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Post by Crim on Apr 19, 2017 22:23:20 GMT
They still gave Liara and Ash the best developement so I'm crossing my fingers for treating ladies in MEA the same. I'll never accept any drama that includes breaking up over something and getting together or betrayal. I can accept an option to break up or keep going, but nothing else. Liara? Yes. Ash? No. After her original writer left, BW had no idea what to do with her. She wasn't the same. Hell, we didn't even have any dialogues with her outside... weird drunk scene on the Normandy. Other convos involved only autodialogues. She didn't even talk with the rest of the crew like Kaidan did. He had more content than Ashley for sure. I'm still salty over that Yup, was a shame how much little content was given to Ash in ME3 and I never liked that make-over look either.
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 22:29:02 GMT
They still gave Liara and Ash the best developement so I'm crossing my fingers for treating ladies in MEA the same. I'll never accept any drama that includes breaking up over something and getting together or betrayal. I can accept an option to break up or keep going, but nothing else. Liara? Yes. Ash? No. After her original writer left, BW had no idea what to do with her. She wasn't the same. Hell, we didn't even have any dialogues with her outside... weird drunk scene on the Normandy. Other convos involved only autodialogues. She didn't even talk with the rest of the crew like Kaidan did. He had more content than Ashley for sure. I'm still salty over that She was still way better than in ME1 and felt equal to Shepard even before they made her a Spectre. I loved hangover scene. And the Citadel DLC bar fight. And their little dinner. Her worrying about Liara too. And all her comments. She and Liara are usually my team in ME3.
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 22:33:04 GMT
Yeah, that's why I want to be able to continue a relationship in MEA through all of the games. There's no way in hell I won't end up loyal as hell to PB. I'm not even sure if I'll be able to end up my pt with Jaal and start with Cora because I miss her so much and the game just can't be short if you want Dunn to survive, ugh! I can't take Jaal srsly anymore, the romance thread really churned out some epic lols/memes yesterday, m'lady. I know what you mean, haha! He's special his own way. Ugly chest included :lmfao: Why the hell did they force us to see it in Liam's scene btw? It's so gross... But I like him more than I liked Cullen.
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Post by Ashii6 on Apr 19, 2017 22:36:48 GMT
Liara? Yes. Ash? No. After her original writer left, BW had no idea what to do with her. She wasn't the same. Hell, we didn't even have any dialogues with her outside... weird drunk scene on the Normandy. Other convos involved only autodialogues. She didn't even talk with the rest of the crew like Kaidan did. He had more content than Ashley for sure. I'm still salty over that She was still way better than in ME1 and felt equal to Shepard even before they made her a Spectre. I loved hangover scene. And the Citadel DLC bar fight. And their little dinner. Her worrying about Liara too. And all her comments. She and Liara are usually my team in ME3. Damn. Let's just agree to disagree on this one. I love Ashley, my fave character in the entire trilogy, but that's Ash from ME1, not ME2 or 3. She lost all her personality in 3, when Miranda's writer took over. I can't express how disappointed I felt after that. Well, anyway. I gotta go, werk werk and stuff like that. Night
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Post by Crim on Apr 19, 2017 22:40:28 GMT
I can't take Jaal srsly anymore, the romance thread really churned out some epic lols/memes yesterday, m'lady. I know what you mean, haha! He's special his own way. Ugly chest included :lmfao: Why the hell did they force us to see it in Liam's scene btw? It's so gross... But I like him more than I liked Cullen. My poor gay Sara... put on some clothes, FFS. I don't want to see this.
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 22:42:25 GMT
I know what you mean, haha! He's special his own way. Ugly chest included :lmfao: Why the hell did they force us to see it in Liam's scene btw? It's so gross... But I like him more than I liked Cullen. My poor gay Sara... put on some clothes, FFS. I don't want to see this. This scene is pure Ok, Liam's chest is kinda nice (could've been better built, but can't complain). But Jaal's...
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Post by Command0rk on Apr 19, 2017 22:50:05 GMT
Only played through once and I didn't kill Kalinda. Not sure I ever will. I liked the way loyalty missions were done this time around, the character makes a decision and you choose whether to interfere or not. In this case, Peebee chose to save Kalinda and I felt that was important for her closure and growth. So I didn't interfere. Is it too optimistic to hope Kalinda may change now? Definitely gave me Marjolane vibes, but, Marjolane is on a whole other level. Although the consequences in the future will probably be terrible. Kalinda is a horrible and abusive person. She'll use PB's good heart one way or another. I have to agree with the posts above. It's pretty extreme to shoot and kill someone hanging off a ledge when they haven't personally fired a shot at you. If Kalinda intended to kill Peebee she would have done it before they jumped. That said.. I am interested to see if there are future consequences one way or the other. edit : Apologies! That was a lot further back than it appeared
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 22:58:44 GMT
Although the consequences in the future will probably be terrible. Kalinda is a horrible and abusive person. She'll use PB's good heart one way or another. I have to agree with the posts above. It's pretty extreme to shoot and kill someone hanging off a ledge when they haven't personally fired a shot at you. If Kalinda intended to kill Peebee she would have done it before they jumped. That said.. I am interested to see if there are future consequences one way or the other. edit : Apologies! That was a lot further back than it appeared She had like a 100 people hired to shoot at us, isn't that enough? She broke onto my ship, took PB's stuff, broke it, left it like a trash, hired and ordered people to kill us, mentally and verbally abused my LI and could've still kill her when hanging off that ledge. I'd rather shoot the bitch down and prevent her from harming PB again and potentially the rest of my crew.
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Post by Crim on Apr 19, 2017 23:34:21 GMT
My poor gay Sara... put on some clothes, FFS. I don't want to see this. This scene is pure Ok, Liam's chest is kinda nice (could've been better built, but can't complain). But Jaal's... I've seen more of Jaal than I wanted to have seen, some things are better left a mystery.
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Post by Command0rk on Apr 19, 2017 23:36:27 GMT
I have to agree with the posts above. It's pretty extreme to shoot and kill someone hanging off a ledge when they haven't personally fired a shot at you. If Kalinda intended to kill Peebee she would have done it before they jumped. That said.. I am interested to see if there are future consequences one way or the other. edit : Apologies! That was a lot further back than it appeared She had like a 100 people hired to shoot at us, isn't that enough? She broke onto my ship, took PB's stuff, broke it, left it like a trash, hired and ordered people to kill us, mentally and verbally abused my LI and could've still kill her when hanging off that ledge. I'd rather shoot the bitch down and prevent her from harming PB again and potentially the rest of my crew. I still think killing someone is extreme regardless of the emotive language put to it. At the end of the day if Peebee chose to save Kalinda is it really Ryder's place to decide she needs to die? That's what it comes down to for me. And yeah, like I said, if Kalinda really wanted Peebee dead she had countless opportunities, even well before the volcano incident, to do so.
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 23:42:38 GMT
She had like a 100 people hired to shoot at us, isn't that enough? She broke onto my ship, took PB's stuff, broke it, left it like a trash, hired and ordered people to kill us, mentally and verbally abused my LI and could've still kill her when hanging off that ledge. I'd rather shoot the bitch down and prevent her from harming PB again and potentially the rest of my crew. I still think killing someone is extreme regardless of the emotive language put to it. At the end of the day if Peebee chose to save Kalinda is it really Ryder's place to decide she needs to die? That's what it comes down to for me. And yeah, like I said, if Kalinda really wanted Peebee dead she had countless opportunities, even well before the volcano incident, to do so. So I guess you let that kett lady go away if you chose to save Angara instead of destroying facility too? Because she was outnumebred? No, sometimes it's better to kill someone to prevent this person from doing more harm - let Rana be an example of it. If you don't kill her in ME1, she tortures and kills many Asari. PB has a good heart which Kalinda will use for sure if we save her. Before the volcano she threw PB like a trash because she wasn't useful anymore for her. And with Pathfinder by her side later on it was impossible for Kalinda to even touch her. Volcano was a culmination. Ordering people to kill us she made it perfectly clear what she wants - us dead.
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Post by izut on Apr 19, 2017 23:45:08 GMT
This scene is pure Ok, Liam's chest is kinda nice (could've been better built, but can't complain). But Jaal's... I've seen more of Jaal than I wanted to have seen, some things are better left a mystery. Just bought deluxe expansion... screw Jaal and Cora, I'm starting with PB once again right after I come back home from work Waifu, hoodie and pyjak, I'm coming!
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Post by Command0rk on Apr 19, 2017 23:55:02 GMT
I still think killing someone is extreme regardless of the emotive language put to it. At the end of the day if Peebee chose to save Kalinda is it really Ryder's place to decide she needs to die? That's what it comes down to for me. And yeah, like I said, if Kalinda really wanted Peebee dead she had countless opportunities, even well before the volcano incident, to do so. So I guess you let that kett lady go away if you chose to save Angara instead of destroying facility too? Because she was unarmed? No, sometimes it's better to kill someone to prevent this person from doing more harm - let Rana be an example of it. If you don't kill her in ME1, she tortures and kills many Asari. PB has a good heart which Kalinda will use for sure if we save her. Before the volcano she threw PB like a trash because she wasn't useful anymore for her. And with Pathfinder by her side later on it was impossible for Kalinda to even touch her. Volcano was a culmination. Ordering people to kill us she made it perfectly clear what she wants - us dead. I didn't mention anything about being unarmed or not. Regardless, the two choices are too different to compare, I feel. The Cardinal comes across as a religious zealot, and clearly has no intention of changing her ways. She's a known enemy, letting her go doesn't make much sense, agreed? And using someone and bombing a facility under Indoctrination are pretty different too Maybe I'm a bit too sympathetic, but.. I feel Kalinda has the capacity to change. Unlike say, Marjolane, who was clearly a stone cold killer. Anyway, we clearly disagree for varying reason, but thank you for indulging me after the bulk of the issue has already been discussed a few pages back. I always seem to miss this stuff.
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Post by Crim on Apr 20, 2017 0:04:27 GMT
I've seen more of Jaal than I wanted to have seen, some things are better left a mystery. Just bought deluxe expansion... screw Jaal and Cora, I'm starting with PB once again right after I come back home from work Waifu, hoodie and pyjak, I'm coming! But that was the whole point of your trophy run tho?
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Post by izut on Apr 20, 2017 0:13:53 GMT
Just bought deluxe expansion... screw Jaal and Cora, I'm starting with PB once again right after I come back home from work Waifu, hoodie and pyjak, I'm coming! But that was the whole point of your trophy run tho? I can do them later? I gotta do first things with PB again. Pyjak and hoodie are a part of it. Can't help it!
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Post by smilesja on Apr 20, 2017 0:52:09 GMT
I know what you mean, haha! He's special his own way. Ugly chest included :lmfao: Why the hell did they force us to see it in Liam's scene btw? It's so gross... But I like him more than I liked Cullen. My poor gay Sara... put on some clothes, FFS. I don't want to see this. Admit it, you know you liked it! XD
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Post by Crim on Apr 20, 2017 5:20:01 GMT
My poor gay Sara... put on some clothes, FFS. I don't want to see this. Admit it, you know you liked it! XD
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Post by davkar on Apr 20, 2017 7:58:52 GMT
Exactly. She deserves and NEEDS freedom. She's been hurt by Kalinda way too deep to ever forgive her. She was used by her way too many times. Even waking her up was to use her and when PB stopped being useful, she simply threw her out like a trash. By being treated like that for who knows how long, PB end up with trust issues and in constant fear of getting too attached - if you team up with her and Jaal, Jaal once says he saw her packing, unpacking, packing again and unpacking... many times. That's why when she finally accepts she belong somewhere it's so big for her and she's so nervous. Everyone felt she's a part of their little Tempest family. Everyone except of her (Vetra or Drack even said "It's about time"). It's even bigger if we romance her because you can see how much it means for her to have a place where she belogs and a person who she can completely trust, without fear of being treated like a trash again. The way her voice quiver... It's huge. And it gives you this feeling of well deserved happiness. Quoting myself because I forgot to add that I find no zero-g deeper because of all the above. You earn her feelings and trust, you want her to be special and you want this relationship to be special. You pretty much say you'll wait until she is really ready and sure of what she feels and really wants. My only problem with the no-zg is the pacing. The scene is available relatively early, then I had like ~30+ hours of other gameplay stuff before the lock. Ultimately there's no right or wrong regarding the zero-g. Personally I'll go for no-strings from now on. That way the romance can get a 'beat her at her own game' layer added to it. We play by her rules but after so much and frequent tangling the strings develop on their own.
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Post by phantomrachie on Apr 20, 2017 8:25:03 GMT
More like all the time She can even act like a child sometimes and she's terrible at flirting (kiddo could use some lessons :lmfao: ). But I like it about her. She's so different from Shepard, who I love too, but Shep is a soldier first in ME1 and ME2. Only ME3 showed her vulnerable and humane face. With Sara we've got a real human with issues, fears, emotions, everything, right from the beginning. Hey... I'm a few years older than Sara and I can't flirt for shit :sob: I love both Shep and Ryder, but to be honest, I prefer Ryder. She's more human, she doesn't act like a robot without emotions like Shep in ME1 and 2. ME3 was a bit better with this, but it was still not enough. This is also why I loved FemHawke in DA2. She's my fave BW protag ever. Ryder has a second place and I truly hope we'll play as her in Andromeda 2. Lady Hawke rules. I will forever be sad that BioWare decided not to do a full expansion to DA2, I love that game. She will always survive DA:I, no matter which save I've imported as she is miles better than all three possible Wardens. As for zero-g versus non-zero g, I'm all conflicted now. I'm doing my cannon run at the moment and I had originally decided to stick with zero-g since I like the scene, it means the romance has better pacing and I've been RPing this Sara has logically during missions but getting more casual on the tempest as she gets to know her crew, so the zero-g scene fits in with that. BUT there have been lot of good arguments for not doing on this thread. I've many hours to go before I get to it though so plenty of time to decided. Kallinda is getting shot though.
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Post by Ashii6 on Apr 20, 2017 9:00:14 GMT
I've seen more of Jaal than I wanted to have seen, some things are better left a mystery. Just bought deluxe expansion... screw Jaal and Cora, I'm starting with PB once again right after I come back home from work Waifu, hoodie and pyjak, I'm coming! Okay Just give me an option. Couldn't resist. I'm gonna buy mine deluxe upgrade later as well. I still haven't finished with my current PT, so it won't be wasted. Currently I'm just driving on Voeld, trying to trigger some party banter with Peebs with others.
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Post by izut on Apr 20, 2017 9:59:54 GMT
Just bought deluxe expansion... screw Jaal and Cora, I'm starting with PB once again right after I come back home from work Waifu, hoodie and pyjak, I'm coming! Okay Just give me an option. Couldn't resist. I'm gonna by mine deluxe upgrade later as well. I still haven't finished with my current PT, so it won't be wasted. Currently I'm just driving on Voeld, trying to trigger some party banter with Peebs with others. Started my 2nd pt with Peebee, just end up Habitat 7 I'll surely do 100% of it this time, all tasks included. And then NG+
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Post by bezul on Apr 20, 2017 11:34:07 GMT
I have all the platinums of the original trilogy, but this... THIS trophy-> Matchmaker Complete romances with three different characters across all playthroughs. I can't not romance Peebee :sob: Sorry about my english, spanish brain :poop: Peebee
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