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Post by darchangeldavid on Apr 30, 2017 13:51:00 GMT
Honestly I wish they would fix two things. One the flirt option should say at least 5 different things randomly. Second when you are officially in a relationship with PeeBee you exit speech should change just like hers changes when you start a discussion with her. It should be more romantic. Similar to how she says "Yes. What ever it is". I don't mind the flirt option as is. I like the fact it changes when you are in a relationship. I do agree on the exit dialogue. It's very jarring when you are romantically involved and Ryder exiting dialogue kills the mood completely. My flirt dialog only said something different once and then it went back to "I like it when you flirt".
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Post by izut on Apr 30, 2017 16:28:23 GMT
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Post by ektalion on Apr 30, 2017 17:28:59 GMT
So I did Peebee's quest and spared Kalinda, It was really tough to resist the temptation to kill her though. She lucky with U. Cause i kill her, when i was pathing the game 2nd time. Really annoying and selfish person. I'm sure , that she will continue to terrorize Peebee.
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Post by izut on Apr 30, 2017 20:52:49 GMT
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Post by wright1978 on May 2, 2017 8:08:35 GMT
Really enjoying my second playthrough and finding my favourite dialogue choices with Peebee. Ryder's gone for a purple outfit to match Peebee's jacket.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 2, 2017 8:36:54 GMT
If you use different definitions than the norm for words like "distressing" or "objective" then you need to state what definition you're using at the start of the conversation so everyone knows what you are talking about. Claiming an action causes you distress means that you have a problem with it (because it's causing you extreme anxiety, sorrow, or pain), the implication of that is that you are passing judgment on people who complete the action that causes you distress. For example, now I need to ask what you mean by 'taken advantage of' because usually when a person says that someone 'took advantage of them' in a relationship, they mean that they experienced some form of emotional or physical abuse, but you've said that you use different definitions that vary from the norm so now I don't know what you mean. If that is not what you meant, then that is fair enough. I'd recommend you choose words that reflect what you mean for future conversations. Are you serious? Someone who takes advantage of another no matter how minor such as simply hurt feelings or bruised pride is guilty of abuse? Maybe because I am a bit older(I suspect) then most gamers on this forum, but I grew up with it being part of teenage romance, and learning relationships. And to clarify I don't mean putting someone down until they feel worthless or trapped, or physically assaulting them. Growing up I was taken advantage of, and took advantage of others, it wasn't always intentional. I can now look back and say "She was a bit of a jerk", or "I was a bit of a jerk". It was part of learning relationships and what type of person I was attracted to and what type of people were attracted to me. To this day my wife can manipulate me into doing something I don't want. And it neither harms me emotionally or physically, I may grumble and complain but I do it. She knows me enough to take advantage of my quirks and attitude, and it isn't abuse. I find it funny, sad and a bit like trying to avoid a land mine with how some phrases now seem to have very different meanings from when I was a teenager/college student. It has gotten in me a few...disagreements...on these forums before. It's all about context - saying a person took advantage of you, can mean many things based on the context. Sometimes it's abuse of sexual assault, sometimes it is defrauding a person, sometimes it's a minor thing that ends in hurt feelings. Generally those it means one person did something very bad to another person, I don't think I've ever heard a person use that term and it not be referring to something pretty bad. In fiction, people tend to use the phrase 'they took advantage of me' to mean some kind of physical or emotional abuse without having to say the words sexual assault or rape which would increase the rating on the work of fiction or because the sensibilities of the time prevented those words from being used. Since fiction started to use the phrase in this way most people use it in those terms. I can't image you are much older than me and you are on a video game forum so I find it odd that you are unaware of the modern context with that phrase. Particularly since it' is not that modern, Agatha Christie used similar phrases to refer to abuse. Communication can only happen when everyone understands the definition of the words being used, so again I'd recommend that you call out any special definitions you are using in a conversation. I still don't know what you mean by distressing or objective.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 3, 2017 11:00:28 GMT
I was thinking about some of Peebee dialogue with Drack. She referring her time growing up and how the fact that her mother was a matriarch meant that her house was very stuffy.
This seems very different to the picture painted by Liara and her relationship with her mother, who was also a matriarch. Peebee seems to think that all matriarchs are like her mother, so I was wondering which parental relationship was more typical for the daughters of matriarchs.
Is Peebee's view of matriarchs coloured by her relationship with her mother or does she have a more realistic view than Liara's.
I mean ultimately each individual is different but there are a number of different views on Asari Matriarch's in Mass Effect and I was wondering what the general consensus among fans is.
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Post by wright1978 on May 3, 2017 12:20:20 GMT
Well Liara & Peebee seem very different characters so what they might consider stuffy would be different. I'd think by the matriarch stage Peebee's experience might be more likely.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 3, 2017 13:06:25 GMT
Well Liara & Peebee seem very different characters so what they might consider stuffy would be different. I'd think by the matriarch stage Peebee's experience might be more likely. yes that is very true. Liara played archaeologist as a child which is not something I could see Peebee doing. It just got me thinking because the handful of matriarch we do meet don't seem to fit Peebee's description BUT Peebee's description of them does seem to make sense, based on the codex and Aethyta, Asari Matriarch's do seem to be cautious which would frustration a person like Peebee and the Matriarchs we do meet are in unusual circumstances so they are bound to be different from the norm e.g. Benezia, Aethyta, & Samara
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Post by izut on May 3, 2017 14:53:43 GMT
I was thinking about some of Peebee dialogue with Drack. She referring her time growing up and how the fact that her mother was a matriarch meant that her house was very stuffy. This seems very different to the picture painted by Liara and her relationship with her mother, who was also a matriarch. Peebee seems to think that all matriarchs are like her mother, so I was wondering which parental relationship was more typical for the daughters of matriarchs. Is Peebee's view of matriarchs coloured by her relationship with her mother or does she have a more realistic view than Liara's. I mean ultimately each individual is different but there are a number of different views on Asari Matriarch's in Mass Effect and I was wondering what the general consensus among fans is. Liara's mom was well known and had an important role in their society so Liara's life and experience were completely different from Peebee's. PB's mom was probably like most matriarch's while Liara's was a part of aristocracy.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 3, 2017 15:52:51 GMT
I was thinking about some of Peebee dialogue with Drack. She referring her time growing up and how the fact that her mother was a matriarch meant that her house was very stuffy. This seems very different to the picture painted by Liara and her relationship with her mother, who was also a matriarch. Peebee seems to think that all matriarchs are like her mother, so I was wondering which parental relationship was more typical for the daughters of matriarchs. Is Peebee's view of matriarchs coloured by her relationship with her mother or does she have a more realistic view than Liara's. I mean ultimately each individual is different but there are a number of different views on Asari Matriarch's in Mass Effect and I was wondering what the general consensus among fans is. Liara's mom was well known and had an important role in their society so Liara's life and experience were completely different from Peebee's. PB's mom was probably like most matriarch's while Liara's was a part of aristocracy. Asari don't have an aristocracy, they have direct democracy and while some matriarchs seem to have more influence than others, most seem to fill some kind of government or leadership role. Many Asari we meet refer to the matriarchs as a group when speaking about Asari government. Plus we don't really know anything about Peebee's mother and nothing we know about her suggests that she wouldn't be influential. We know 4 things: She has at least two children She didn't get on with Peebee She mated exclusively with other Asari apart from Peebee's Dad She married/dated an Elcor That doesn't tell us anything about her role in Asari society.
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Post by izut on May 3, 2017 16:12:53 GMT
Liara's mom was well known and had an important role in their society so Liara's life and experience were completely different from Peebee's. PB's mom was probably like most matriarch's while Liara's was a part of aristocracy. Asari don't have an aristocracy, they have direct democracy and while some matriarchs seem to have more influence than others, most seem to fill some kind of government or leadership role. Many Asari we meet refer to the matriarchs as a group when speaking about Asari government. Plus we don't really know anything about Peebee's mother and nothing we know about her suggests that she wouldn't be influential. We know 4 things: She has at least two children She didn't get on with Peebee She mated exclusively with other Asari apart from Peebee's Dad She married/dated an Elcor That doesn't tell us anything about her role in Asari society. Yeah, but with the position Benezia held you could say it was compared to our aristocracy - she was high, well known, rich and had a lot to say among Asari. About what we know from PB - her sis is pureblood, 500 years older from her and became matriarch before PB even joined Initiative. PB was raised by both - her mom and her sis. She was born in Port Lerama, Hyetiana: So I don't think her mom held any high possition tbh. It's not Thessia, after all.
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Post by Sifr on May 4, 2017 6:27:53 GMT
Do we know that Peebee's sister actually is a Matriarch, or was she comparing to one, implying she's a bit bossy, self-important and has a predilection for telling everyone else what to do?
Could picture young Asari sarcastically using "Matriarch" to describe anyone bossy, kinda like when people use the expression "Okay, Mum!" in a similar manner.
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Post by phantomrachie on May 4, 2017 12:16:19 GMT
Asari don't have an aristocracy, they have direct democracy and while some matriarchs seem to have more influence than others, most seem to fill some kind of government or leadership role. Many Asari we meet refer to the matriarchs as a group when speaking about Asari government. Plus we don't really know anything about Peebee's mother and nothing we know about her suggests that she wouldn't be influential. We know 4 things: She has at least two children She didn't get on with Peebee She mated exclusively with other Asari apart from Peebee's Dad She married/dated an Elcor That doesn't tell us anything about her role in Asari society. Yeah, but with the position Benezia held you could say it was compared to our aristocracy - she was high, well known, rich and had a lot to say among Asari. About what we know from PB - her sis is pureblood, 500 years older from her and became matriarch before PB even joined Initiative. PB was raised by both - her mom and her sis. She was born in Port Lerama, Hyetiana: So I don't think her mom held any high possition tbh. It's not Thessia, after all. But doesn't most of the lore about Asari indicate that Matriarchs hold important positions kinda by default due to their age? Some are more important than others sure, but they all seem to have some type of political clout if they want it. Quote from codex: The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or earlier if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space.
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Post by raikas on May 4, 2017 13:37:24 GMT
Do we know that Peebee's sister actually is a Matriarch, or was she comparing to one, implying she's a bit bossy, self-important and has a predilection for telling everyone else what to do? Could picture young Asari sarcastically using "Matriarch" to describe anyone bossy, kinda like when people use the expression "Okay, Mum!" in a similar manner. I could picture that in general, but PeeBee says it while specifically describing their age difference, so it sounds like it was meant literally.
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Post by izut on May 4, 2017 14:52:30 GMT
Yeah, but with the position Benezia held you could say it was compared to our aristocracy - she was high, well known, rich and had a lot to say among Asari. About what we know from PB - her sis is pureblood, 500 years older from her and became matriarch before PB even joined Initiative. PB was raised by both - her mom and her sis. She was born in Port Lerama, Hyetiana: So I don't think her mom held any high possition tbh. It's not Thessia, after all. But doesn't most of the lore about Asari indicate that Matriarchs hold important positions kinda by default due to their age? Some are more important than others sure, but they all seem to have some type of political clout if they want it. Quote from codex: The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or earlier if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space. It doesn't mean they hold any high position like Benezia did. Just look at Aethyta
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Post by phantomrachie on May 4, 2017 15:13:48 GMT
But doesn't most of the lore about Asari indicate that Matriarchs hold important positions kinda by default due to their age? Some are more important than others sure, but they all seem to have some type of political clout if they want it. Quote from codex: The Matriarch stage begins around 700 years of age, or earlier if the individual melds rarely. Matriarchs become active in their community as sages and councilors, dispensing wisdom from centuries of experience. Their knowledge and guidance may be one reason why Matriarchs are rarely seen outside asari space. It doesn't mean they hold any high position like Benezia did. Just look at Aethyta But Matriarchs like Aethyta & Samara are the exception. Aethyta herself says that she left because the other Matriarchs wouldn't listen to her advice. There can, of course, be exceptions to the usual roles. Liara isn't like most maidens but that doesn't mean that in general Asari maidens aren't wilder than she is. Peebee's description of her mother makes her sound like a traditional Asari Matriarch which would mean acting as a sage or councilor rather than a bartender like Aethyta.
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Post by izut on May 4, 2017 15:36:28 GMT
It doesn't mean they hold any high position like Benezia did. Just look at Aethyta But Matriarchs like Aethyta & Samara are the exception. Aethyta herself says that she left because the other Matriarchs wouldn't listen to her advice. There can, of course, be exceptions to the usual roles. Liara isn't like most maidens but that doesn't mean that in general Asari maidens aren't wilder than she is. Peebee's description of her mother makes her sound like a traditional Asari Matriarch which would mean acting as a sage or councilor rather than a bartender like Aethyta. Aethyta working as a bartender was just to keep an eye on Liara though She belonged to a different group than Sages which hints there're groups. PB's mom could've been a great scientist - they lived in a rplace known from research.
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Post by chugster on May 4, 2017 19:12:46 GMT
Can someone let me know if the choice you make at the end of Peebees's LM (in regards of Kalinda) has any effect on your Romance with Peebee? I didnt click the mouse before and was planning on clicking it this time, but i wont if it affects anything
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Can someone let me know if the choice you make at the end of Peebees's LM (in regards of Kalinda) has any effect on your Romance with Peebee? I didnt click the mouse before and was planning on clicking it this time, but i wont if it affects anything Regardless of what you chose to do with Kalinda in her LM, it has no effect on your ability to continue Peebee's romance.
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Can someone let me know if the choice you make at the end of Peebees's LM (in regards of Kalinda) has any effect on your Romance with Peebee? I didnt click the mouse before and was planning on clicking it this time, but i wont if it affects anything If by clicking the mouse you mean shooting her then don't be afraid. PB will be fine with you and she'll get an amazing tech Let the volcano eat some meat
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Post by phantomrachie on May 5, 2017 7:34:57 GMT
But Matriarchs like Aethyta & Samara are the exception. Aethyta herself says that she left because the other Matriarchs wouldn't listen to her advice. There can, of course, be exceptions to the usual roles. Liara isn't like most maidens but that doesn't mean that in general Asari maidens aren't wilder than she is. Peebee's description of her mother makes her sound like a traditional Asari Matriarch which would mean acting as a sage or councilor rather than a bartender like Aethyta. Aethyta working as a bartender was just to keep an eye on Liara though She belonged to a different group than Sages which hints there're groups. PB's mom could've been a great scientist - they lived in a rplace known from research. That is a good point. So many characters just refer to matriarchs as a singular group but it would make sense that there would be at least different political factions.
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