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Post by Clyde on Aug 5, 2016 20:23:46 GMT
My only regret is the Demolisher thread I wrote. That was a work of art, I thought.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 20:37:42 GMT
Aug 5, 2016 16:19:12 GMT -4 Babar Guy said:
Maybe they'll get around to start handing out bans for that thread around the time when the forums have been deleted. They'll send people notices informing them they've been banned via mail.
You know they're going to do it, too.
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Post by Babar Guy on Aug 5, 2016 20:42:54 GMT
I fully do expect to get at least a temp ban for that thread since I went around the profanity filter twice and of course for the much greater crime of discussing their moderation.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 20:43:07 GMT
Hey Jeremiah, Are you at liberty to discuss (as far as you suspect) how and/or why they're doing this? I'm just super curious in view of your remarks in the "Please Stop" thread (and invested, as only a longtime regular to the BSN can be). I suspect there was some misunderstanding, which make perfect sense because I was unable to be clear without violating the "unwritten" rules. Essentially there was no way to explain why I knew that it wasn't people reporting us or a single rogue mod without overtly explaining what was happening with moderation. Basically, Mods 2, 3, 6, and 10 are systemically going through groups. There's no way this is a coincidence that all 4 of them are trolling through posts from 2014 in public forums and private groups, and warning/banning/permabanning people for things they posted years ago. So at least 4 mods are doing it, and doing it so intently that they're ignoring the rest of the forums. No amount of reporting would result in that. As to why? Best I can come up with is that they're total assholes. I just can't come up with anything else.
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Post by Sir Thomas "Bullhead" Servo on Aug 5, 2016 20:46:05 GMT
Gotcha. Yeah, I was left with the impression that you had some sort of "insider knowledge" or some technical insight as to what precisely was happening (I guess the latter is more or less true). It was all very suggestive.
Christ, what an ignominious end for a terrific community.
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Post by Babar Guy on Aug 5, 2016 20:47:09 GMT
As to why? Best I can come up with is that they're total assholes. I just can't come up with anything else.
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Aug 5, 2016 20:48:12 GMT
Got a 2 week ban end of July for some Random Generator & another group posts that came with 2 warnings. The ban ended, I was permabanned an hour later for "spamming the forums with porn again" even though the posts were months old. It is what it is. I appreciate you asking though. Was it S.P.A.M? That's a damn shame though! I had a feeling that one was going to get nuked if the mods were looking through groups. If it makes you guys feel any better, those pics did not go unappreciated And sorry to hear about your ban, Clyde. I need to look through the Church of Pearl group now because I'm pretty sure I have said some things about their shitty moderation over there. If I don't make it back, go on without me.
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Post by Sir Thomas "Bullhead" Servo on Aug 5, 2016 20:49:05 GMT
And I guess they're just locking the groups too?
I don't understand why they don't just lock the groups, period, and then just get their mod jollies on the present and ensuing forum posts full of justifiably angry people.
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Post by PATPATPATlol on Aug 5, 2016 21:03:35 GMT
I wonder if they're afraid of what some might do on the 26th and are just trying to get rid of potential trouble makers. That's my theory. Probably don't want to deal with a bunch of porn posts in one evening.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 21:11:43 GMT
Okay, so...
I wrote an impassioned plea in Code Blue/Muh Waifu... it would be described as a... um... how would I put this... "guilt trip."
Anyway, they unlocked the group. I can't say the dust has settled or if they moved on, or what.
The whole thing is just so fucking dumb, but in any case, I suspect they've moved on to other groups, so wouldn't be a bad idea for people to have a look if it's happening to theirs.
The first warning sign to look for is posts hidden by "Mod #x". They'll either start at the oldest or most recent posts. If you have the power to delete posts, figure out which end they started from, and get ahead of them. Then just delete, delete, delete.
Anything that combines multiple violations should be prioritized. They're going after nudity and swearing and discussing moderation, so all those three are what to look for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 21:50:08 GMT
Luckily I don't give a fuck about Bioware's BSN anymore. I might spam some santa hats though nearer the end.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 22:15:39 GMT
So, I share in here... The offsite Code Blue, which we made more or less parallel to this forum on the same boards, has several things going on in protest. Allow me to describe you one offsite version of a BSN/TBF private group ravaged by the mods: First off, our version of the female symbol under avatars is happy dancing animated tacos. Our male symbol is a gif of a wiggling penis.* Our main stickied thread has had its title changed to "FUCK THE MODS." *Okay, it's not a penis. It's a tiny gif of "that sausage" from Game of Thrones. Still, tho'!
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Post by rapscallioness on Aug 5, 2016 22:49:04 GMT
..hmm. EA is breathing down their necks to hurry up and run everybody off, or whomever runs the bots, if that's case.
All of this has a very similar vibe to The Burning Times of the ME3 backlash. The passive, but really more aggressive antagonism towards the BSN in particular. It's the same kind of little b!tch/d!ck moves.
IIRC, during the Burning Times they brought in some supposedly hot shot top PR person ( I think from another part of EA?) to try and handle it. IMO, the PR handling of the backlash was actually worse and angered more people than the endings/game itself.
It's the same petty bs. It feels like they brought in this same person, or team, --probably in a lead up to promoting MEA?
Whoever this person, or people are, I'm going to say it, they need to be let go. Seriously. This is the kind of antagonistic nonsense that went a long way in helping EA become Worst Company of the Year.
I mean, how do you get into a friggin pissing contest with your own customers? The ones that buy all your crap, at that. Even the side crap, and multiple copies of products.
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Post by LFS on Aug 5, 2016 22:57:40 GMT
Since the moderation is outsourced, maybe the mod company is salty they're losing a client and are going all in before the deadline. Perhaps they're paid by the ban?
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 23:00:53 GMT
It's a complicated web, to be honest.
But clearly, in light of the announcement, the mods hired by the "third party company" have chosen to be giant dick-heads. I know that there are BioWare developers unhappy with their behaviour, and I know there are some BW staff that aren't. At the moment, I just don't feel like I should have to sort out BioWare's behind the scenes shit.
Like, clearly, the mods don't give a fuck how anyone in BioWare development feels, but shouldn't SOMEONE in the company have the ability to say, "Hey, maybe don't be monumental pricks to the community for literally no productive reason?"
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 23:03:14 GMT
Hmm... I might still be a little mad.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 5, 2016 23:06:25 GMT
Oh, man. They're really adding the maximum amount of spite to this dumpster fire, aren't they? What is this supposed to accomplish? Make the flames smell differently? It seems a very petty thing to do.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 5, 2016 23:08:46 GMT
..hmm. EA is breathing down their necks to hurry up and run everybody off, or whomever runs the bots, if that's case. All of this has a very similar vibe to The Burning Times of the ME3 backlash. The passive, but really more aggressive antagonism towards the BSN in particular. It's the same kind of little b!tch/d!ck moves. IIRC, during the Burning Times they brought in some supposedly hot shot top PR person ( I think from another part of EA?) to try and handle it. IMO, the PR handling of the backlash was actually worse and angered more people than the endings/game itself. It's the same petty bs. It feels like they brought in this same person, or team, --probably in a lead up to promoting MEA? Whoever this person, or people are, I'm going to say it, they need to be let go. Seriously. This is the kind of antagonistic nonsense that went a long way in helping EA become Worst Company of the Year. I mean, how do you get into a friggin pissing contest with your own customers? The ones that buy all your crap, at that. Even the side crap, and multiple copies of products.
I wish I could press like five million more times on this. What they did during The Burning times is akin to handling a ghost ant infestation incorrectly. I have seen a lot of predictions that Bioware/EA will open up another forum for Andromeda or additional IP's or whatever but I have to scratch my head at that because how are they going to prevent former rightfully pissed off fans from BSN from joining? Do they really think that we are just going to go "eh who cares" and wander off and forget the way they handled this?
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Post by rapscallioness on Aug 5, 2016 23:20:07 GMT
Alot of people do, though. They may not forget, but they let it sliiiide. However, there comes a point when they extinguish any spark of passion, or joy for the product/company. There comes a point when you "win"...enjoy your prize.
Right now they're just over there trying to catch people Ridin' Dirty.
Typical.
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Post by mrsanomaly on Aug 5, 2016 23:24:35 GMT
Yeah Raps: I'm not on buying all games used for any Biower stuff, whereas prior, I was gimme right now auto preorder collectors addition yesterday.
It burns me not to do it for MEA, but fuck them.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 5, 2016 23:56:18 GMT
Technically, this didn't impact my decision to buy ME:A because I'm mad about closing the forum (although it sure made it harder to convince me to.)
It impacted my decision because removing the forum and the attached QA we received from BioWare for ME 3 makes me convinced there's no point in even loading up ME:A MP.
Honestly, with no metadata to help, no team from BioWare working with us, and nowhere to deposit the information where people can get at it?
ME:A MP is a failure before it even started. They killed it before releasing their game.
That's gotta be hard on the developers who've been working on it.
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Post by Crim on Aug 6, 2016 3:06:30 GMT
Hmm... I might still be a little mad. It made our good friend sellout too #Devastated
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 3:17:07 GMT
Hmm... I might still be a little mad. It made our good friend sellout too #Devastated Well, some of this happened ages ago. And we only found out about it recently. #NOTBITTER
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Post by Crim on Aug 6, 2016 3:34:24 GMT
It made our good friend sellout too #Devastated Well, some of this happened ages ago. And we only found out about it recently. #NOTBITTER How did I miss the signs tho, how could I not see? I failed him.
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Post by Jeremiah12LGeek on Aug 6, 2016 3:50:18 GMT
Well, thing seem to have settled.
Jeff Roussel visited my profile.
That's definitely not good. I don't know what it was about, but if jeff roussel was there, it was definitely a big conversation. They don't bring him in to chat if shit ain't goin' down, so... yep.
No idea what my fate is.
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