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Post by maxon on Dec 6, 2016 23:22:55 GMT
Rio - never liked it
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Post by ProthyProthean on Dec 7, 2016 2:20:34 GMT
Glacier.
I just like to choose the range of engagement and don't like being forced into mid-to-close quarters combat for 11 straight rounds. Someone above called it "claustrophobic"...sounds 'bout right to me.
...and I like Rio...as long as I've got grenades.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 7, 2016 2:36:23 GMT
Been getting this map a lot lately. Think I just came out of my third Rio match today. Don't mind it as much now, but used to be one of my least, if not least, favourite. |
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 7, 2016 2:52:03 GMT
  Giant. Giant never changes. |
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Dec 7, 2016 3:50:21 GMT
Oh yes.
Also, Ghost/Hazard Ghost because I, personally, do not like them. 
Also, based on personal experience with Terminator Force, Glacier Hazard/Collecturds. Not that I would last more than 15 seconds there without help.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Dec 7, 2016 4:26:28 GMT
My least favorite map is the Trailer Park one, particularly when it rains  Stolen  |
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Post by Cirvante on Dec 7, 2016 4:38:12 GMT
Also, based on personal experience with Terminator Force , Glacier Hazard/Collecturds. Not that I would last more than 15 seconds there without help.
That's a gross exaggeration. I doubt you could break my record. |
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Post by Deerber on Dec 7, 2016 11:37:32 GMT
Also, based on personal experience with Terminator Force , Glacier Hazard/Collecturds. Not that I would last more than 15 seconds there without help.
That's a gross exaggeration. I doubt you could break my record. I've seen feneckus die before wave 1 even began on that  IT WAS BEAUTIFUL! |
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Post by Pounce de León on Dec 7, 2016 11:50:14 GMT
The pug quality doesn't matter - the map quality does: It Condor that is worst map because it bugged.
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Post by nucleartech76 on Dec 8, 2016 2:56:51 GMT
I really like goddess too. Idk it's not that bad to me. Mother fucking hydra too. Goddamn I dare you to say that map is easy on geth plat or if you get devices on about any fucking faction especiallu derperus or geth.
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Post by n7operative84 on Dec 8, 2016 23:23:29 GMT
In first place the Turian Moon map. In second place the Asari homeworld map.
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Post by capn233 on Dec 9, 2016 1:49:11 GMT
Giant, that is a laugh. In the olden days people would bitch about White or then Glacier due to farming.
What makes a pug map bad is the combination of likelihood teammates will be killed and shit objectives that will be hard to solo. Condor and Rio are probably ones I would nominate for this dubious honor.
edit: Hazard maps (except Giant and Reactor) may be the next tier. Dagger Hazard has potentially the shittiest objectives of those, although Ghost Hazard has "immortal" Cerberus turrets to go with rain escorts / devices.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 9, 2016 2:53:26 GMT
In first place the Turian Moon map. In second place the Asari homeworld map. Your top two least fave maps are my top two favourite maps. |
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 9, 2016 3:00:22 GMT
Giant, that is a laugh. In the olden days people would bitch about White or then Glacier due to farming. What makes a pug map bad is the combination of likelihood teammates will be killed and shit objectives that will be hard to solo. Condor and Rio are probably ones I would nominate for this dubious honor. edit: Hazard maps (except Giant and Reactor) may be the next tier. Dagger Hazard has potentially the shittiest objectives of those, although Ghost Hazard has "immortal" Cerberus turrets to go with rain escorts / devices. It always boggles my cybernetic neural net CPU that more challenging maps = bad map design. Meanwhile maps that can be trivialised more easy = fine or good maps. |
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Post by capn233 on Dec 9, 2016 3:13:28 GMT
Giant, that is a laugh. In the olden days people would bitch about White or then Glacier due to farming. What makes a pug map bad is the combination of likelihood teammates will be killed and shit objectives that will be hard to solo. Condor and Rio are probably ones I would nominate for this dubious honor. edit: Hazard maps (except Giant and Reactor) may be the next tier. Dagger Hazard has potentially the shittiest objectives of those, although Ghost Hazard has "immortal" Cerberus turrets to go with rain escorts / devices. It always boggles my cybernetic neural net CPU that more challenging maps = bad map design. Meanwhile maps that can be trivialised more easy = fine or good maps. Should boggle the mind since that equivalency actually hasn't been drawn, certainly not by me. Of course if a map's challenge derives solely from bad design and glitches, that is of course another matter. Doesn't really make sense to me to bag on Giant as a bad pug map even if whatever players these days are camping near the LZ. Camping can happen on any map, and the team camping doesn't preclude the player from going wherever he or she wants. |
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Post by burningblood on Dec 9, 2016 3:37:24 GMT
While Condor is bad for the many reasons already stated, my pick is Glacier (both hazard and normal). The spawns are so easy to control on that map if you have players who know what they're doing; but with clueless PUGs you always have a scion or ravager (or two) shooting you in the back no matter where you try to find cover. The map actually gets easier to play after the PUGs are down and you're clutching, for at least then you can corral the enemies where you want them.
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Post by Terminator Force on Dec 9, 2016 3:41:19 GMT
It always boggles my cybernetic neural net CPU that more challenging maps = bad map design. Meanwhile maps that can be trivialised more easy = fine or good maps. Should boggle the mind since that equivalency actually hasn't been drawn, certainly not by me. Of course if a map's challenge derives solely from bad design and glitches, that is of course another matter. Doesn't really make sense to me to bag on Giant as a bad pug map even if whatever players these days are camping near the LZ. Camping can happen on any map, and the team camping doesn't preclude the player from going wherever he or she wants. So Giant isn't the easiest map to camp with pugs? If yes, to me that is a design flaw. |
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Post by capn233 on Dec 9, 2016 3:50:02 GMT
Should boggle the mind since that equivalency actually hasn't been drawn, certainly not by me. Of course if a map's challenge derives solely from bad design and glitches, that is of course another matter. Doesn't really make sense to me to bag on Giant as a bad pug map even if whatever players these days are camping near the LZ. Camping can happen on any map, and the team camping doesn't preclude the player from going wherever he or she wants. So Giant isn't the easiest map to camp with pugs? If yes, to me that is a design flaw. You can camp every map. I don't know that Giant is necessarily easier to do this on than various other maps. Rio is arguably easier, for instance. Jade is simple to camp. I don't really see the point in complaining about random players camping though, unless they are doing it on objective waves and ignoring the objective. The camping of various others doesn't preclude you from going wherever you want on any map. |
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Post by TheWhiteWolf on Dec 9, 2016 7:26:37 GMT
Condor and Rio.
Jade can also go pear shaped with a bad bunch of pugs.
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Post by jmac1424 on Dec 9, 2016 23:11:15 GMT
I just don't care for Giant simply because I have played it so fuckin much. I don't necessarily camp it, and I don't care if Pugs camp it. I'm just tired of playing it. Hell, in the last week, I've gotten Condor so much, it's beginning to grow on me. Oni, Evn, and I had a relatively smooth Plat vs. cheating ass Cerberus on there today. And that was with a shitheel pug playing as a GE with our biotic boom squad, with a Reegar I with AR III amp.
TLDR; dislike Giant because I get to play it so much. Condor has become a map I don't dread so much.
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