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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 21:21:23 GMT
I would love this so much. Seeing her dad click strongly disapprove and Sid and Vetra teaming up to show him what's what. I for instance, would like Vetra's father to gradually grow fond of Scott, thanking him in the end that he was there for Vetra, when he himself should have been there for his daughters. I think they could pull this off in a storyline DLC, because her father would have 2 major reasons to join AI: - he messed with bad folks in the Milky Way, who might have wanted him dead - he wanted to re-unite with his daughters / be able to check up on them from the shadow. Oh, and yea, one additional reason we learn from Vetra: - he hated his wife (Vetra's and Sid's mother) ... Sid surely isn't a child born out of love... Bioware are you reading this? Love the idea man.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 21:27:14 GMT
I so hope Vetra's father made it into the AI in secret... I'm waiting for those awkward Scott x his "Turian Father-in-law" moments... this can either get really wierd... or surprisingly awesome later on. Also, I would expect Vetra to unleash a hell on her father for leaving her and her sister all of a sudden. I think that could be an interesting continuation of her story. Maybe he changed his name and got involved in the project somehow. It could be an good confrontation because she seemed to have genuinely respected her father and tells herself he would have come home if he could have. I would much rather it be her dad if they went with a story like that because she didn't seem to think much of her mother. I like her getting more drama in her storyline in future DLC and sequels, but it doesn't have to be related to her family or anything. Maybe something related the the Kadara plotline or one of her contacts elsewhere.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 21:36:21 GMT
I think that could be an interesting continuation of her story. Maybe he changed his name and got involved in the project somehow. It could be an good confrontation because she seemed to have genuinely respected her father and tells herself he would have come home if he could have. I would much rather it be her dad if they went with a story like that because she didn't seem to think much of her mother. I like her getting more drama in her storyline in future DLC and sequels, but it doesn't have to be related to her family or anything. Maybe something related the the Kadara plotline or one of her contacts elsewhere. Anything related to Vetra in future DLCs is nicely welcome. Like I said before, Vetra is among the characters, who had the best reception, so Biower should take a damn hint and expand her story.
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Post by Karvarn on Apr 12, 2017 21:36:59 GMT
And the answer for Scott "You keep up and i promise i won't tell if you don't" For me it is something teasing and I like that but I see your point and understand it also For the spoiler no idea I know unfortunately only Scott's variante for Sara I only found 1 Video on youtube but it was answered with logic and not with emotional But it is also not important she loves both equal Scott or Sara makes no difference I have a lot of the romance recorded (playstation is easy that way) If I decide to edit and post it I will let you know. But I think you're right. They probably have the same feel considering most of the dialogue is the same. It is only peoples perception on Scott and Sara that change it. Thank you that would be nice so I can see the option from Sara´s perspective Everyone has a different opinion which is good but Vetra loves both the same. Sheryl Chee is a good writer for f/f and straight content I'm happy with Vetra as a straight guy but Vetra needs more romance content and less Ftb let's hope that she get content in DLC's
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Post by Psychedelic on Apr 12, 2017 21:51:31 GMT
I can see why you want more Vetra content, but it wouldn't surprise me if Bioware has plans for her sister, in a DLC or a new game. She already has a background story, thanks to Vetra, her job gives her access to information that isn't necessarily available to the average person and she seems to like to meddle in things. She isn't exactly Andromeda's shadow broker, but give her some time and she might become more important in future conflicts, in an official role or less so.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 21:55:36 GMT
I can see why you want more Vetra content, but it wouldn't surprise me if Bioware has plans for her sister, in a DLC or a new game. She already has a background story, thanks to Vetra, her job gives her access to information that isn't necessarily available to the average person and she seems to like to meddle in things. She isn't exactly Andromeda's shadow broker, but give her some time and she might become more important in future conflicts, in an official role or less so. Her sister Sid is okay, but I would prefer Vetra herself get more content rather than her getting sidelined for the sake of featuring her little sister more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 22:22:02 GMT
I can see why you want more Vetra content, but it wouldn't surprise me if Bioware has plans for her sister, in a DLC or a new game. She already has a background story, thanks to Vetra, her job gives her access to information that isn't necessarily available to the average person and she seems to like to meddle in things. She isn't exactly Andromeda's shadow broker, but give her some time and she might become more important in future conflicts, in an official role or less so. I welcome idea of Sid having her own story also developed further. Vetra finally realises in ME:A, she isn't a small kid anymore and is quite cunning herself (takes after her sister? hehe) So why not both? Best idea is to increase the personal story for both Nyx sisters in DLCs and have them play major roles in the sequel.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 22:57:43 GMT
Great ideas everyone. I just want more relationship building between Vetra and Ryder. Whatever else happens is extra.
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Post by km on Apr 13, 2017 1:21:14 GMT
I will take anything that gives us more Vetra, but I really do hope, like Shadow said, that it is something that builds the relationship between Ryder and Vetra, that would be a first for me in a Bioware game. In ME1 it was Ashley, then ME2 it was Miranda because Ashley wasn't really a part of it, then in ME3 Ashley still wasn't really a part of it and Miranda wasn't either, so having a relationship to build through multiple games/DLC would be great!
Also, something just occurred to me. In every Bioware game I have played, I have romanced a human female, DA:I it was Cassandra, but with ME:A I went straight for Vetra, didn't even "no strings" with PeeBee, that is why it felt different from the other games. Hmmm...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 1:23:18 GMT
I will take anything that gives us more Vetra, but I really do hope, like Shadow said, that it is something that builds the relationship between Ryder and Vetra, that would be a first for me in a Bioware game. In ME1 it was Ashley, then ME2 it was Miranda because Ashley wasn't really a part of it, then in ME3 Ashley still wasn't really a part of it and Miranda wasn't either, so having a relationship to build through multiple games/DLC would be great! Also, something just occurred to me. In every Bioware game I have played, I have romanced a human female, DA:I it was Cassandra, but with ME:A I went straight for Vetra, didn't even "no strings" with PeeBee, that is why it felt different from the other games. Hmmm... I like Cassandra in DA:I but totally would have gone after a non human if I could have. I never romanced a human in ME, it was Liara in OT and Vetra here.
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Post by km on Apr 13, 2017 1:27:47 GMT
I like Cassandra in DA:I but totally would have gone after a non human if I could have. I never romanced a human in ME, it was Liara in OT and Vetra here. Yeah, unlike ME 1, 2, and 3, I was happy with my choice to romance Cassandra, a very different character once you get to know her. In ME, I wish I romanced Tali or Liara, but I really like that in ME3 she gets together with Garrus, he was my best bud, and seeing that made me happy.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 13, 2017 2:52:32 GMT
I will take anything that gives us more Vetra, but I really do hope, like Shadow said, that it is something that builds the relationship between Ryder and Vetra, that would be a first for me in a Bioware game. In ME1 it was Ashley, then ME2 it was Miranda because Ashley wasn't really a part of it, then in ME3 Ashley still wasn't really a part of it and Miranda wasn't either, so having a relationship to build through multiple games/DLC would be great! Also, something just occurred to me. In every Bioware game I have played, I have romanced a human female, DA:I it was Cassandra, but with ME:A I went straight for Vetra, didn't even "no strings" with PeeBee, that is why it felt different from the other games. Hmmm... Embrace your xenophiliac self. No, but I too usually get really into the human female companions/squadmates. More of a personality thing than anything else though. The only alien squadmate in ME trilogy that I was really attracted to was Samara. Occasionally Liara and Morinth a little.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 3:00:11 GMT
I will take anything that gives us more Vetra, but I really do hope, like Shadow said, that it is something that builds the relationship between Ryder and Vetra, that would be a first for me in a Bioware game. In ME1 it was Ashley, then ME2 it was Miranda because Ashley wasn't really a part of it, then in ME3 Ashley still wasn't really a part of it and Miranda wasn't either, so having a relationship to build through multiple games/DLC would be great! Also, something just occurred to me. In every Bioware game I have played, I have romanced a human female, DA:I it was Cassandra, but with ME:A I went straight for Vetra, didn't even "no strings" with PeeBee, that is why it felt different from the other games. Hmmm... Embrace your xenophiliac self. No, but I too usually get really into the human female companions/squadmates. More of a personality thing than anything else though. The only alien squadmate in ME trilogy that I was really attracted to was Samara. Occasionally Liara and Morinth a little. It's more of a when in Rome kinda thing with me, why get with humans if you have aliens! But I guess that isn't for everyone haha.
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Post by davkar on Apr 13, 2017 5:13:50 GMT
Guys, she moved on. Why do you want to open old wounds? No, let's move forward! Ryder-Nyx home with a grill in the backyard. And a tree with a swing in case one of the many, many, many ftbs finally end with the defeat of nature. Because it would be new Vetra content and expand her backstory. Where is the downside? I don't know. I loved that they've kept the daddy issues to the minimum. He was there, he loved them, she loved him, one day he didn't come home. Wouldn't or couldn't, she prefers the latter. A surprise "look who else we found in the fridge!" plotline would feel cheap (and *cough* a bit overdone winkwink). Sure those few interactions could be gold but are they there to serve a purpose or just for a few fanservice laughs? I'd rather see some more Verta-Ryder shenanigans, picture an extended loyalty mission but with less stakes and more fun. More Sid, more Ryder sibling involvement.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 5:28:55 GMT
Because it would be new Vetra content and expand her backstory. Where is the downside? I don't know. I loved that they've kept the daddy issues to the minimum. He was there, he loved them, she loved him, one day he didn't come home. Wouldn't or couldn't, she prefers the latter. A surprise "look who else we found in the fridge!" plotline would feel cheap (and *cough* a bit overdone winkwink). Sure those few interactions could be gold but are they there to serve a purpose or just for a few fanservice laughs? I'd rather see some more Verta-Ryder shenanigans, picture an extended loyalty mission but with less stakes and more fun. More Sid, more Ryder sibling involvement. I'm going forward not expecting much and hoping to be pleasantly surprised. I'll be happy with crumbs at this point.
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Post by davkar on Apr 13, 2017 5:34:41 GMT
That moment when you realize you've replayed this scene so many times... Seriously the "I won't"+ the reaction is one of the highlights of her romance. Stuff like this makes up for the ftb treatment.
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Post by MisterMr. on Apr 13, 2017 5:41:36 GMT
Vetra is the only reason I'm still even playing this game. It's better than Inquisition but not by much.
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Post by Crim on Apr 13, 2017 12:04:37 GMT
I will take anything that gives us more Vetra, but I really do hope, like Shadow said, that it is something that builds the relationship between Ryder and Vetra, that would be a first for me in a Bioware game. In ME1 it was Ashley, then ME2 it was Miranda because Ashley wasn't really a part of it, then in ME3 Ashley still wasn't really a part of it and Miranda wasn't either, so having a relationship to build through multiple games/DLC would be great! Also, something just occurred to me. In every Bioware game I have played, I have romanced a human female, DA:I it was Cassandra, but with ME:A I went straight for Vetra, didn't even "no strings" with PeeBee, that is why it felt different from the other games. Hmmm... Embrace your xenophiliac self. No, but I too usually get really into the human female companions/squadmates. More of a personality thing than anything else though. The only alien squadmate in ME trilogy that I was really attracted to was Samara. Occasionally Liara and Morinth a little. Asari trash over here, if romanceable I will try it. Vetra is the only exception to this rule. She's new ground for me.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 12:13:46 GMT
That moment when you realize you've replayed this scene so many times... Seriously the "I won't"+ the reaction is one of the highlights of her romance. Stuff like this makes up for the ftb treatment. I think I was a little disappointed because the relationship starts really great (I think Vetra has some of the best subtle/natural relationship building and flirting in start) but then she got a little neglected in the end. After watching all the romances, she had some of the best scenes even with the FTB but... She doesn't comment on your death even though if you bring her on the mission she is obviously distraught by it.
I don't like the scene with her once you complete the final story mission compared to the others. Peebee's kiss, Jaals twirl etc.
Also Peebee gets the nice option of having flirts constantly and a short romance repeatable dialogue once you start the relationship. At the same time Vetra gets a lot of nice romance related talks planet side and the relationship is reflected really well in the actual story. And yea her physical responses to the flirts are the cutest.
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Post by davkar on Apr 13, 2017 15:19:32 GMT
That moment when you realize you've replayed this scene so many times... Seriously the "I won't"+ the reaction is one of the highlights of her romance. Stuff like this makes up for the ftb treatment. I think I was a little disappointed because the relationship starts really great (I think Vetra has some of the best subtle/natural relationship building and flirting in start) but then she got a little neglected in the end. After watching all the romances, she had some of the best scenes even with the FTB but... She doesn't comment on your death even though if you bring her on the mission she is obviously distraught by it.
I don't like the scene with her once you complete the final story mission compared to the others. Peebee's kiss, Jaals twirl etc.
Also Peebee gets the nice option of having flirts constantly and a short romance repeatable dialogue once you start the relationship. At the same time Vetra gets a lot of nice romance related talks planet side and the relationship is reflected really well in the actual story. And yea her physical responses to the flirts are the cutest. I think hers is the(?) best paced romance. Little but meaningful flirts every now and then, lock after HfA* and from there on you're all set. I agree though that once locked her dialogues should reflect that but she just keeps repeating her basic friendly lines. Which is fine, her "hey, babe" greeting would knock me out every time. * This is why she doesn't respond to the 'death', technically the romance is not yet started.
I didn't like PB's constant flirt line. That "I like it when you flirt" doesn't fit tonally compared to the rest of her conversations. The later ones are better.
After checking the Vetra all options videos I realized that there's a trick to it. In the bridge you need to pick the casual option, in the epilogue the heart. In both cases Ryder will reply with "you read my mind" which is quite fitting to their romance dynamic. Let's make it the official motto!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 15:41:14 GMT
I think I was a little disappointed because the relationship starts really great (I think Vetra has some of the best subtle/natural relationship building and flirting in start) but then she got a little neglected in the end. After watching all the romances, she had some of the best scenes even with the FTB but... She doesn't comment on your death even though if you bring her on the mission she is obviously distraught by it.
I don't like the scene with her once you complete the final story mission compared to the others. Peebee's kiss, Jaals twirl etc.
Also Peebee gets the nice option of having flirts constantly and a short romance repeatable dialogue once you start the relationship. At the same time Vetra gets a lot of nice romance related talks planet side and the relationship is reflected really well in the actual story. And yea her physical responses to the flirts are the cutest. I think hers is the(?) best paced romance. Little but meaningful flirts every now and then, lock after HfA* and from there on you're all set. I agree though that once locked her dialogues should reflect that but she just keeps repeating her basic friendly lines. Which is fine, her "hey, babe" greeting would knock me out every time. * This is why she doesn't respond to the 'death', technically the romance is not yet started.
I didn't like PB's constant flirt line. That "I like it when you flirt" doesn't fit tonally compared to the rest of her conversations. The later ones are better.
After checking the all options videos I realized that there's a trick to it. In the bridge you need to pick the casual option, in the epilogue the heart options. In both cases Ryder will reply with "you read my mind" which is quite fitting to their romance. I think that is what I really wanted. New dialogue to open up after the romance started. It just doesn't make sense to have those scenes in DA:I but not in ME:A. I mean it is obvious that you can continue to play on to do side quests in the game and that any future DLC could take place post story. So seems odd to get the same dialogue that isn't romance related forever and ever. I'm not a good judge because I didn't care for the pacing of the overall game and so I didn't really like the pacing of the romance story arcs. Or in place of that it would have been nice to have scenes where you could invite LI to you room on the tempest to watch a movie or chat or maybe a spot on the fully terraformed planets that open up a repeatable date scene. Picnic on Kadara, stargazing on Harvaal etc and they could be unique to the LI. (something like Josie's little dates would be nice) Maybe that is asking to much but I just liked that aspect of the DA:I romances a lot and even origins had repeating romance scenes. Just Vetra saying "Hey lets go find some place private... :dirty: " That would have been enough for me and been more like the standard I am use to. That's basically what Peebee gets after ZG. Makes the romance seem less like a fling and more like a relationship. I'd love to see the variations of that. Hopefully someone will put up videos of the variety of dialogue options. Those are always interesting to watch.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2017 15:50:07 GMT
I guess we have yet an another Drell Assassin on the loose people... and this one made it to Andromeda. Watch out
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