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Post by Shinobu on Dec 3, 2016 15:39:52 GMT
You're right, fraternal twins are no more alike than any other pair of siblings (except for usually having the same birthday). Now that I think about it, Vetra may be taller than Drack. In the image in the OP, their heads are at the same level and Vetra is clearly leaning on the railing. Normally. Me and my twin fraternal brother have the same height, hair colour and type, eyes colour and are quite similar from each other (at least for fraternal twins). But yeah, fraternal twins can be very different. Sara and Scott are certainly fraternal twins. You're right, non-identical twin siblings can be quite similar. My kids are 4 years apart but they look enough alike that I get their toddler pictures confused all the time. My coworker called them "Cut" (pointing to the bigger one) and "Paste" (pointing to the smaller one).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 15:41:25 GMT
Yea, seems at first. From the short glance at her in the trailer we can think she has "basketball player" height. But I think this is caused by femRyder being rather small and walking/standing right next to Vetra. The odd thing is that I expected Krogan to be even bigger this time, yet Drack seems to be shorter than Vetra which does look confusing. Maybe he's also leaning on the railing? Just checked. Doesn't seem like he's leaning. He's standing upright next to Vetra, so he is at best of the same height as she...
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 3, 2016 15:45:59 GMT
Maybe he's also leaning on the railing? Just checked. Doesn't seem like he's leaning. He's standing upright next to Vetra, so he is at best of the same height as she... Interesting. He's also not that tall compared to Ryder in that picture, so maybe the two of them are smaller than the ME2 models for their species? Or maybe Vetra is Qunari height? Or maybe they're exactly the same as in ME3 and I'm getting carried away?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 3, 2016 15:47:21 GMT
I think they might've gone to the route of making particular characters having unique height and/or body type. After all, I don't think it was stated outright that other species don't have differences in terms of height and physique between them. While they obviously won't make differences for every character (as they're not doing it with humans), they might do that for important npcs and squadmates.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 3, 2016 15:51:15 GMT
I think they might've gone to the route of making particular characters having a unique height and/or body type. After all, I don't think it was stated outright the other species don't have differences in terms of height and physique between them. While they'll obviously won't make differences for every character (as they're not doing it with humans), they might do that for important npcs and squadmates. Hm, good point.
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Post by Milady on Dec 3, 2016 16:06:14 GMT
Kinda like it, refreshing.. But still need my male turian romance
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 3, 2016 16:41:34 GMT
In this part Scott is charging a female (I think) Turian. She also seems quite tall.
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Post by bloodmagereaver on Dec 3, 2016 16:51:57 GMT
Well...
Vetra: -He had reach, I had flexibility.
Bro!Ryder: -Wanna test my reach?
I demand we have this dialogue in game!
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Dec 3, 2016 17:00:17 GMT
Kinda like it, refreshing.. They made them even more alien by making them taller, I love it! I'm noticing other slight design tweaks as well, their feet are different too !
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Post by Draining Dragon on Dec 3, 2016 18:00:00 GMT
Here's hoping she's a romance option.
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Post by TheChosenOne on Dec 3, 2016 18:19:52 GMT
A female Turian!!!! It's done. It's official. My Bro!ryder is romancing her. Time to use the best pick-ups lines in the whole galaxy
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Post by MrR40 on Dec 3, 2016 18:33:42 GMT
Vetra and Drack as squadmates, no contest. She will be my first target for romance as well.
Interesting backstory aside, I also look forward to her banter and such.
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Post by TheChosenOne on Dec 3, 2016 18:55:34 GMT
Vetra and Drack as squadmates, no contest. She will be my first target for romance as well. Interesting backstory aside, I also look forward to her banter and such. Garrus and Wrex were my favorite squaddies to take. Hoping the same for Vetra and Drack
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 3, 2016 18:56:52 GMT
Vetra and Drack as squadmates, no contest. She will be my first target for romance as well. Interesting backstory aside, I also look forward to her banter and such. Garrus and Wrex were my favorite squaddies to take. Hoping the same for Vetra and Drack That was my favorite squad setup as well.
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Post by KirkyX on Dec 3, 2016 19:35:25 GMT
In this part Scott is charging a female (I think) Turian. She also seems quite tall. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's Sara doing the !!charging!!
To make up for that nitpick, and actually contribute to the discussion, here's a screenshot of the Turian in question, too: It's hard to be completely sure, but I think I see a head-crest thingy, so it's probably a he. So, since we still have a sampling of precisely three female Turians - two of whom used exactly the same model - it's hard to say whether Vetra's height is atypical. (Either way, )
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Post by Sifr on Dec 3, 2016 20:00:33 GMT
Well... Vetra: -He had reach, I had flexibility.Bro!Ryder: -Wanna test my reach?I demand we have this dialogue in game! Now I sorta want Vetra to be the female Turian that Garrus "sparred" with when he was in the military... Would be even better if we ended up hearing the other side of that story, where Garrus isn't as much of a player as he thought. In reality, she only hooked up with Garrus because he was too uptight and everyone in the squad agreed he desperately needed to get laid. The squad also got tired of him constantly hogging the bathroom while "calibrating his weapon"...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 21:51:44 GMT
It's hard to be completely sure, but I think I see a head-crest thingy, so it's probably a he. So, since we still have a sampling of precisely three female Turians - two of whom used exactly the same model - it's hard to say whether Vetra's height is atypical. (Either way, ) That is a male Turian in that picture 100% certain.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 21:57:53 GMT
In this part Scott is charging a female (I think) Turian. She also seems quite tall. About the female Turian vs male Human height comparison. I've noticed at the 1:17 - 1:19 portion of the gameplay video, that there are female Turian and human Male standing to each other/human is speaking to the turian lady and she is listerning. Their height is evidently very much alike, the human at first seems to be a bit smaller, but his head is slightly tilted making him only appear like that. This can indicate, that: - male Ryder by default will be taller than his sister (as we clearly see in gameplay trailer, that femRyder is way smaller, than Vetra). or - as mentioned in above posts, the unique members of given spieces can have custom height (like Vetra for instance). or - almost every character can have random height applied from the outset applicable height gap (from - to) - this would be the best option. or - (I wish this will be implemented), we can also determine the height of the Ryder we pick, when we start the game - This would be just GREAT. Wanna romance Vetra as manRyder? Then make him very tall and height issues disappear (should anyone find such disproportion unacceptable in the first place).
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Post by dalinne on Dec 3, 2016 22:20:12 GMT
I MUST. RESIST. THE TEMPTATION. TO ROMANCE. A TURIAN. AGAIN.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 22:23:15 GMT
I MUST. RESIST. THE TEMPTATION. TO ROMANCE. A TURIAN. AGAIN.YOU CANNOT WIN. YOU MUST GIVE IN.
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 3, 2016 22:34:35 GMT
I MUST. RESIST. THE TEMPTATION. TO ROMANCE. A TURIAN. AGAIN.Whyever would you do that?
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Post by Shinobu on Dec 4, 2016 0:24:54 GMT
In this part Scott is charging a female (I think) Turian. She also seems quite tall. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's Sara doing the !!charging!!
To make up for that nitpick, and actually contribute to the discussion, here's a screenshot of the Turian in question, too: It's hard to be completely sure, but I think I see a head-crest thingy, so it's probably a he. So, since we still have a sampling of precisely three female Turians - two of whom used exactly the same model - it's hard to say whether Vetra's height is atypical. (Either way, ) Oo, thanks for breaking it down. Well, if it's Sara vs. male Turian that could account for the height difference. Looking at the clip in the second post, it comes right after we see the three of them descending a ramp, so it's possible the perceived height difference there is due to Ryder being further away and at the bottom of the ramp while Vetra is closer and higher. It seems most likely that Vetra and Drack (at least) are the default ME3 size while Sara is (maybe) shorter than Shepard, because it would take fewer resources than making custom rigs for all the companions and then having to figure out what to do with them during cutscenes (esp. romance cutscenes).
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Post by RageUnderFire on Dec 4, 2016 4:18:14 GMT
I MUST. RESIST. THE TEMPTATION. TO ROMANCE. A TURIAN. AGAIN.Let hope she's pure hetero so dalinne will be forced to play as a man in order to romance a Turian this time.
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Post by Sifr on Dec 4, 2016 6:16:00 GMT
Wonder if Ryder will be able to have tech armour on their arms and legs, or it's only unique to these type of enemies? I'd rather like to see Sentinels able to customise and upgrade their tech armour. Perhaps extend it to cover our arms, legs and torso, so we have a higher armour rating, but weaker shield strength... or instead have it only covering the torso, so we have less armour, but higher shield strength.
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Post by dalinne on Dec 4, 2016 9:25:26 GMT
I MUST. RESIST. THE TEMPTATION. TO ROMANCE. A TURIAN. AGAIN.Let hope she's pure hetero so dalinne will be forced to play as a man in order to romance a Turian this time. Let's hope she is romanceable. I also want don't mind to play as hot broRyder.
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