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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 8:02:34 GMT
I was fine with how the newer films treated Han. To me it is completely realistic and likely that Han and Leia break down as a couple, it was a dodgy relationship to start with (I can see a 'low-life smuggler' having a hard time feeling like part of Leia's world and having ant pants for adventure, I've felt that since RotJ). Add in the death/loss of a child (marriage break down is a very real side effect of that kind of loss) its no wonder Han went back to what he knows best. It's not like the regressed 100% to pre-New Hope selfish arse, he agreed to help get BB-8 back home and then to help with the attack on Starkiller. As for his death, it wasn't pointless or disrespectful, he tried his hardest to bring his son home and given how affected Ren is in TLJ by Hans death and Snoke's reaction to that grief, then Hans sacrifice looks to be the catalyst for change/redemption in his son, making his death anything but wasteful. Sö that nice goöd happy feeling yöu have when yöu watch this nöw isn’t ruined för yöu?
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Post by Nayawk on May 8, 2018 8:57:03 GMT
I was fine with how the newer films treated Han. To me it is completely realistic and likely that Han and Leia break down as a couple, it was a dodgy relationship to start with (I can see a 'low-life smuggler' having a hard time feeling like part of Leia's world and having ant pants for adventure, I've felt that since RotJ). Add in the death/loss of a child (marriage break down is a very real side effect of that kind of loss) its no wonder Han went back to what he knows best. It's not like the regressed 100% to pre-New Hope selfish arse, he agreed to help get BB-8 back home and then to help with the attack on Starkiller. As for his death, it wasn't pointless or disrespectful, he tried his hardest to bring his son home and given how affected Ren is in TLJ by Hans death and Snoke's reaction to that grief, then Hans sacrifice looks to be the catalyst for change/redemption in his son, making his death anything but wasteful. Sö that nice goöd happy feeling yöu have when yöu watch this nöw isn’t ruined för yöu? Not at all. Re-watching theses as an adult if anything that ending was always the a weak point for RotJ (a movie with a few to pick from). I found it unbelievable and not very satisfying. Well done, you killed an emperor and this massive galaxy spanning empire just goes away *poof*. It just always felt too neat and tidy and massively cheesy. Never trust a happy ending.
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Post by Iakus on May 8, 2018 15:08:59 GMT
Sö that nice goöd happy feeling yöu have when yöu watch this nöw isn’t ruined för yöu? Not at all. Re-watching theses as an adult if anything that ending was always the a weak point for RotJ (a movie with a few to pick from). I found it unbelievable and not very satisfying. Well done, you killed an emperor and this massive galaxy spanning empire just goes away *poof*. It just always felt too neat and tidy and massively cheesy. Never trust a happy ending. It's not supposed to be realistic. Star Wars was basically a modern fairy tale. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" is essentially saying "One upon a time in a faraway land..."
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Post by Nayawk on May 8, 2018 21:53:38 GMT
Not at all. Re-watching theses as an adult if anything that ending was always the a weak point for RotJ (a movie with a few to pick from). I found it unbelievable and not very satisfying. Well done, you killed an emperor and this massive galaxy spanning empire just goes away *poof*. It just always felt too neat and tidy and massively cheesy. Never trust a happy ending. It's not supposed to be realistic. Star Wars was basically a modern fairy tale. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" is essentially saying "One upon a time in a faraway land..." If we really are just suppose to look at the SW movies as only a fairytale that don't concern themselves with reality, then why are we getting the 'bombs can't fall in space..etc' complaints? Either all these movies open to adult analysis or they are all movies we are just suppose to enjoy with wide eyed child-like wonder. It is silly to have one set of rules for the OT and another for everything else.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 8, 2018 21:57:03 GMT
But when you realize both are Disney
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 8, 2018 22:17:06 GMT
I've never seen Caravan of Courage though. Nothing else can be this bad (with the possible exception of its own sequel and the Holiday Special). I had both Caravan of Courage and its sequel on DVD. I watched them as a kid, so I didn't find that much horrible. Of course, nowadays, I avoid watching it to ruin my "good" childhood experience. And about the Holiday Special I watched 10min of it. It's not as bad as people say on the internet.
It's actually worse.
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 8, 2018 22:21:17 GMT
^ Everyone looks younger accept for Chewy lets fix that a little ( it's to bad that i cannot change the background though ). You can hardly notice it due to my great Photoshop skillz
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Post by Iakus on May 8, 2018 22:41:12 GMT
It's not supposed to be realistic. Star Wars was basically a modern fairy tale. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" is essentially saying "One upon a time in a faraway land..." If we really are just suppose to look at the SW movies as only a fairytale that don't concern themselves with reality, then why are we getting the 'bombs can't fall in space..etc' complaints? Either all these movies open to adult analysis or they are all movies we are just suppose to enjoy with wide eyed child-like wonder. It is silly to have one set of rules for the OT and another for everything else. I've never complained abut bombs falling in space. As far as problems TLJ had, that was darn near the bottom.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2018 22:49:19 GMT
It's not supposed to be realistic. Star Wars was basically a modern fairy tale. "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away" is essentially saying "One upon a time in a faraway land..." If we really are just suppose to look at the SW movies as only a fairytale that don't concern themselves with reality, then why are we getting the 'bombs can't fall in space..etc' complaints? Either all these movies open to adult analysis or they are all movies we are just suppose to enjoy with wide eyed child-like wonder. It is silly to have one set of rules for the OT and another for everything else. If yöu want to bring up sömething ÖT fans like me dönt have an explanatiön that I never see peöple bring up is in Empire, Han Leia and Chewie walk aröund in the vacuum öf space in a belly öf that giant wörm in the asteröid when they shoöt öff the mynöcks. What I believe Iakus was saying is the ending tö Jedi is a ending tö a fairytale. They stöp the evil Emperör. They saved the galaxy and they went ön tö live happily ever after. The End.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 8, 2018 22:53:20 GMT
If we really are just suppose to look at the SW movies as only a fairytale that don't concern themselves with reality, then why are we getting the 'bombs can't fall in space..etc' complaints? Either all these movies open to adult analysis or they are all movies we are just suppose to enjoy with wide eyed child-like wonder. It is silly to have one set of rules for the OT and another for everything else. If yöu want to bring up sömething ÖT fans like me dönt have an explanatiön that I never see peöple bring up is in Empire, Han Leia and Chewie walk aröund in the vacuum öf space in a belly öf that giant wörm in the asteröid when they shoöt öff the mynöcks. What I believe Iakus was saying is the ending tö Jedi is a ending tö a fairytale. They stöp the evil Emperör. They saved the galaxy and they went ön tö live happily ever after. The End. They have those masks that allow Han, Leia and Chewie to breathe.
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Post by Nayawk on May 8, 2018 23:01:36 GMT
If we really are just suppose to look at the SW movies as only a fairytale that don't concern themselves with reality, then why are we getting the 'bombs can't fall in space..etc' complaints? Either all these movies open to adult analysis or they are all movies we are just suppose to enjoy with wide eyed child-like wonder. It is silly to have one set of rules for the OT and another for everything else. I've never complained abut bombs falling in space. As fr as problems TLJ had, that was darn near the bottom. Fair enough, though it is a complaint that has made an appearance on these boards and elsewhere a lot. Even if we only take issue with the story structure elements, why does the OT get a 'it's a fairytale' pass and the sequels not? Don't get me wrong.. I love the OT, I watched them in the cinema as a child as they came out and they have been a very regular occurrence over the last 40 odd years, but they have flaws. If we hand wave those flaws away because 'fairytale' then we need to give the new movies the same courtesy.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 7:30:04 GMT
^ Everyone looks younger accept for Chewy lets fix that a little ( it's to bad that i cannot change the background though ). You can hardly notice it due to my great Photoshop skillz It's really perfect i see a career opportunity here now the billboard looks really finished thank you.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on May 9, 2018 7:44:07 GMT
And about the Holiday Special I watched 10min of it. It's not as bad as people say on the internet.
It's actually worse.
Three wookies roaring at the same time for an hour :yara: This makes it slightly better
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 16:22:42 GMT
Twö amazing videös.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 9, 2018 17:12:55 GMT
Let people do what they want when it comes to THEIR entertainment.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 17:50:42 GMT
Let people do what they want when it comes to THEIR entertainment. Did yöu actually watch the videös ör did yöu just read the titles and cömment? In the first videö he lays öut why yöu shöuldnt see it but he döes say if yöu still want tö see it after everything then it is yöur chöice. Hes nöt demanding anyöne tö boycött it. The secönd videö he explains that he döesn't care if anyöne göes sees it. He explains why he is boycötting it. He even says hes nöt calling för boycött. That's why I felt the secönd videö was necessary. Maybe watch next time Andy beföre yöu cömment.
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Post by Andrew Waples on May 9, 2018 18:11:48 GMT
Let people do what they want when it comes to THEIR entertainment. Did yöu actually watch the videös ör did yöu just read the titles and cömment? In the first videö he lays öut why yöu shöuldnt see it but he döes say if yöu still want tö see it after everything then it is yöur chöice. Hes nöt demanding anyöne tö boycött it. The secönd videö he explains that he döesn't care if anyöne göes sees it. He explains why he is boycötting it. He even says hes nöt calling för boycött. That's why I felt the secönd videö was necessary. Maybe watch next time Andy beföre yöu cömment. If he wants fans to boycott, but doesn't care if you actually do it then the whole video is pointless and he just did for clickbait purposes. I tried watching the first (stopped watching at 13 minutes), but lost interest when he called KK a terrible person as if he knows her in real life. Yes, the mismanagement is bad, but the whole notion they don't care about fans is crap. Also, JJ and Rian are Star Wars fans. "Keep politics out of Star Wars." Does he not realize the whole OT was based on politics? The prequels for that matter? What's ironic is that Solo was a George Lucas' idea and he was on set for Solo. www.digitalspy.com/movies/news/a849876/george-lucas-solo-a-star-wars-story-han-solo-movie-disney-lucasfilm/
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on May 9, 2018 18:18:55 GMT
And about the Holiday Special I watched 10min of it. It's not as bad as people say on the internet.
It's actually worse.
Three wookies roaring at the same time for an hour This makes it slightly better Can't wait to see the whole thing!
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Post by SofaJockey on May 9, 2018 19:09:47 GMT
^ Everyone looks younger accept for Chewy lets fix that a little ( it's to bad that i cannot change the background though ). You can hardly notice it due to my great Photoshop skillz You could do the posters for them professionally. You're clearly qualified...
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2018 19:25:45 GMT
Unlike the movies, the rebel scum will ultimately lose.
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Post by masterwarderz on May 9, 2018 19:34:05 GMT
Did yöu actually watch the videös ör did yöu just read the titles and cömment? In the first videö he lays öut why yöu shöuldnt see it but he döes say if yöu still want tö see it after everything then it is yöur chöice. Hes nöt demanding anyöne tö boycött it. The secönd videö he explains that he döesn't care if anyöne göes sees it. He explains why he is boycötting it. He even says hes nöt calling för boycött. That's why I felt the secönd videö was necessary. Maybe watch next time Andy beföre yöu cömment. but lost interest when he called KK a terrible person Of course you did. She's a horrible person whom since she began running the show ruined a beloved franchise for erm...hold let me look. Right. Let's round up and call it a hundred and five thousand people...at the very least. ._. I am sure if I looked harder, I could find more folks whom are displeased with her work, politics, and messages.
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Post by masterwarderz on May 9, 2018 19:35:26 GMT
Unlike the movies, the rebel scum will ultimately lose. I do hope so...those SJWs definitively need defeating this arena, as they do in all of them.
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