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Post by Hier0phant on Oct 14, 2018 17:55:56 GMT
They don’t have permission to use the content yet still did so yes thieves. The fact they give it for free is irrelevant if they don’t have permission. What term would you use? Not theft.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 14, 2018 17:57:21 GMT
Really? There are bigger problems in the world then a fucking video game publisher. Also, a bit ironic to. Given your on a forum in which the developer is being published by them.🙄 Wait, do you guys actually think Biower pays for or supports these boards? LoL No... that's not what I meant. You're on a forum in which your supposed to be a fan of, right? Cause, if not then why are you here. In which by extension, you are supporting EA when you buy their games.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 14, 2018 17:59:47 GMT
Wait, do you guys actually think Biower pays for or supports these boards? LoL No... that's not what I meant. You're on a forum in which your supposed to be a fan of, right? Cause, if not then why are you here. In which by extension, you are supporting EA when you buy their games. Because you liked their old shit? That's why I'm here, last game I bought was DAI and that was the first Bioware game I ever returned. ._. I'm not supporting modern IPs and the company itself means nothing to me anymore.
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Post by aglomeracja on Oct 14, 2018 18:04:21 GMT
Characters, planets, gameplay, etc. They did not have permission to use any of that and yet they did. It’s taking something from them if you don’t have permission. It's a mod. You have to buy the original game to use it and they (the mod creators) don't make any profit from that. Are game mods thievery in general? How about fan-fiction? Or all those fan made movies on youtube in SW universe?
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 14, 2018 18:06:51 GMT
Heh oh aren't you special you like the unpopular games. Also why jump in if you can't be bothered to even glance at what prompted me to insert myself? I was just passing. ME3 was awesome with a problematic ending and an outstanding multiplayer. DA2 had a wonderful story that has recovered the reputation it got from its painfully reused assets. Inquisition: GOTY Andromeda: Kind of average, but not a bad game. I don't think those are 'special' opinions. I don't think BioWare has made a bad game, though some are better than others. Star Wars on the other hand, well actually it's the same. They've had from outstanding to average entries, I'd struggle to label any serious entry as bad... all have been entertaining at least.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 14, 2018 18:08:16 GMT
No... that's not what I meant. You're on a forum in which your supposed to be a fan of, right? Cause, if not then why are you here. In which by extension, you are supporting EA when you buy their games. Because you liked their old shit? That's why I'm here, last game I bought was DAI and that was the first Bioware game I ever returned. ._. I'm not supporting modern IPs and the company itself means nothing to me anymore. I'm not saying you have to like EA, just know that any BioWare purchase you make moving forward you are also supporting EA. Whether you like it or not.
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Post by Serza on Oct 14, 2018 18:09:53 GMT
You appear to be implying that this harms Disney in some way, while the opposite is true.
The only way to harm them is if KOTOR sales (the title has been confirmed as requiring the old KOTOR exe to run) do not go to them, in which case this is just beyond stupid. Otherwise, this may very well have been a reason for KOTOR sales to spike again. Forget Fair Use, it protects the assholes here.
Implying that they are thieves is beyond dishonorable, and I will not even go into that.
I also find it ironic that this precise laughing in people's faces was something that bothered you a year ago, hence this whole "Get Ready..." PM chain. Suddenly it's fine? How is it not hypocritical?
Whoa. Look at me go. Thank you.
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Post by masterwarderz on Oct 14, 2018 18:18:36 GMT
Because you liked their old shit? That's why I'm here, last game I bought was DAI and that was the first Bioware game I ever returned. ._. I'm not supporting modern IPs and the company itself means nothing to me anymore. I'm not saying you have to like EA, just know that any BioWare purchase you make moving forward you are also supporting EA. Whether you like it or not. ._. Read what I said next time
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 18:22:05 GMT
You appear to be implying that this harms Disney in some way, while the opposite is true. The only way to harm them is if KOTOR sales (the title has been confirmed as requiring the old KOTOR exe to run) do not go to them, in which case this is just beyond stupid. Otherwise, this may very well have been a reason for KOTOR sales to spike again. Forget Fair Use, it protects the assholes here. Implying that they are thieves is beyond dishonorable, and I will not even go into that. I also find it ironic that this precise laughing in people's faces was something that bothered you a year ago, hence this whole "Get Ready..." PM chain. Suddenly it's fine? How is it not hypocritical? Whoa. Look at me go. Thank you. Like I said Disney has a reputation for being very stingy with its ips, the second I saw them promoting their I knew that they were gonna get shut down.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 14, 2018 18:22:54 GMT
I'm not saying you have to like EA, just know that any BioWare purchase you make moving forward you are also supporting EA. Whether you like it or not. ._. Read what I said next time I'm using "you" in a general sense.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 14, 2018 18:26:49 GMT
Characters, planets, gameplay, etc. They did not have permission to use any of that and yet they did. It’s taking something from them if you don’t have permission. Yes yes, it's within their rights. I mean, it's not like they were going to do something with KOTOR anytime soon. Agreed, it's disgusting... as is anyone who defends these practices The game came out FIFTEEN YEARS ago FFS
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 18:27:56 GMT
Yes yes, it's within their rights. I mean, it's not like they were going to do something with KOTOR anytime soon. Agreed, it's disgusting... as is anyone who defends these practices The game came out FIFTEEN YEARS ago FFS Stop the insults.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 14, 2018 18:32:33 GMT
Agreed, it's disgusting... as is anyone who defends these practices The game came out FIFTEEN YEARS ago FFS Stop the insults. Okay, just stay in the shallow side of the pool please
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Post by Hier0phant on Oct 14, 2018 18:34:07 GMT
Yes yes, it's within their rights. I mean, it's not like they were going to do something with KOTOR anytime soon. Agreed, it's disgusting... as is anyone who defends these practices The game came out FIFTEEN YEARS ago FFS EA's so insecure about Nufront 2 and Tor that they ran to Disney to get Aepeiron shut down despite them knowing about the project's heavily publicized existence since 2015.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 18:42:23 GMT
Okay, just stay in the shallow side of the pool please Yeah this just shows that Star Wars fans are more responsible for this divide than the creators. Happened with the prequels and it’s happening now.
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Post by mybudgee on Oct 14, 2018 18:44:04 GMT
Okay, just stay in the shallow side of the pool please Yeah this just shows that Star Wars fans are more responsible for this divide than the creators. Happened with the prequels and it’s happening now. Why aren't you wearing your water-wings?!? Do you WANT to drown?
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 14, 2018 18:44:17 GMT
Lol.
Smiles goes reee stop the insults. He's so tough and modern unless he's in the crosshairs. Just total lol.
Hanako thinks making mods that depend on the purchased game to work, and indeed would only increase sales of an ancient game, is definitely obviously thievery no doy duh lol.
Waples cannot comprehend that many of us are here because we were friends before he knew what a BSN was. Hi there yungun, we go where we want.
Fuck EA.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 18:45:50 GMT
Yeah this just shows that Star Wars fans are more responsible for this divide than the creators. Happened with the prequels and it’s happening now. Why aren't you wearing your water-wings?!? Do you WANT to drown? Keep at it. Itll definitely make people sympathize with you guys for what happened today.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 14, 2018 18:50:48 GMT
Why aren't you wearing your water-wings?!? Do you WANT to drown? Keep at it. Itll definitely make people sympathize with you guys for what happened today. Is something unusual going on here? I think we are 2/3 of the way around our usual circle now
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 14, 2018 18:52:40 GMT
Can we all just take a deep breath and chill for second? This back and forth is not helping.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 18:56:38 GMT
Can we all just take a deep breath and chill for second? This back and forth is not helping. We are all Star Wars fans. It’s a deep world in which there is something for everyone we shouldn’t be at each other’s throats and insulting each other. We may disagree on a lot of things but that doesn’t mean we can’t be civil.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Oct 14, 2018 18:58:22 GMT
Lol. Smiles goes reee stop the insults. He's so tough and modern unless he's in the crosshairs. Just total lol. Hanako thinks making mods that depend on the purchased game to work, and indeed would only increase sales of an ancient game, is definitely obviously thievery no doy duh lol. Waples cannot comprehend that many of us are here because we were friends before he knew what a BSN was. Hi there yungun, we go where we want. Fuck EA. Asking for civility apparently gets you mocked I guess. But then again I’m dealing with a child who can’t go five minutes without acting up. You would probably get less incivility if you actually stuck to a point and defended it. You rather slip and slide, always trying to seem reasonable while weakening your original position. I don't disagree with your main point: the SW IP is and always has been heavily protected, and every major mod project that wasn't directly modding the original game (K1/K2/JK/BF) has been shut down sooner or later. So, much of this is crying over spilled milk. Nevertheless, it is Draconian, harmful to their corporate image, and just stinks of Rat Cheese. For a company dealing with some issues, this doesn't help them. They could have talked to EA, and said, "hey, lighten up Francis." Modding is not illegal, btw. It is quasi-legal, just like the EULA. Grey areas abound, but much of it is simply fair use and nobody profits but the publisher in the end if a mod is successful. That argument is just a failure on every single level.
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Post by smilesja on Oct 14, 2018 19:01:02 GMT
Asking for civility apparently gets you mocked I guess. But then again I’m dealing with a child who can’t go five minutes without acting up. You would probably get less incivility if you actually stuck to a point and defended it. You rather slip and slide, always trying to seem reasonable while weakening your original position Dunno maybe the people here would actually ease up that way it wouldn’t be so hostile.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 14, 2018 19:11:34 GMT
Don't worry, the thread will be fine...
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