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There certainly addressing it now with all the extra content though. And Vader sacrificing himself to destroy Palpatine turned out to be a colossal waste of time... Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened.....
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 12, 2020 12:55:17 GMT
And Vader sacrificing himself to destroy Palpatine turned out to be a colossal waste of time... Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... Mouse Wars......That's funny
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Post by Obadiah on Apr 12, 2020 12:59:52 GMT
Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... Mouse Wars......That's funny The Mouse Wars were inevitable. Dun dun DUNNNN
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Years ago in College as part of a large case study on the original texts of fairytales like "Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The LIttle Mermaid, Aladdin, Snow White, The Bros. Grimm" etc....The course was called Fantasy & Fairy Tales...It was a study of the original texts and stories by authors like Hans Christien Andersen.....
Anyways, my Instructor had a license to show this documentary called "The Mickey Mouse Monopoly" detailing the rise of Walt Disney (the man and his company) into the literal monopoly it is today and it showed how even back in the 1940s 50s and so on, some of the practices that went on there weren't always on the up-and-up.....and now with the acquisition of such companies like FOX, Marvel and Lucasfilm it is the largest, most powerful, most influence entertainment company in the world. And the scary thing is, this documentary hit so many notes in so many ways in so many different lights on so many different levels, some good, some positive, some shady, others down right bordering on unethical....It was not afraid to show the company in both good and bad light. The positives and negatives of becoming such and large and powerful company.
At the time I watched the documentary ( some seven or eight years ago) Disney entirely blocked all public access to viewing that documentary; it could only be accessed by Universities and Colleges with a very specific license and expressed permission from Walt Disney, and the purposes for viewing it must be clearly outlined beforehand, because some of the material was not entirely favourable to Disney and they didn't want their reputation tarnished. (I wonder if the restrictions have been lifted in recent years?).
If anyone ever gets the opportunity to watch it.....If the restrictions have indeed been lifted in recent years....it is something I would highly recommend. I mean, we all remember the Walt Disney cartoons from when we were kids...and for many of us, those cartoons are the reasons we have a positive and happy memory and outlook of the Walt Disney Company. While this documentary certainly acknowledges the magic of Disney, it also un-apologetically sheds light on other topics that the greater general public may very well be unaware of.
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Post by cypherj on Apr 12, 2020 15:22:28 GMT
You could actually quite easily sum up the movies as a story about The Chosen One. Prequels: Anakin's Fal Originals: Anakin's Redemption Sequels: Anakin's Legacy You COULD, if you thought The Chosen One was Anakin, but that's not really clear in the movies - that's my point. If you watch 4-9, the prophecy isn't mentioned, other than a barely heard Anakin saying something about "bringing balance". He's basically Force Jesus, conceived by the Force. It was pretty clear to me. If you asked the average Star Wars movie viewer, not hard core fans who are over thinking things, but the average viewer who the movies portrayed as the Chosen One, the vast majority would obviously say Anakin. There was more than just some talk about bringing balance. Obi-Wan says isn't it the job of the Chosen One's to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force. Mace Windu then says so the prophecy says. That was when Yoda said it could have been misread. They all thought it was Anakin. They just didn't seem to know what his true purpose was, or how he would accomplish it. But the whole prophecy thing never made any sense to me anyway. How does wiping out one side bring balance to anything? If anything, that throws things completely out of balance. The only place where there was balance was on Mortis with the Father, the Son, and the Daughter. Who also looked at Anakin as the Chosen One. It's been pretty consistent.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2020 15:36:09 GMT
And Vader sacrificing himself to destroy Palpatine turned out to be a colossal waste of time... Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... This is quite true. Luke and Vader dying on the Death Star would have been better for the entire galaxy, according to Disney.
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Years ago in College as part of a large case study on the original texts of fairytales like "Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The LIttle Mermaid, Aladdin, Snow White, The Bros. Grimm" etc....The course was called Fantasy & Fairy Tales...It was a study of the original texts and stories by authors like Hans Christien Andersen..... Anyways, my Instructor had a license to show this documentary called "The Mickey Mouse Monopoly" detailing the rise of Walt Disney (the man and his company) into the literal monopoly it is today and it showed how even back in the 1940s 50s and so on, some of the practices that went on there weren't always on the up-and-up.....and now with the acquisition of such companies like FOX, Marvel and Lucasfilm it is the largest, most powerful, most influence entertainment company in the world. And the scary thing is, this documentary hit so many notes in so many ways in so many different lights on so many different levels, some good, some positive, some shady, others down right bordering on unethical....It was not afraid to show the company in both good and bad light. The positives and negatives of becoming such and large and powerful company. At the time I watched the documentary ( some seven or eight years ago) Disney entirely blocked all public access to viewing that documentary; it could only be accessed by Universities and Colleges with a very specific license and expressed permission from Walt Disney, and the purposes for viewing it must be clearly outlined beforehand, because some of the material was not entirely favourable to Disney and they didn't want their reputation tarnished. (I wonder if the restrictions have been lifted in recent years?). If anyone ever gets the opportunity to watch it.....If the restrictions have indeed been lifted in recent years....it is something I would highly recommend. I mean, we all remember the Walt Disney cartoons from when we were kids...and for many of us, those cartoons are the reasons we have a positive and happy memory and outlook of the Walt Disney Company. While this documentary certainly acknowledges the magic of Disney, it also un-apologetically sheds light on other topics that the greater general public may very well be unaware of. Disney NEEDS to be broken up.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 12, 2020 15:56:48 GMT
Years ago in College as part of a large case study on the original texts of fairytales like "Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The LIttle Mermaid, Aladdin, Snow White, The Bros. Grimm" etc....The course was called Fantasy & Fairy Tales...It was a study of the original texts and stories by authors like Hans Christien Andersen..... Anyways, my Instructor had a license to show this documentary called "The Mickey Mouse Monopoly" detailing the rise of Walt Disney (the man and his company) into the literal monopoly it is today and it showed how even back in the 1940s 50s and so on, some of the practices that went on there weren't always on the up-and-up.....and now with the acquisition of such companies like FOX, Marvel and Lucasfilm it is the largest, most powerful, most influence entertainment company in the world. And the scary thing is, this documentary hit so many notes in so many ways in so many different lights on so many different levels, some good, some positive, some shady, others down right bordering on unethical....It was not afraid to show the company in both good and bad light. The positives and negatives of becoming such and large and powerful company. At the time I watched the documentary ( some seven or eight years ago) Disney entirely blocked all public access to viewing that documentary; it could only be accessed by Universities and Colleges with a very specific license and expressed permission from Walt Disney, and the purposes for viewing it must be clearly outlined beforehand, because some of the material was not entirely favourable to Disney and they didn't want their reputation tarnished. (I wonder if the restrictions have been lifted in recent years?). If anyone ever gets the opportunity to watch it.....If the restrictions have indeed been lifted in recent years....it is something I would highly recommend. I mean, we all remember the Walt Disney cartoons from when we were kids...and for many of us, those cartoons are the reasons we have a positive and happy memory and outlook of the Walt Disney Company. While this documentary certainly acknowledges the magic of Disney, it also un-apologetically sheds light on other topics that the greater general public may very well be unaware of. Disney NEEDS to be broken up. Yes, there is definitely that point. At some point every company gets so big it becomes too big, and too powerful. It's influence extending into many other avenues well beyond its intended purpose. "Too many fingers in too many pies"...., and I for one don't necessarily agree that any company, or any one person should have that much power or influence. The same could be said for the Telecommunications companies here in Canada and especially in Ontario where Bell and Rogers have the monopolies thanks to Government regulation and the CRTC (Canadian Radio and Telecommunications Commission). Sure there are smaller companies like FIDO, Chatr and Virgin Canada but each of those are in turn owned by either Rogers or Bell, so one way or another you're a customer of Rogers or Bell. The only other large competitor in telecommunications is Telus and they own KooDo. However, FreedomMobile (formerly known as WIND Mobile, a small company from Alberta) was purchased by Shaw COmmunications in 2017-18, and it is their aimto be as big as the other three with a Network that is equivalent by 2022.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2020 16:17:13 GMT
Heh, if these rumors are true, Disney is REALLY trying to unf*ck the situation the ST has left them in. Almost certainly a futile attempt.
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Rey stole my lightsaber! Yellow was my favourite colour....she can't have it! Well, it was either yellow or silver. I've always that a sparkling silver blade with a white inner core would look kinda hot. I can picture the colour exactly in my head the way it looks, but nothing I've ever seen is anywhere even close. I'm picturing a metalic sparkling fleck, like what you get with an oil-based paint pen or the high-end paint you seen on Mercedes....There is an unmistakable sparkling silver to that paint. Not grey, but silver. I've always pictured a really beautiful lightsaber being a sparkling silver/white blade with a hilt that is a combination of black and chrome. And of course the ignition/deactivation sound would have to be the same as Luke's green lightsaber. Don't know how they made that sound, but I love it.
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Post by Obadiah on Apr 12, 2020 17:46:00 GMT
You COULD, if you thought The Chosen One was Anakin, but that's not really clear in the movies - that's my point. If you watch 4-9, the prophecy isn't mentioned, other than a barely heard Anakin saying something about "bringing balance". He's basically Force Jesus, conceived by the Force. It was pretty clear to me. If you asked the average Star Wars movie viewer, not hard core fans who are over thinking things, but the average viewer who the movies portrayed as the Chosen One, the vast majority would obviously say Anakin.... I agree with the caveat - if you force them to assume the Chosen One prophecy is real and choose a character from the movies. Average Star Wars fans may not even remember what midichlorines are. ... There was more than just some talk about bringing balance. Obi-Wan says isn't it the job of the Chosen One's to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the force. Mace Windu then says so the prophecy says. That was when Yoda said it could have been misread. They all thought it was Anakin. They just didn't seem to know what his true purpose was, or how he would accomplish it. I was referring to the mention of the prophecy in movies 4-9, and as I said, it was a thing in the prequels, barely mentioned afterwards, and is not at all clear if it was real or interpreted correctly, or even central to the series of movies other than the fact that it got the Jedi to break their own rules and train Anakin. ... But the whole prophecy thing never made any sense to me anyway. How does wiping out one side bring balance to anything? If anything, that throws things completely out of balance. The only place where there was balance was on Mortis with the Father, the Son, and the Daughter. Who also looked at Anakin as the Chosen One. It's been pretty consistent. Mortis story is pretty interesting. I like the EU (original and new Disney), and I don't want to get into an argument about what sources that are external to the movies explain, because by their nature they can always be overwritten by some subsequent writer and story with a different take on things. I'll just return to my basic point, that if you stick to the movies - the Chosen One prophecy is mostly a prequel thing, and it is not at all clear if the Chosen One prophecy is real and that Anakin is he.
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Post by colfoley on Apr 12, 2020 19:58:22 GMT
Aside from the one line in TROS (Bring back the balance Rey...as I did.) they really didn't touch the Chosen One Prophecy with a ten foot pole (thank the Force). I'm truly sorry colfoley , I respect you & enjoy debating you... but this is empirical proof that you're clearly delusional beyond reason Let's look at the OBJECTIVE things the sequels (but especially ep. 9) have done to retcon/undermine the Classic Trilogy with their stupid nonsense 1- Anakin didn't actually, REALLY redeem himself or kill Sheev (because Palpatine was a clone or he transferred his spirit to another realm or some such garbage) 2- The simple fact that Sheev returned without any info on it or explanation is insulting to the classic trilogy enough, but his use as a one-dimensional cardboard cutout simply and childishly used as a means of inflating the Ma-Rey legend is pathetic 3- If Anakin had appeared as a ghost and given Rey his blessing or some advice or training would have been a relief, but all we got was a whisper 4- This awful page of middle-school level drivel starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chosen_One ....1. You know I think I had an entirely different opening but I just realized...how didn't Anakin didn't redeem himself? What does it only count as redemption as long as you succeed in doing what you want? I mean in that case no redemption stories are really redemption stories since 99% of redemption stories ends with the person's death in their attempt to redeam themselves and their failure (IE Boromir failed to stop the Uruks from taking Merry and Pippen). 2. Yes we have already discussed how him coming back may have been bad writing. I don't know though maybe its just how much I like Ian as an actor or how much I like the character of Palpatine but he certainly didn't come off as a cardboard cutout. I mean sure his screentime was limited because the main dramtic tension was between Rey and Kylo Ren and he was just the one last desperate gasp of the Old Order trying to hang onto its power. And I suppose throughout most of the movie he WAS a cardboard cutout because he was a fraction of his power, health, and was basically strapped to a life support apparatus. But all things considered, especially when he reached his full power he was pretty much back to being Grandaddy of evil Palp. Some terrific lines, some terrific moments, and just chewed the sceneary. "Nothing will stop the RETURN OF THE SITH". "Do it...make the sacrifice". "You are nothing...a scavenger girl is no match for the power in me...I am ALL the Sith." And yes these lines are so memorable I can actually quote them from memory. 3. Sure Anakin (and all the Jedi) appearing as Force Ghosts would've been nice. But the entire point of the scene was Anakin and the thousands of generations of Jedi was explicitly giving her their blessing because she had rejected the darkside influence within herself once and for all. Palpatine offered her the throne, offered to give her a place in the story, offered her her birthright and being the next generation of Sith...and she rejected it. Thus demonstrating her commitment to the Jedi order in a literal and philsophical point of view. I mean... it was a prophecy in the prequels, but when did the Star Wars movies become a story of "the Chosen One"? If anything, in the movies at least, the prophecy was just one more element of Jedi arrogance after Anakin fell. I'm glad you brought this up since I was going to say it anyways... My opinion of George is actually on the upswing right now but I still think some of his choices were really weird. The OT was a bunch of scrappy individualists and Big Good freedom fighters taking on an evil fascistic Empire with some space magic. Especially the first one. And then everyone became related (though this did help in the end for Star Wars it also was a sign of things to come) and then the prequels just continued to add onto it with mystical prophecies and bringing balance to the Force and a whole lot of other...baggage. Not all of it was entirely bad baggage but looking back on it it was a REALLY weird choice and well Disney dropped most of that mumbo jumbo and just got back to a character focused narrative but hey what do I know... I'm truly sorry colfoley , I respect you & enjoy debating you... but this is empirical proof that you're clearly delusional beyond reason Let's look at the OBJECTIVE things the sequels (but especially ep. 9) have done to retcon/undermine the Classic Trilogy with their stupid nonsense 1- Anakin didn't actually, REALLY redeem himself or kill Sheev (because Palpatine was a clone or he transferred his spirit to another realm or some such garbage) 2- The simple fact that Sheev returned without any info on it or explanation is insulting to the classic trilogy enough, but his use as a one-dimensional cardboard cutout simply and childishly used as a means of inflating the Ma-Rey legend is pathetic 3- If Anakin had appeared as a ghost and given Rey his blessing or some advice or training would have been a relief, but all we got was a whisper 4- This awful page of middle-school level drivel starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Chosen_One5 Not to mention that aside from "Because Rey" there is in fact no reason why Palpatine can't just come back again and start this nonsense all over again. SO what is even the point of a Chosen One prophecy now? *shrugs* Until I see evidence to the contrary I will just assume she has destroyed his spirit once and for all because of the Force lightning. I mean granted I guess you could've made that same assumption at the end of RoTJ but then they did bring him back even in the Old EU so... And sure if he does come back it will probably be very annoying but I don't think he will and well if he does I'll just judge it then. And Vader sacrificing himself to destroy Palpatine turned out to be a colossal waste of time... Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... This is quite true. Luke and Vader dying on the Death Star would have been better for the entire galaxy, according to Disney. Funny I was just musing on this very subject...well yesterday...and I feel like this could be repeating myself but lets go through this logically shall we? Palpatine doesen't die. Either because Vader didn't sacrifice himself for and remained loyal or he did and died. So with that out of the way the implication then becomes the Alliance loses the battle of Endor which in the long term means AT LEAST thirty more years of Imperial Rule because I just find it hard to believe another Rebellion would rise with a better chance of overcoming the Empire. In the short term going down to the long term this means Han's likely dead. Chewie's dead. Wedge and Lando are dead. Leia is either dead or being totally unprepared for this particular burden is either converted to the Dark Side (maybe even Palpatines new apprentice) or dead. And with all of these actions no Rey, no Poe, no Ben Solo which...yey I can hear what everyone is saying 'no mary sues no Disney Wars!' but you have to consider that they would be the next likely people to rise against the Empire and defeat them. And IF Leia becomes the next Darth that means Palpatine has a clear line of succession for the Sith. Now one day maybe a revolution would happen and over throw all of this but we are talking about decades in the future, all else being equal.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 12, 2020 20:42:00 GMT
Maybe Luke and Vader should've died at the end of ROTJ. That way, the Mouse Wars movies wouldn't have happened..... This is quite true. Luke and Vader dying on the Death Star would have been better for the entire galaxy, according to Disney. And Emo Cosplayer Vader wouldn't have existed! 😉
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Post by Son of Dorn on Apr 12, 2020 21:03:40 GMT
Years ago in College as part of a large case study on the original texts of fairytales like "Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, The LIttle Mermaid, Aladdin, Snow White, The Bros. Grimm" etc....The course was called Fantasy & Fairy Tales...It was a study of the original texts and stories by authors like Hans Christien Andersen..... Anyways, my Instructor had a license to show this documentary called "The Mickey Mouse Monopoly" detailing the rise of Walt Disney (the man and his company) into the literal monopoly it is today and it showed how even back in the 1940s 50s and so on, some of the practices that went on there weren't always on the up-and-up.....and now with the acquisition of such companies like FOX, Marvel and Lucasfilm it is the largest, most powerful, most influence entertainment company in the world. And the scary thing is, this documentary hit so many notes in so many ways in so many different lights on so many different levels, some good, some positive, some shady, others down right bordering on unethical....It was not afraid to show the company in both good and bad light. The positives and negatives of becoming such and large and powerful company. At the time I watched the documentary ( some seven or eight years ago) Disney entirely blocked all public access to viewing that documentary; it could only be accessed by Universities and Colleges with a very specific license and expressed permission from Walt Disney, and the purposes for viewing it must be clearly outlined beforehand, because some of the material was not entirely favourable to Disney and they didn't want their reputation tarnished. (I wonder if the restrictions have been lifted in recent years?). If anyone ever gets the opportunity to watch it.....If the restrictions have indeed been lifted in recent years....it is something I would highly recommend. I mean, we all remember the Walt Disney cartoons from when we were kids...and for many of us, those cartoons are the reasons we have a positive and happy memory and outlook of the Walt Disney Company. While this documentary certainly acknowledges the magic of Disney, it also un-apologetically sheds light on other topics that the greater general public may very well be unaware of. Disney NEEDS to be broken up. Can we break it up with a chainsaw while the Rip and Tear soundtrack plays?
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2020 21:50:24 GMT
3. Sure Anakin (and all the Jedi) appearing as Force Ghosts would've been nice. But the entire point of the scene was Anakin and the thousands of generations of Jedi was explicitly giving her their blessing because she had rejected the darkside influence within herself once and for all. Palpatine offered her the throne, offered to give her a place in the story, offered her her birthright and being the next generation of Sith...and she rejected it. Thus demonstrating her commitment to the Jedi order in a literal and philsophical point of view. And where were "all the Jedi" when Luke faced Vader (either time)? Or when he faced Palpatine? Or when Yoda faced him? Or Mace Windu? Why the Force Goddess? Or: Han and Leia and Chewie blow the shield generator, Lando and WEdge destroy the DEath Star, everyone on board dies: Luke, Vader, and Palpatine included. According to Disney, this would have been the ideal outcome.
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Post by mybudgee on Apr 12, 2020 22:58:56 GMT
I'm truly sorry colfoley , I respect you & enjoy debating you... but this is empirical proof that you're clearly delusional beyond reason 2. Yes we have already discussed how him coming back may have been bad writing. I don't know though maybe its just how much I like Ian as an actor or how much I like the character of Palpatine but he certainly didn't come off as a cardboard cutout. I mean sure his screentime was limited because the main dramtic tension was between Rey and Kylo Ren and he was just the one last desperate gasp of the Old Order trying to hang onto its power. And I suppose throughout most of the movie he WAS a cardboard cutout because he was a fraction of his power, health, and was basically strapped to a life support apparatus. But all things considered, especially when he reached his full power he was pretty much back to being Grandaddy of evil Palp. Some terrific lines, some terrific moments, and just chewed the sceneary. "Nothing will stop the RETURN OF THE SITH". "Do it...make the sacrifice". "You are nothing...a scavenger girl is no match for the power in me...I am ALL the Sith." And yes these lines are so memorable I can actually quote them from memory. It's like a 12 year-old wrote a version of spaceballs, but we're supposed to take it seriously...
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Post by colfoley on Apr 12, 2020 23:06:37 GMT
3. Sure Anakin (and all the Jedi) appearing as Force Ghosts would've been nice. But the entire point of the scene was Anakin and the thousands of generations of Jedi was explicitly giving her their blessing because she had rejected the darkside influence within herself once and for all. Palpatine offered her the throne, offered to give her a place in the story, offered her her birthright and being the next generation of Sith...and she rejected it. Thus demonstrating her commitment to the Jedi order in a literal and philsophical point of view. And where were "all the Jedi" when Luke faced Vader (either time)? Or when he faced Palpatine? Or when Yoda faced him? Or Mace Windu? Why the Force Goddess? Or: Han and Leia and Chewie blow the shield generator, Lando and WEdge destroy the DEath Star, everyone on board dies: Luke, Vader, and Palpatine included. According to Disney, this would have been the ideal outcome. Its a good question. Based on everything that we know of through 'all the Star Wars'...they just might not have had the ability to help, en masse like that. (Or it might've not been the right time but that opens up a whole nother can of worms.) Now we know for a fact that Jedi can 'manifest themselves through the Force in the physical world' even long after death thanks to Qui Gon learning how to do it and teaching the ability to Yoda who then taught it to Obi-Wan. We also heard SEVERAL voices during the 'rally scene' that could not have possibly learned how to do it before their death, like Adia Gailia, Aayla Secura, and Mace Windu. And yet we heard their voices so we know that they learned the ability to do so. My likely supposition here is that Yoda, after death, was going around teaching all the Force spirits how to do this ability and it was just ready by the time that Rey needed them. This was also alluded to in the final episode of the Clone Wars...well before they gave us a season 7... when Yoda mentioned that the ability for Force ghosting may be the key to victory 'for all time'. I also think that this is likely what happened on the other side too. Granted, this is more supposition...but I think Palpatine only learned about the all the Sith stuff and how to do it after he 'died' on the Death Star 2. There really wasn't too much evidence that he was explicitly 'all the Sith' in Return of the Jedi for instance. So this set up a final fight between 'all the Sith' versus 'all the Jedi'. Both of these sides been using their influence more passively for eons (where I think you get the light side and dark side of the Force for instance) but now they knew how to more definitively manifest their will on the physical world. Sure that is one way of doing it...except the First Order would've been a thing there still, since that was already a part of Palpatine's contingency planning. Sure they wouldn't have Snoke leading them most likely (asuming of course Death Star II blowing up wouldn't have still caused Palp's spirit to do its thang...which actually might mean Palp would've survived and the galaxy would've been screwed anyways because he wouldn't have been afraid of Luke curbstomping him...ANYWAYS) but the First Order would've been a threat and there would have been no major threats to stop them. Granted this is all speculation pretty much since I am a lot more dubious on the Rebels winning the battle of Endor with Palp dying then without but even then I think the Galaxy is highly likely to be pretty much screwed for awhile.
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Post by Obadiah on Apr 12, 2020 23:37:50 GMT
Betcha when Rey dies, she does all kinda crazy Force ghost shit you ain't never seen before.😂
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on Apr 12, 2020 23:54:31 GMT
Betcha when Rey dies, she does all kinda crazy Force ghost shit you ain't never seen before.😂 Oh, that'll be a given Obadiah. That's a hard-locked green light for sure on that one.
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Post by Iakus on Apr 13, 2020 3:27:40 GMT
Took me a moment to realize you meant Rey since I immediately thought of the actual Force Goddesses. Colfoley gets mad when she gets called May Rey Sue
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Post by Iakus on Apr 13, 2020 3:30:11 GMT
Betcha when Rey dies, she does all kinda crazy Force ghost shit you ain't never seen before.😂 Who says she's ever gonna die?
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Post by colfoley on Apr 13, 2020 3:42:45 GMT
Took me a moment to realize you meant Rey since I immediately thought of the actual Force Goddesses. Colfoley gets mad when she gets called May Rey Sue Actually no I don't I find that funny. Hell I even call her that from time to time in my own day to day activities.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 13, 2020 4:43:49 GMT
Betcha when Rey dies, she does all kinda crazy Force ghost shit you ain't never seen before.😂 Who says she's ever gonna die? She is a Palpatine after all.
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