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Post by Sifr on Jan 18, 2021 17:30:16 GMT
This reminds me. The only real problem I had with the entire scene in the show was the music. It was good music, don't get me wrong. But it sounded so uncertain and almost scary, the entire sequence. Even after you had reason to believe it was a Jedi, much less Luke, it stays dark. I couldn't help thinking at the time, once I realized it was him, that there should be a shift in the music by this point to show hope, like a soft thread of the force theme/tatooine music going in the background. My guess is part of it is to match the perspective of the people in the room. Gideon is terrified, Mando has never seen a Jedi Master before, and everyone else their relationship with Jedi is...complicated. So either they are uncertain or scared, fitting the music. From his point of view, the Jedi who destroyed two Death Stars, fought Vader numerous times and was the sole survivor of a confrontation with both Vader and Sidious, has appeared out of nowhere to board his ship and is even that moment in the process of cutting through his elite battle droids like tin-foil, on a warpath that leads directly to Gideon's location.
I know that's only the popular fan interpretation for Gideon's terror, but I kinda dig the idea of Luke Skywalker being something of a legendary boogeyman to ex-Imperial soldiers, much like Vader obviously was for the Rebels. In both hallway scenes, they come across as unholy, unstoppable juggernauts and the tone switches to that of a slasher film.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 18, 2021 17:48:58 GMT
My guess is part of it is to match the perspective of the people in the room. Gideon is terrified, Mando has never seen a Jedi Master before, and everyone else their relationship with Jedi is...complicated. So either they are uncertain or scared, fitting the music. From his point of view, the Jedi who destroyed two Death Stars, fought Vader numerous times and was the sole survivor of a confrontation with both Vader and Sidious, has appeared out of nowhere to board his ship and is even that moment in the process of cutting through his elite battle droids like tin-foil, on a warpath that leads directly to Gideon's location.
I know that's only the popular fan interpretation for Gideon's terror, but I kinda dig the idea of Luke Skywalker being something of a legendary boogeyman to ex-Imperial soldiers, much like Vader obviously was for the Rebels. In both hallway scenes, they come across as unholy, unstoppable juggernauts and the tone switches to that of a slasher film.
Grogu, otoh, looks eager to meet him, and has his hand on the screen the entire time.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 18, 2021 18:07:15 GMT
Vader saying “Obi-Wan has taught you well.” the moment Luke jumps up there, this has the high ground, makes that scene retroactively hilarious.
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Post by Sifr on Jan 18, 2021 18:32:15 GMT
Vader saying “Obi-Wan has taught you well.” the moment Luke jumps up there, this has the high ground, makes that scene retroactively hilarious. I recently started watching the Clone Wars series and I loved seeing them play with stuff like this.
Such as in S1 when they had General Grievous drop down behind Obi-Wan and quip "Hello there".
Not only is it a funny call-forward for the audience to RotS, but it subverts our expectations because we'd assume that Obi-Wan would have had the same response to Grevious trying to get the jump on him, only for him not to say his iconic line.
But the funniest layer to the joke by far is the realisation that in-universe, Obi-Wan pulling the same stunt against Grevious in RotS means that when given the chance to end the war by taking down the enemy general in a stealth strike, Obi-Wan threw it away because he couldn't resist the opportunity to deliver a funny callback.
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Post by Iakus on Jan 19, 2021 17:00:38 GMT
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Post by Iakus on Jan 19, 2021 20:54:59 GMT
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Post by skekSil on Jan 19, 2021 23:00:21 GMT
This presupposes that Force Healing and Palpatine's "cheating death" is the same thing.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 20, 2021 18:02:02 GMT
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 21, 2021 13:46:40 GMT
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 21, 2021 14:21:35 GMT
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Post by Sifr on Jan 21, 2021 17:55:23 GMT
Proof Grogu didn't die when Luke's Jedi temple was razed, because Mando would not have let Kylo leave that planet alive.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2021 20:20:45 GMT
A 15 year old Jedi Knight? Lol.
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Post by skekSil on Jan 21, 2021 21:51:50 GMT
A 15 year old Jedi Knight? Lol. why not?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 21, 2021 22:17:50 GMT
A 15 year old Jedi Knight? Lol. why not? I'm guessing the answer will be: *insert whining about the old movies or prequels (like being younger than Anakin) bla bla bla*
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2021 22:43:17 GMT
I'm guessing the answer will be: *insert whining about the old movies or prequels (like being younger than Anakin) bla bla bla* Watch it Hanako seriously.
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Post by cypherj on Jan 21, 2021 22:59:33 GMT
A 15 year old Jedi Knight? Lol. It's not the age, as much as the exemplary light saber skills and connection with the force. Being one of the youngest ever Jedi Knights. Having to take command on her first escort mission, which she is obviously going to be successful at, and save the day. I mean, is every protagonist they have from now on going to be one of the best at everything from the start of the story, and succeed at everything right away?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 21, 2021 23:00:29 GMT
I'm guessing the answer will be: *insert whining about the old movies or prequels (like being younger than Anakin) bla bla bla* Watch it Hanako seriously. Oh? Or what? Seriously, threatening someone over a piece of fictional media?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 21, 2021 23:05:05 GMT
A 15 year old Jedi Knight? Lol. It's not the age, as much as the exemplary light saber skills and connection with the force. Being one of the youngest ever Jedi Knights. Having to take command on her first escort mission, which she is obviously going to be successful at, and save the day. I mean, is every protagonist they have from now on going to be one of the best at everything from the start of the story, and succeed at everything right away? So...the way things have been since the start of the franchise?
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Post by cypherj on Jan 21, 2021 23:15:59 GMT
It's not the age, as much as the exemplary light saber skills and connection with the force. Being one of the youngest ever Jedi Knights. Having to take command on her first escort mission, which she is obviously going to be successful at, and save the day. I mean, is every protagonist they have from now on going to be one of the best at everything from the start of the story, and succeed at everything right away? So...the way things have been since the start of the franchise? Yeah. If you don't count getting beaten up by sandmen, Yetti, losing hands and limbs, murdering villages of innocent beings, failing trials of the spirit, struggling to move one rock, and falling to the dark side. Other than those things and some others, exactly the same.
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Post by smilesja on Jan 21, 2021 23:17:49 GMT
Watch it Hanako seriously. Oh? Or what? Seriously, threatening someone over a piece of fictional media? Quit acting like you're a victim Hanako, that post was trying to bait me. Seriously Hanako you have a real attitude problem.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 21, 2021 23:28:41 GMT
Oh? Or what? Seriously, threatening someone over a piece of fictional media? Quit acting like you're a victim Hanako, that post was trying to bait me. Seriously Hanako you have a real attitude problem. Had no intention to bait, or interact at all for that matter, with you. If I did, I would have quoted you. Now drop it. You’re the real one with an attitude problem here.
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