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Post by mybudgee on Jul 1, 2018 19:07:26 GMT
Very good video. I get snarky and nasty sometimes because of exhaustion ... He makes good points but imo he’s wrong. The fans have done exactly what he says they haven’t and also imo the only point I might agree with about TLJ is the pacing. Overall imo the movie was great.
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 1, 2018 19:11:14 GMT
He makes good points but imo he’s wrong. The fans have done exactly what he says they haven’t and also imo the only point I might agree with about TLJ is the pacing. Overall imo the movie was great.It’s my opinion. Get over it.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jul 1, 2018 19:14:36 GMT
It’s my opinion. Get over it. No. There is more than opinion going on here. It may be your opinion that all of this is a matter of opinion, but it isn't and you are mistaken. The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling.
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Post by mybudgee on Jul 1, 2018 19:22:33 GMT
It’s my opinion. Get over it.
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- Cool! Congratulations.
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Post by warden on Jul 1, 2018 20:13:32 GMT
It’s my opinion. Get over it. No. There is more than opinion going on here. It may be your opinion that all of this is a matter of opinion, but it isn't and you are mistaken. The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling. This user has been going on and on over for how much now? 5 pages? 8? at this point is not even an opinion, it's constantly ranting, and harassing every single user on the thread. He has the same behavior in the Mass Effect subforum, so no surprise there.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 1, 2018 20:18:56 GMT
No. There is more than opinion going on here. It may be your opinion that all of this is a matter of opinion, but it isn't and you are mistaken. The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling. This user has been going on and on over for how much now? 5 pages? 8? at this point is not even an opinion, it's constantly ranting, and harassing every single user on the thread. He has the same behavior in the Mass Effect subforum, so no surprise there. That's rich. This thread has been ranting ever since TLJ came out...🙄
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 1, 2018 20:27:41 GMT
This user has been going on and on over for how much now? 5 pages? 8? at this point is not even an opinion, it's constantly ranting, and harassing every single user on the thread. He has the same behavior in the Mass Effect subforum, so no surprise there. That's rich. This thread has been ranting ever since TLJ came out...🙄 It really is. Wonder if they’ve ever heard the phrase “Pot calling the kettle black.”
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 1, 2018 20:28:23 GMT
It’s my opinion. Get over it. No. There is more than opinion going on here. It may be your opinion that all of this is a matter of opinion, but it isn't and you are mistaken. The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling. Might want to look in the mirror bud.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Jul 1, 2018 20:53:08 GMT
No. There is more than opinion going on here. It may be your opinion that all of this is a matter of opinion, but it isn't and you are mistaken. The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling. Might want to look in the mirror bud. How so? I have made criticisms of the literary content of the new movies. These criticisms have been echoed in countless videos. Experts have agreed, and yet you and the feels brigade want me to look in the mirror? That's what I do everyday, I question myself constantly, and always try to make a better choice. I evaluate the world according to well-established metrics. You: its muh opinion, and thays all dat mayyers.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 1, 2018 21:02:27 GMT
Might want to look in the mirror bud. How so? I have made criticisms of the literary content of the new movies. These criticisms have been echoed in countless videos. Experts have agreed, and yet you and the feels brigade want me to look in the mirror? That's what I do everyday, I question myself constantly, and always try to make a better choice. I evaluate the world according to well-established metrics. You: its muh opinion, and thays all dat mayyers. You think YouTubers are "experts"? Don't make me laugh.
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Post by HK90210 on Jul 1, 2018 21:30:25 GMT
It’s my opinion. Get over it. Opinions are like *insert disgusting bodily orifice here*. Everyone's got one. Shoving your opinion around as if your opinion itself is an argument isn't going to get you a lot of respect or change anyone's mind. Of course, if you're not after either of those, I'm curious what your goal is. Generally when presented with a disagreement, one presents evidence, arguments and theories as to why your opinion is the more valid one, and your opponent's opinion is flawed. That's generally how actual debates over disagreements go. If that doesn't interest you, I'm not sure why you're here. It helps to have evidence to back up one's opinion in order to be taken seriously. I haven't seen very much compelling evidence that TLJ is a great movie. Personally, I can't wait to see CenemaWins do The Last Jedi. They can make any terrible film look pretty decent. If you want to see someone provide convincing arguments towards why a film is good, watch those videos.
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Post by Heimdall on Jul 1, 2018 21:53:23 GMT
Well, this guy liked the movie, or at least he’s tired of the hyperbolic negativity. And he’s here to remind us that the old EU was pretty bad sometimes:
It’s an entertaining video
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Post by HK90210 on Jul 1, 2018 22:28:33 GMT
Well, this guy liked the movie, or at least he’s tired of the hyperbolic negativity. And he’s here to remind us that the old EU was pretty bad sometimes: It’s an entertaining video Yeah, 'sometimes'. Lol. I may be an ardent fan of the EU, but it definitely had plenty of bad stuff over the years. One of the things I was a big supporter of when Disney took over was the hard reset on the EU. I really liked that they went for a clean slate, I'm just not happy with what they replaced it with. I had high hopes for Disney's EU.
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Post by B. Hieronymus Da on Jul 1, 2018 22:39:41 GMT
This user has been going on and on over for how much now? 5 pages? 8? at this point is not even an opinion, it's constantly ranting, and harassing every single user on the thread. He has the same behavior in the Mass Effect subforum, so no surprise there. That's rich. This thread has been ranting ever since TLJ came out...🙄 - Yep! - And rightly so!
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Post by SofaJockey on Jul 1, 2018 22:54:24 GMT
The fact that you belabor this and have only one defense ever, and shout it like a talisman, is akin to trolling. Belaboring opinions is part of BSN DNA. Have a different view? Share it. Want to talk someone out of theirs? A much tougher proposition and both fruitless and moderator aggravating. If in doubt about getting into an argument, please watch this nice video, then when it's finished, see if you still want to post in the Star Wars thread.
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Post by mybudgee on Jul 1, 2018 23:41:56 GMT
What I will say however is that stating "TLJ was great" is not really a conversation starter. My only response to that is a shrug. On the other hand, if someone wants to point out something TLJ did particularly well, and explain why they think so, that might be something worthy of discussion.<iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 4.900000000000006px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43276023" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32761950" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_35789863" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_37492494" scrolling="no"></iframe> Let's be honest for a moment, shall we? The REAL reason people defend this "film" (episode 8 or any other cinematic abortion which is less about filmmaking and more about finding a platform for misguided, juvenile agendas) and pretend it's good/clever/just what we need is for one of two reasons; either said person is on the spectrum, or they are a cowardly & naive individual. Why the strong language you ask? It is pretty necessary, & I'll expand on that statement. Anyone with any perspective can see fairly clearly what Ruin Johnson/K. Kennedy's agenda was with this middle part of the sequel trilogy. (Hint; it isn't actually clever subversion of expectations) That's right; 3rd wave FEMINISM. We need to establish something as more-or-less fact right out of the gate; Feminism is a great thing. It was necessary to get women out from under the oppressive thumb of men who were sadists and psychopaths. You'll notice I underlined the word "WAS", and this is no accident. The first & second waves to the movement were very beneficial to western society in general, and women specifically (of course). They legitimately couldn't vote or own property in the 19th century. There was a real meaning to the cliche "rule of thumb", which meant if your wife/daughter "got any ideas" a man, usually her husband/father could get away with BEATING her as long as the blunt object used was no bigger than HIS THUMB. Things were very bad for women... in the past. Now, in today's society the feminist movement is not quite the same thing. Of course some women are truly oppressed. Of course there are ALWAYS horrible things happening to good people, somewhere. However to say something along the lines of "modern women are oppressed" or "Kevin Spacey should get ten years in a Federal prison" is idiocy. The modern woman in western society has ALL that feminists of the early 20th century dreamed of & FOUGHT FOR. The 3rd wave feminist movement is a sham, perpetrated by spoiled college kids and angry "Tumblr lesbians", and it has even less direction or focus than leadership. 3rd wave Feminism is the social equivalent of "restless-leg-syndrome" I am aware that many movies have been made with political agendas woven throughout (including the Holy Trilogy). I am also aware that episode 8 DOES indeed have some redeeming qualities. However, to go to such lengths to execute beloved characters, and to banally pound away with tropes like Forced diversity or Strong Female leads is obviously a pander to the lowest common denominator and some of us will always see through it. It reeks of pathetic desperation, and more tragically dates a film that is supposed to feel somewhat timeless. My point is, if you say episode 8 is a great movie, ask yourself "Why?" What is it that's so great?? Which brings me to my point; people defending the Last Jedi are almost always younger, liberal to moderate and naive. They are cowards because they lack the fortitude to accept that they are willingly being manipulated by corporations, and they are naive because they lack experience/perspective or even worse, actively CHOOSE to ignore the obvious signs all around them. Either way, they need to see that not everyone is onboard the mindless Political-Correctness train, and (most importantly) it's okay if they question authority once in a while. It is okay to make up you own mind about things. Shocking, isn't it?
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Post by mybudgee on Jul 1, 2018 23:46:31 GMT
SofaJockey: What the hell is with the formatting lately? ^ You seeing this??
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Post by Evil on Jul 2, 2018 0:54:21 GMT
SofaJockey : What the hell is with the formatting lately? ^ You seeing this?? I've seen it before in one of my posts. Wierd satanic lookin' shit. Here's the quote stripped of the text you intended to put in there and Laughing mans original post. Quote it then look at it in BBCode and you'll see that some erratic code has gotten in there. <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 4.900000000000006px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43276023" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32761950" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_35789863" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_37492494" scrolling="no"></iframe>
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Post by griffith82 on Jul 2, 2018 1:34:14 GMT
What I will say however is that stating "TLJ was great" is not really a conversation starter. My only response to that is a shrug. On the other hand, if someone wants to point out something TLJ did particularly well, and explain why they think so, that might be something worthy of discussion.<iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 4.900000000000006px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_43276023" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_32761950" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_35789863" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="23.960000000000036" height="4.900000000000006" style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 4.9px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1121px; top: 155px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_37492494" scrolling="no"></iframe> Let's be honest for a moment, shall we? The REAL reason people defend this "film" (episode 8 or any other cinematic abortion which is less about filmmaking and more about finding a platform for misguided, juvenile agendas) and pretend it's good/clever/just what we need is for one of two reasons; either said person is on the spectrum, or they are a cowardly & naive individual. Why the strong language you ask? It is pretty necessary, & I'll expand on that statement. Anyone with any perspective can see fairly clearly what Ruin Johnson/K. Kennedy's agenda was with this middle part of the sequel trilogy. (Hint; it isn't actually clever subversion of expectations) That's right; 3rd wave FEMINISM. We need to establish something as more-or-less fact right out of the gate; Feminism is a great thing. It was necessary to get women out from under the oppressive thumb of men who were sadists and psychopaths. You'll notice I underlined the word "WAS", and this is no accident. The first & second waves to the movement were very beneficial to western society in general, and women specifically (of course). They legitimately couldn't vote or own property in the 19th century. There was a real meaning to the cliche "rule of thumb", which meant if your wife/daughter "got any ideas" a man, usually her husband/father could get away with BEATING her as long as the blunt object used was no bigger than HIS THUMB. Things were very bad for women... in the past. Now, in today's society the feminist movement is not quite the same thing. Of course some women are truly oppressed. Of course there are ALWAYS horrible things happening to good people, somewhere. However to say something along the lines of "modern women are oppressed" or "Kevin Spacey should get ten years in a Federal prison" is idiocy. The modern woman in western society has ALL that feminists of the early 20th century dreamed of & FOUGHT FOR. The 3rd wave feminist movement is a sham, perpetrated by spoiled college kids and angry "Tumblr lesbians", and it has even less direction or focus than leadership. 3rd wave Feminism is the social equivalent of "restless-leg-syndrome" I am aware that many movies have been made with political agendas woven throughout (including the Holy Trilogy). I am also aware that episode 8 DOES indeed have some redeeming qualities. However, to go to such lengths to execute beloved characters, and to banally pound away with tropes like Forced diversity or Strong Female leads is obviously a pander to the lowest common denominator and some of us will always see through it. It reeks of pathetic desperation, and more tragically dates a film that is supposed to feel somewhat timeless. My point is, if you say episode 8 is a great movie, ask yourself "Why?" What is it that's so great?? Which brings me to my point; people defending the Last Jedi are almost always younger, liberal to moderate and naive. They are cowards because they lack the fortitude to accept that they are willingly being manipulated by corporations, and they are naive because they lack experience/perspective or even worse, actively CHOOSE to ignore the obvious signs all around them. Either way, they need to see that not everyone is onboard the mindless Political-Correctness train, and (most importantly) it's okay if they question authority once in a while. It is okay to make up you own mind about things. Shocking, isn't it? Wow. That offended by women are you? You make me sad to be a man in this day and age.
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Post by mybudgee on Jul 2, 2018 1:35:47 GMT
griffith82: Don't be too upset, you're not a man... yet
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Post by Obadiah on Jul 2, 2018 1:45:15 GMT
What I will say however is that stating "TLJ was great" is not really a conversation starter. My only response to that is a shrug. On the other hand, if someone wants to point out something TLJ did particularly well, and explain why they think so, that might be something worthy of discussion.Let's be honest for a moment, shall we? The REAL reason people defend this "film" (episode 8 or any other cinematic abortion which is less about filmmaking and more about finding a platform for misguided, juvenile agendas) and pretend it's good/clever/just what we need is for one of two reasons; either said person is on the spectrum, or they are a cowardly & naive individual. Why the strong language you ask? It is pretty necessary, & I'll expand on that statement. Anyone with any perspective can see fairly clearly what Ruin Johnson/K. Kennedy's agenda was with this middle part of the sequel trilogy. (Hint; it isn't actually clever subversion of expectations) That's right; 3rd wave FEMINISM. We need to establish something as more-or-less fact right out of the gate; Feminism is a great thing. It was necessary to get women out from under the oppressive thumb of men who were sadists and psychopaths. You'll notice I underlined the word "WAS", and this is no accident. The first & second waves to the movement were very beneficial to western society in general, and women specifically (of course). They legitimately couldn't vote or own property in the 19th century. There was a real meaning to the cliche "rule of thumb", which meant if your wife/daughter "got any ideas" a man, usually her husband/father could get away with BEATING her as long as the blunt object used was no bigger than HIS THUMB. Things were very bad for women... in the past. Now, in today's society the feminist movement is not quite the same thing. Of course some women are truly oppressed. Of course there are ALWAYS horrible things happening to good people, somewhere. However to say something along the lines of "modern women are oppressed" or "Kevin Spacey should get ten years in a Federal prison" is idiocy. The modern woman in western society has ALL that feminists of the early 20th century dreamed of & FOUGHT FOR. The 3rd wave feminist movement is a sham, perpetrated by spoiled college kids and angry "Tumblr lesbians", and it has even less direction or focus than leadership. 3rd wave Feminism is the social equivalent of "restless-leg-syndrome" I am aware that many movies have been made with political agendas woven throughout (including the Holy Trilogy). I am also aware that episode 8 DOES indeed have some redeeming qualities. However, to go to such lengths to execute beloved characters, and to banally pound away with tropes like Forced diversity or Strong Female leads is obviously a pander to the lowest common denominator and some of us will always see through it. It reeks of pathetic desperation, and more tragically dates a film that is supposed to feel somewhat timeless. My point is, if you say episode 8 is a great movie, ask yourself "Why?" What is it that's so great?? Which brings me to my point; people defending the Last Jedi are almost always younger, liberal to moderate and naive. They are cowards because they lack the fortitude to accept that they are willingly being manipulated by corporations, and they are naive because they lack experience/perspective or even worse, actively CHOOSE to ignore the obvious signs all around them. Either way, they need to see that not everyone is onboard the mindless Political-Correctness train, and (most importantly) it's okay if they question authority once in a while. It is okay to make up you own mind about things. Shocking, isn't it? Dude, I don't know what it is that you are talking about. The reason I liked The Last Jedi is that I liked the characters, and for the most part it was an interesting and entertaining movie. I did not think Luke, Leia, or Han were destroyed in any way by these films. Sure, their lives didn't turn out as I'd hoped, but I found each of them to have grown in interesting and unpredictable ways. I liked the subverted expectations where several scenes were set up to be similar to the original trilogy, but worked out differently, sometimes with hilarious results. There are some issues with the plot, but for the most part the story worked - and "no" I don't need another video tediously explaining what is wrong with Luke's development, or Canto Bight, or the tone of the characters in the Millennium Falcon at the end. I REALLY don't know what Feminism has to do with the criticisms since, if you corrected the plot issues, you would still be left with a story with a bunch of strong female characters who mostly dominate the film. The fact that people keep bringing this up, makes me think they have issues with the Feminist movement in general (*shrug* which is fine by the way), and they're just projecting.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 2, 2018 4:43:42 GMT
Let's be honest for a moment, shall we? The REAL reason people defend this "film" (episode 8 or any other cinematic abortion which is less about filmmaking and more about finding a platform for misguided, juvenile agendas) and pretend it's good/clever/just what we need is for one of two reasons; either said person is on the spectrum, or they are a cowardly & naive individual. Why the strong language you ask? It is pretty necessary, & I'll expand on that statement. Anyone with any perspective can see fairly clearly what Ruin Johnson/K. Kennedy's agenda was with this middle part of the sequel trilogy. (Hint; it isn't actually clever subversion of expectations) That's right; 3rd wave FEMINISM. We need to establish something as more-or-less fact right out of the gate; Feminism is a great thing. It was necessary to get women out from under the oppressive thumb of men who were sadists and psychopaths. You'll notice I underlined the word "WAS", and this is no accident. The first & second waves to the movement were very beneficial to western society in general, and women specifically (of course). They legitimately couldn't vote or own property in the 19th century. There was a real meaning to the cliche "rule of thumb", which meant if your wife/daughter "got any ideas" a man, usually her husband/father could get away with BEATING her as long as the blunt object used was no bigger than HIS THUMB. Things were very bad for women... in the past. Now, in today's society the feminist movement is not quite the same thing. Of course some women are truly oppressed. Of course there are ALWAYS horrible things happening to good people, somewhere. However to say something along the lines of "modern women are oppressed" or "Kevin Spacey should get ten years in a Federal prison" is idiocy. The modern woman in western society has ALL that feminists of the early 20th century dreamed of & FOUGHT FOR. The 3rd wave feminist movement is a sham, perpetrated by spoiled college kids and angry "Tumblr lesbians", and it has even less direction or focus than leadership. 3rd wave Feminism is the social equivalent of "restless-leg-syndrome" I am aware that many movies have been made with political agendas woven throughout (including the Holy Trilogy). I am also aware that episode 8 DOES indeed have some redeeming qualities. However, to go to such lengths to execute beloved characters, and to banally pound away with tropes like Forced diversity or Strong Female leads is obviously a pander to the lowest common denominator and some of us will always see through it. It reeks of pathetic desperation, and more tragically dates a film that is supposed to feel somewhat timeless. My point is, if you say episode 8 is a great movie, ask yourself "Why?" What is it that's so great?? Which brings me to my point; people defending the Last Jedi are almost always younger, liberal to moderate and naive. They are cowards because they lack the fortitude to accept that they are willingly being manipulated by corporations, and they are naive because they lack experience/perspective or even worse, actively CHOOSE to ignore the obvious signs all around them. Either way, they need to see that not everyone is onboard the mindless Political-Correctness train, and (most importantly) it's okay if they question authority once in a while. It is okay to make up you own mind about things. Shocking, isn't it? Dude, I don't know what it is that you are talking about. The reason I liked The Last Jedi is that I liked the characters, and for the most part it was an interesting and entertaining movie. I did not think Luke, Leia, or Han were destroyed in any way by these films. Sure, their lives didn't turn out as I'd hoped, but I found each of them to have grown in interesting and unpredictable ways. I liked the subverted expectations where several scenes were set up to be similar to the original trilogy, but worked out differently, sometimes with hilarious results. There are some issues with the plot, but for the most part the story worked - and "no" I don't need another video tediously explaining what is wrong with Luke's development, or Canto Bight, or the tone of the characters in the Millennium Falcon at the end. I REALLY don't know what Feminism has to do with the criticisms since, if you corrected the plot issues, you would still be left with a story with a bunch of strong female characters who mostly dominate the film. The fact that people keep bringing this up, makes me think they have issues with the Feminist movement in general (*shrug* which is fine by the way), and they're just projecting. It actually amazes me that people say that TLJ is a feminist movie.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2018 7:02:49 GMT
That's right; 3rd wave FEMINISM. We need to establish something as more-or-less fact right out of the gate; Feminism is a great thing. It was necessary to get women out from under the oppressive thumb of men who were sadists and psychopaths. You'll notice I underlined the word "WAS", and this is no accident. The first & second waves to the movement were very beneficial to western society in general, and women specifically (of course). They legitimately couldn't vote or own property in the 19th century. There was a real meaning to the cliche "rule of thumb", which meant if your wife/daughter "got any ideas" a man, usually her husband/father could get away with BEATING her as long as the blunt object used was no bigger than HIS THUMB. Things were very bad for women... in the past. Now, in today's society the feminist movement is not quite the same thing. Of course some women are truly oppressed. Of course there are ALWAYS horrible things happening to good people, somewhere. However to say something along the lines of "modern women are oppressed" or "Kevin Spacey should get ten years in a Federal prison" is idiocy. The modern woman in western society has ALL that feminists of the early 20th century dreamed of & FOUGHT FOR. The 3rd wave feminist movement is a sham, perpetrated by spoiled college kids and angry "Tumblr lesbians", and it has even less direction or focus than leadership. 3rd wave Feminism is the social equivalent of "restless-leg-syndrome" Eh, there's more than one thing about wrong about it. Don't bring feminism into it, please. (not because im offended bout it or anything, I just don't want the conversation to derail which it is currently doing by talking about it!) The more you talk about, as my mum says, the more that you'll be feeding into the nonsense, don't be one of those people.
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