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Post by Pounce de León on Sept 21, 2018 11:16:32 GMT
3. The Last Jedi.4. Revenge of the Sith. 5. Empire Strikes Back. It's what happens when you let RNG rank lists.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2018 12:34:57 GMT
1. Return of the Jedi. 2. The Force Awakens. 3. The Last Jedi. 4. Revenge of the Sith. 5. Empire Strikes Back. 6. Rogue One. 7. A New Hope. 8. Phantom Menace 9. Attack of the Clones. Tis all in good fun
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Post by masterwarderz on Sept 21, 2018 14:08:17 GMT
Bob Iger (CEO of Disney) recently said in a statement that they are going to be slowing down the release of Star Wars films In the wake of the failure of Solo aye, its just as was predicted ages ago.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 21, 2018 19:28:24 GMT
Bob Iger (CEO of Disney) recently said in a statement that they are going to be slowing down the release of Star Wars films In the wake of the failure of Solo aye, its just as was predicted ages ago.
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Post by House Targaryen on Sept 22, 2018 1:16:08 GMT
Solo was a failure? Didn't know that. I didn't have a problem with it. And I was one of those who was skeptical about it especially their casting of Han before it came out. But the actor did a decent job
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Post by masterwarderz on Sept 22, 2018 1:43:05 GMT
Solo was a failure? Didn't know that. I didn't have a problem with it. And I was one of those who was skeptical about it especially their casting of Han before it came out. But the actor did a decent job Financially? It was a flop.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 22, 2018 7:52:05 GMT
Solo was a failure? Didn't know that. I didn't have a problem with it. And I was one of those who was skeptical about it especially their casting of Han before it came out. But the actor did a decent job To a huge corporation the difference between a small loss & a small profit is not much, despite the fact that from a logical standpoint one is TECHNICALLY a success
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Post by river82 on Sept 22, 2018 7:55:28 GMT
It didn't help that Solo was the most expensive Star Wars movie to make due to production issues. Really, these type of spin offs should be lower budget, lower profit affairs, but they screwed that up with the mess that happened behind the scenes.
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Post by Serza on Sept 22, 2018 16:00:05 GMT
I was playing Mandalorians in Stellaris, and a question happened upon me, for those who actively watched The Clone Wars.
Was Duchess Satine a Mand'alor, or not? I mean, I'd be surprised if she WERE a Mand'alor, but it sounds like she's the leader of Manda'yaim at least.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 22, 2018 17:49:21 GMT
Regardless, I wouldn't call myself a fanboy. While the new movies definitely have good things in them (in my opinion), there's no way I would consider them superior to the original Star Wars movie. I always look forward to the next Star Wars movie because I like to see what new ideas they can come up with (whether they work or not is up to debate). Superior? No but just as good imo. A few exceptions: Episode 8 Fucked the lore in the following ways: hyperdrives as weapons, the dark side having feelings/sensibility, the 1st order being infallible/having unlimited resources, the Resistance being dumb Fucks because they're dummies and that's all the explanation we get, Force Ghosts can affect the real world anytime they want but never have because reasons, Having ovaries equals automatic Force-God-mode, being an incredibly powerful DARK side user doesn't protect you from asinine Criss Angel sleight-of-hand magic tricks, "we fight for what we love" because true heroic sacrifice isn't in this season, also if you are even a bit concerned about someone being tempted by the Dark side the only realistic option is to sneak into their bedroom & ignite your loud saber and then just stand there hesitating. This many glaring mistakes/intentional fuckery a good film does NOT make. Sorry
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 22, 2018 18:58:42 GMT
Episode 8 Fucked the lore in the following ways: hyperdrives as weapons, the dark side having feelings/sensibility, the 1st order being infallible/having unlimited resources, the Resistance being dumb Fucks because they're dummies and that's all the explanation we get, Force Ghosts can affect the real world anytime they want but never have because reasons, Having ovaries equals automatic Force-God-mode, being an incredibly powerful DARK side user doesn't protect you from asinine Criss Angel sleight-of-hand magic tricks, "we fight for what we love" because true heroic sacrifice isn't in this season, also if you are even a bit concerned about someone being tempted by the Dark side the only realistic option is to sneak into their bedroom & ignite your loud saber and then just stand there hesitating. This many glaring mistakes/intentional fuckery a good film does NOT make. Sorry Oh boy, I'm going try and break all this down: - For starters, the hyperdrive as a weapon thing was kind of established in the lore. Basically, there was a throwaway line in a New Hope in which Solo said that entering hyperspeed with the wrong coordinates could result in quote, "fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick." The movie basically shows what would happen if someone were to intentionally launch themselves at an object in hyperspace, which frankly would be pretty destructive. - They never said the dark side had feelings or sensibilities, that was specifically Kylo Ren. The whole point of the sequel movies was to show that unlike Darth Vader (who for the most part was lost to the darkness until Luke's appeal) Kylo Ren hasn't fully embraced the Dark Side yet due to his conflicting emotions. This is a case of just generalization than understanding the lore. - Force Ghosts can sort of interact with the real world, considering how Return of the Jedi had Obi-Wan sitting on a log. My best guess is that since the island Yoda was on was an area superpowerful in the force, he was able to connect to the force and do things like summon lightning. As to why no other Jedis did it before? Becoming a Force Ghost actually requires proper training to fully manifest, and only the most powerful can do it. And since a large rule for the Jedi is not interfere with the balance of the force, a force ghost can't just summon things willy-nilly like that. - Rey's affinity with the force had nothing to do with her being a woman. There have been female Jedi's in Star Wars history, many quite powerful in the force. Rey just happened to be one of the most powerful ones, and as far as we know, the only other Jedi in the galaxy right now. I do find her being able to do the force quickly a little rushed, but I don't get angry over it. It's just a minor nitpick honestly. - The sleight of hand thing was arguably the dumbest part of the movie. I agree a hundred percent. - Also, agree. If anything, Finn's sacrifice at the end of Last Jedi would have been meaningful. - The point of that scene was that yes, it was a mistake. A mistake that ended up with Luke's academy destroyed and a bunch of people slaughtered. That's the primary reason Luke refuses to connect to the force anymore, because that one mistake lead to so much death and devastation. I get why people get irritated because we now live in a world where we're taught that making mistakes is okay as long as you learn, but if you were to say suddenly get into a major car accident that ended up killing people, I'm pretty sure you would be hesitant to get into a car again so soon after that. The point is, a lot of these feel more like general nitpicks than real criticism. I don't claim to be a Star Wars expert, but most of these you listed I never found lore breaking. I personally thought most, not all, fit the galaxy of Star Wars considering the stuff I have seen and read in the past.
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Post by mybudgee on Sept 22, 2018 19:04:59 GMT
Episode 8 Fucked the lore in the following ways: hyperdrives as weapons, the dark side having feelings/sensibility, the 1st order being infallible/having unlimited resources, the Resistance being dumb Fucks because they're dummies and that's all the explanation we get, Force Ghosts can affect the real world anytime they want but never have because reasons, Having ovaries equals automatic Force-God-mode, being an incredibly powerful DARK side user doesn't protect you from asinine Criss Angel sleight-of-hand magic tricks, "we fight for what we love" because true heroic sacrifice isn't in this season, also if you are even a bit concerned about someone being tempted by the Dark side the only realistic option is to sneak into their bedroom & ignite your loud saber and then just stand there hesitating. This many glaring mistakes/intentional fuckery a good film does NOT make. Sorry Oh boy, I'm going try and break all this down: - The sleight of hand thing was arguably the dumbest part of the movie. I agree a hundred percent. - Also, agree. If anything, Finn's sacrifice at the end of Last Jedi would have been meaningful. - The point of that scene was that yes, it was a mistake. The point is, a lot of these feel more like general nitpicks than real criticism. I don't claim to be a Star Wars expert, but most of these you listed I never found lore breaking. the plural of Jedi is Jedi FYI
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 22, 2018 19:11:30 GMT
Oh boy, I'm going try and break all this down: - The sleight of hand thing was arguably the dumbest part of the movie. I agree a hundred percent. - Also, agree. If anything, Finn's sacrifice at the end of Last Jedi would have been meaningful. - The point of that scene was that yes, it was a mistake. The point is, a lot of these feel more like general nitpicks than real criticism. I don't claim to be a Star Wars expert, but most of these you listed I never found lore breaking. the plural of Jedi is Jedi FYI ... Did you just take my CONSTRUCTIVE, HONEST observations/opinions and edited them to fit YOUR thoughts!? I think there's a word for that... It's called hearsay!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2018 20:42:50 GMT
- Force Ghosts can sort of interact with the real world, considering how Return of the Jedi had Obi-Wan sitting on a log. My best guess is that since the island Yoda was on was an area superpowerful in the force, he was able to connect to the force and do things like summon lightning. As to why no other Jedis did it before? Becoming a Force Ghost actually requires proper training to fully manifest, and only the most powerful can do it. And since a large rule for the Jedi is not interfere with the balance of the force, a force ghost can't just summon things willy-nilly like that. To add to this point, as I said before Force Ghosts are an incredibly new thing among the Jedi relatively speaking. In the canon there are only five Jedi who could do it: Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, and now Luke. Each generation has improved on it, for example Qui-Gon couldn't create a physical shape and instead could only manifest as a cluster of lights. Obi-Wan and Anakin could only manifest as their physical selves but not really interact with the world other than that, other than minor things like Obi-Wan sitting on a log. Yoda while of that generation had more time to practice and learned directly from the Sisters as well as lived a quarter century on a planet extremely strong in the Force so could interact more directly like with the lightning bolt and thunking Luke on the head. Finally Luke was the most powerful of it since he learned from the previous generation, lived even longer on another planet extremely powerful in the Force, and has Skywalker blood so is naturally very powerful in it(he is the actual Chosen One after all) so it makes sense he could do what he did at the end of The Last Jedi. Basically, can't really complain about the Force Ghosts since it is an evolving power that is still mostly unknown in the canon.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 22, 2018 20:45:31 GMT
- Force Ghosts can sort of interact with the real world, considering how Return of the Jedi had Obi-Wan sitting on a log. My best guess is that since the island Yoda was on was an area superpowerful in the force, he was able to connect to the force and do things like summon lightning. As to why no other Jedis did it before? Becoming a Force Ghost actually requires proper training to fully manifest, and only the most powerful can do it. And since a large rule for the Jedi is not interfere with the balance of the force, a force ghost can't just summon things willy-nilly like that. To add to this point, as I said before Force Ghosts are an incredibly new thing among the Jedi relatively speaking. In the canon there are only five Jedi who could do it: Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, and now Luke. Each generation has improved on it, for example Qui-Gon couldn't create a physical shape and instead could only manifest as a cluster of lights. Obi-Wan and Anakin could only manifest as their physical selves but not really interact with the world other than that, other than minor things like Obi-Wan sitting on a log. Yoda while of that generation had more time to practice and learned directly from the Sisters as well as lived a quarter century on a planet extremely strong in the Force so could interact more directly like with the lightning bolt and thunking Luke on the head. Finally Luke was the most powerful of it since he learned from the previous generation, lived even longer on another planet extremely powerful in the Force, and has Skywalker blood so is naturally very powerful in it(he is the actual Chosen One after all) so it makes sense he could do what he did at the end of The Last Jedi. Basically, can't really complain about the Force Ghosts since it is an evolving power that is still mostly unknown in the canon. Inventing your own canon as you go? This post is simply mostly untrue and fanfiction.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2018 20:50:24 GMT
To add to this point, as I said before Force Ghosts are an incredibly new thing among the Jedi relatively speaking. In the canon there are only five Jedi who could do it: Qui-Gon, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Anakin, and now Luke. Each generation has improved on it, for example Qui-Gon couldn't create a physical shape and instead could only manifest as a cluster of lights. Obi-Wan and Anakin could only manifest as their physical selves but not really interact with the world other than that, other than minor things like Obi-Wan sitting on a log. Yoda while of that generation had more time to practice and learned directly from the Sisters as well as lived a quarter century on a planet extremely strong in the Force so could interact more directly like with the lightning bolt and thunking Luke on the head. Finally Luke was the most powerful of it since he learned from the previous generation, lived even longer on another planet extremely powerful in the Force, and has Skywalker blood so is naturally very powerful in it(he is the actual Chosen One after all) so it makes sense he could do what he did at the end of The Last Jedi. Basically, can't really complain about the Force Ghosts since it is an evolving power that is still mostly unknown in the canon. Inventing your own canon as you go? This post is simply mostly untrue and fanfiction. Where is my statement that "In the canon Force Ghosts are a new and evolving power" is it untrue and fanfiction? Sure, some of my post is speculation but the majority of it including that point is factually correct. Unless there is some new book or something that says otherwise. If so please share.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 22, 2018 21:08:57 GMT
Inventing your own canon as you go? This post is simply mostly untrue and fanfiction. Where is my statement that "In the canon Force Ghosts are a new and evolving power" is it untrue and fanfiction? Sure, some of my post is speculation but the majority of it including that point is factually correct. Unless there is some new book or something that says otherwise. If so please share. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_ghostIn the old EU, it was an ancient technique, but was largely forgotten until Qui-Gonn rediscovered it.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 22, 2018 21:14:59 GMT
Qu Rahn spoke to Kyle Katarn.
Something about blue milk runs.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2018 21:16:13 GMT
Where is my statement that "In the canon Force Ghosts are a new and evolving power" is it untrue and fanfiction? Sure, some of my post is speculation but the majority of it including that point is factually correct. Unless there is some new book or something that says otherwise. If so please share. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Force_ghostIn the old EU, it was an ancient technique, but was largely forgotten until Qui-Gonn rediscovered it. That's not canon anymore. I specified as in the canon.
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Post by Iakus on Sept 22, 2018 21:21:37 GMT
That's not canon anymore. I specified as in the canon. The new canon is Disney fanfiction.
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Sept 22, 2018 21:22:37 GMT
That's not canon anymore. I specified as in the canon. It was canon, and was established well before Qui-Gonn or Super Saiyan Yodasan. That's a pretty weak fortress to chose and defend.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Sept 22, 2018 21:27:38 GMT
If Mickey wants to use Force Ghosts as his personal Eagles, that's his business.
It has nothing to do with it being legitimate on any level, though.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 22, 2018 21:46:39 GMT
Ah, so you guys are doing the “I reject your reality and substitute my own” thing.
Kind of destroys any chance of actual discussions, but whatever.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Sept 22, 2018 21:53:50 GMT
Ah, so you guys are doing the “I reject your reality and substitute my own” thing. Kind of destroys any chance of actual discussions, but whatever. Technically Mickey's doing that, though.
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