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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 6, 2016 17:37:53 GMT
Because men like visual attractiveness and women search for other qualities? I guess we'll never know, some secrets should be never uncovered. So... in others words, men are inherently shallow, and women aren't? Alright then, Bioware, here's how to focus your resources from now on: For the female LIs just focus on making them as hot as possible. And then funnel all your best writing and character building into the guys. They can look however. Works for me (In case it's not obvious, this post is a joke.) Don't forget to make the guys funny... you can look like Quasi Modo, as long as you're funny...
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Post by pixiqui on Dec 6, 2016 18:30:25 GMT
Here we go again....
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Dec 6, 2016 22:53:32 GMT
So... in others words, men are inherently shallow, and women aren't? Alright then, Bioware, here's how to focus your resources from now on: For the female LIs just focus on making them as hot as possible. And then funnel all your best writing and character building into the guys. They can look however. Works for me (In case it's not obvious, this post is a joke.) Don't forget to make the guys funny... you can look like Quasi Modo, as long as you're funny... I'm offended! (A bit of pathos and a really nice voice is also needed to make the perfect hotness cake. WHY WON'T YOU LOVE ME JOKER)
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Post by dalinne on Dec 6, 2016 22:53:55 GMT
Thanks, Jesus. In Aria regard, if you consider a kiss she gives you in a moment with no consequences whatsover a romance, well... I... don't know how to tell you but... that is not a romance. That's barely a nod to the players. Samara has special romance content in Citadel DLC and its roots comes from ME2 rejecting romance. It's well established as a romance option in ME3 (even when some people don't think so if you don't obtain a trophy for that). Aria is just a kiss and the kiss is simply not mentioned again. I'm so qualified to speak on behalf of hetero men the same way you are so qualified to speak on behalf of Deadpool (he is funny Goddamit!! TRY TO BE FUNNY! I DARE YOU! COME ON! I BELIEVE IN YOU SON!!!)Reading comprehension skills -- try to use them. I dare you! Come on I believe in you, whatever you're supposed to be! Now I know why your posts are are so regrettable. "Some people" -- did I say Deadpool? Nope. But Deadpool loves seeing you bend yourself out of shape to argue points Deadpool has no stake in. Squirrel! Deadpool has your red herring right here. *grabs Deadpool* Now go fetch. Wow, Dalinne. What time did YOU go to bed last night, hmm? Judging from your timestamp, looks like Deadpool was on your mind before your head hit that pillow. Good to see Deadpool can satisfy you in ways your boyfriend can't or won't, baby. Report to the ship immediately. No, wait. Don't. I don't know. What time is it? Which year am I now? Whatevs, on a more "serious" note ( ) : if you don't feel like answer my "Aria is not a romance" or talk about "The women are ugly conspiracy theories" you can simply ignore me. We are endangering the quality of this thread's purpose. (PD: don't be so interested in my boyfriend. He is taken )
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2016 23:42:52 GMT
Reading comprehension skills -- try to use them. I dare you! Come on I believe in you, whatever you're supposed to be! Now I know why your posts are are so regrettable. "Some people" -- did I say Deadpool? Nope. But Deadpool loves seeing you bend yourself out of shape to argue points Deadpool has no stake in. Squirrel! Deadpool has your red herring right here. *grabs Deadpool* Now go fetch. Wow, Dalinne. What time did YOU go to bed last night, hmm? Judging from your timestamp, looks like Deadpool was on your mind before your head hit that pillow. Good to see Deadpool can satisfy you in ways your boyfriend can't or won't, baby. Report to the ship immediately. No, wait. Don't. I don't know. What time is it? Which year am I now?Whatevs, on a more "serious" note ( ) : if you don't feel like answer my "Aria is not a romance" or talk about "The women are ugly conspiracy theories" you can simply ignore me. We are endangering the quality of this thread's purpose. (PD: don't be so interested in my boyfriend. He is taken ) One good turn deserves another, but don't worry, cupcake. Nobody's going to mock your beard. And by the way, you're not a year. But if you were, I'd guess 1933.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 3:20:16 GMT
I don't want to be part in this fight, but I find Leliana, Josephine and Cass very pretty, also Morrigan Well, to each their own I guess..
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Post by jediguardian on Dec 7, 2016 9:09:36 GMT
I will answer this thread as a Gay Man.
For two people that OP refer to, Sara look fine... she look like teenager with a bit bad ass. The other... look not good I have to admit.
BUT ugly? Both of them don't deserve this word. They're look OK, fine, even attractive for some people (not me obvioulsy).
Two thing that I want to remind OP. 1) we can customize Sara's face, why you have to worry. 2) we just see only 2 female haman, It's too soon to complain.
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 7, 2016 9:16:32 GMT
I will answer this thread as a Gay Man. For two people that OP refer to, Sara look fine... she look like teenager with a bit bad ass. The other... look not good I have to admit. BUT ugly? Both of them don't deserve this word. They're look OK, fine, even attractive for some people (not me obvioulsy). Two thing that I want to remind OP. 1) we can customize Sara's face, why you have to worry. 2) we just see only 2 female haman, It's too soon to complain. But from what I have read in this thread, gay, lesbians and female people are not straight males so your opinion are not valid. But then again, straight male that do not agree (like me) are in the minority (apparently) and thus not valid either. But this thread is a joke anyway.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 7, 2016 10:40:50 GMT
I will answer this thread as a Gay Man. For two people that OP refer to, Sara look fine... she look like teenager with a bit bad ass. The other... look not good I have to admit. BUT ugly? Both of them don't deserve this word. They're look OK, fine, even attractive for some people (not me obvioulsy). Two thing that I want to remind OP. 1) we can customize Sara's face, why you have to worry. 2) we just see only 2 female haman, It's too soon to complain. But from what I have read in this thread, gay, lesbians and female people are not straight males so your opinion are not valid. But then again, straight male that do not agree (like me) are in the minority (apparently) and thus not valid either. But this thread is a joke anyway. I think it's more along the lines of: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or maybe: "Pretty is pretty, but only ugly can be beautiful"? There has to be a moral in here some where...
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 7, 2016 10:53:28 GMT
But from what I have read in this thread, gay, lesbians and female people are not straight males so your opinion are not valid. But then again, straight male that do not agree (like me) are in the minority (apparently) and thus not valid either. But this thread is a joke anyway. I think it's more along the lines of: "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" or maybe: "Pretty is pretty, but only ugly can be beautiful"? There has to be a Joke in here some where... FTFY.
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Post by wright1978 on Dec 7, 2016 10:57:05 GMT
I will answer this thread as a Gay Man. For two people that OP refer to, Sara look fine... she look like teenager with a bit bad ass. The other... look not good I have to admit. BUT ugly? Both of them don't deserve this word. They're look OK, fine, even attractive for some people (not me obvioulsy). Two thing that I want to remind OP. 1) we can customize Sara's face, why you have to worry. 2) we just see only 2 female haman, It's too soon to complain. I'd agree that the word ugly is an overreaction. I don't think Sara particularly looks good but she's ignorable/customisable. The whole thread may very well end up feeling like a knee jerk reaction to incomplete info when hopefully conventional beautiful female characters also appear but that's sort of the case with much of pre-launch. I share a little of the fear.
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Post by ulmanicator on Dec 7, 2016 12:45:25 GMT
I will answer this thread as a Gay Man. For two people that OP refer to, Sara look fine... she look like teenager with a bit bad ass. The other... look not good I have to admit. BUT ugly? Both of them don't deserve this word. They're look OK, fine, even attractive for some people (not me obvioulsy). Two thing that I want to remind OP. 1) we can customize Sara's face, why you have to worry. 2) we just see only 2 female haman, It's too soon to complain. I'd agree that the word ugly is an overreaction. I don't think Sara particularly looks good but she's ignorable/customisable. The whole thread may very well end up feeling like a knee jerk reaction to incomplete info when hopefully conventional beautiful female characters also appear but that's sort of the case with much of pre-launch. I share a little of the fear. I think she looks pretty good here. Her appearence on the OP's picture, on the other hand, is, well, bad. Attachments:
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 7, 2016 12:50:21 GMT
I'd agree that the word ugly is an overreaction. I don't think Sara particularly looks good but she's ignorable/customisable. The whole thread may very well end up feeling like a knee jerk reaction to incomplete info when hopefully conventional beautiful female characters also appear but that's sort of the case with much of pre-launch. I share a little of the fear. I think she looks pretty good here. Her appearence on the OP's picture, on the other hand, is, well, bad. I'd say it's about nose and uncanny face animations. When you look at her close up and from certain angle you realize you'd rather not.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 13:49:11 GMT
It's the unbalanced nose and the shadows around her eyes. When they were making Sara's head it seem that they went really close to the voice actress face, but it did not transfer that well. I guess just like some people are photogenic, some faces render better in 3D than others. Scott's VA's face looks like it was made more handsome by the process, like a retouched black-and-white photo. TBH, I am a bit spooked that it's actors' faces, I'd rather have something from the Character Creator, even at a loss of realism. Funny though that BioWARE markets so different from the Asian MMOs that always slap the pretty girl NPCs and PCs on their promo materials as early as possible. Bio is really tight with info/promos.
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Post by readher on Dec 7, 2016 16:58:21 GMT
It's the unbalanced nose and the shadows around her eyes. When they were making Sara's head it seem that they went really close to the voice actress face, but it did not transfer that well. I guess just like some people are photogenic, some faces render better in 3D than others. Scott's VA's face looks like it was made more handsome by the process, like a retouched black-and-white photo. TBH, I am a bit spooked that it's actors' faces, I'd rather have something from the Character Creator, even at a loss of realism. Funny though that BioWARE markets so different from the Asian MMOs that always slap the pretty girl NPCs and PCs on their promo materials as early as possible. Bio is really tight with info/promos. Who would've thought that a western company making western single-player RPGs is using different marketing technique than asian developers making MMOs /s . Almost every asian MMO is P2W and gameplay is rarely what attracts people to them. They appeal by skimpy clothing for females and pretty characters, locking "best" clothing behind paywall and thus generating tons of money. They're basically cash grabs and nothing more. It's the major difference between western and asian MMO market, where in the former any sort of P2W mechanic is universally bashed, while the latter actually expects such mechanics to be in the game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 17:56:12 GMT
Not necessarily. BioWARE used to feature attractive females prominently on the box covers as well, like Bastilla and Wu or Ling, and I loved that they shared the promotional artwork a lot more back then. BnS, in additions to the wardrobe and boobs was a joy to play because of the amazing combat and landscape art. SWTOR has just married P2P with the P2W in not a good way (and so did WoW, so far as I can gather), and there are more players on the Revelation boards that are raving about the variety and challenge of the content than the outfits, etc, etc, etc. The myth of the Western games being a bonanza of the equality is imo just a myth. There are no free entertainment, and, tbh, paying the musician is the right thing to do.
But, whatever, I know you will just scream you are right because you are right, and everyone else is irrelevant.
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Post by readher on Dec 7, 2016 18:39:33 GMT
Not necessarily. BioWARE used to feature attractive females prominently on the box covers as well, like Bastilla and Wu or Ling, and I loved that they shared the promotional artwork a lot more back then. BnS, in additions to the wardrobe and boobs was a joy to play because of the amazing combat and landscape art. SWTOR has just married P2P with the P2W in not a good way (and so did WoW, so far as I can gather), and there are more players on the Revelation boards that are raving about the variety and challenge of the content than the outfits, etc, etc, etc. The myth of the Western games being a bonanza of the equality is imo just a myth. There are no free entertainment, and, tbh, paying the musician is the right thing to do. But, whatever, I know you will just scream you are right because you are right, and everyone else is irrelevant. Yes, BioWare featured attractive females, but the thing is those games had other appeal too - story, gameplay, setting, depth, whatever. Asian MMOs on the other hand don't have any of that. I don't play WoW so I can't comment on that, but SWTOR is hardly P2W. P2P is nothing bad, but SWTOR is F2P actually. Subscription is cheap and gives you everything you need to be competitive. Everything on CC is either obtainable by being sub or cosmetic. Hardly P2W elements. The fact that the game lacks any endgame content is another problem though. They suck at the MMO part, but because of how much money they put into the game they have to milk it some more, so they release single-player story content that you can finish in few hours and you're left with a pointless MMO for another few months. And it's so nice that you put a label on me based on ONE topic where I could provide valid arguments as opposed to the other side. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, doesn't mean all of them are valid. You've got to prove that you're opinion is valid somehow and I presented a lot of evidence backing mine. On the topic of covers, I'm surprised you didn't mention Miranda. She was quite prominent on the cover and unlike Bastilla she wasn't key to the story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2016 21:47:39 GMT
I think that the women in the trailer are pretty Also customizable character helmets for the rest of the team Problem solved if you dont like how they look
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Post by Natashina on Dec 7, 2016 22:06:21 GMT
Edit: If I'm speaking as a mod, it'll be bolded and the words <puts on mod hat> will be on there. Otherwise you can assume I'm offering my opinions as a player and poster. Yep, defintely getting flashbacks here. --OP starts a thread complaining about female characters being ugly. --Shows how bad a default player character is. --Most of the rest disagree. --Starts using terms like "SJW" and feminist for the culprits. --Puts up a picture of an "ugly" companion. --Someone sees that picture and tells the other person that character X is hot. --Someone starts using blanket terms like "all straight men." --Using the least flattering picture of the female character to "prove" their point. --The majority of the thread disagrees with varying degrees of politeness. --The point was made that most straight women don't care about looks of the male LIs as much. --Having hot or not characters is "realistic." --It's pointed out that the game isn't finished yet. --A few complain that the female characters are ugly. --Most of the rest disagree. --Restart from the beginning. We really are the new BSN. It almost feels like late 2013 and we're talking about Dragon Age. What's hilarous to me is that most of these kinds of threads for DA:I went away by mid-2015. By then players were more busy playing and critizing the actual game. I also find it amusing to see some of the same posters from the BioWare forums that were stating that "blondes are against the lore," and "only SJWs want more minority preset faces" going, "It's a sci-fi. We don't have to worry about 'realism.'" Stay true, BSN. To each their own for the companions. However, whining about the default character's appearance only makes someone sound very immature. I can understand animation issues for sure. I know some of them tend to make it into the main game. I've seen a few myself, like that WTF jerky animation when Morrigan is coming down the stairs during the Ball (DA:I.) The facial animation here looks like it needs some work. But complaining about a default face for the player character? C'mon, you can change that later. It sounds silly to complain too much about Sara. It's the same engine as DA:I so I'd assume that a lot of the features are going to look like that. YMMV but I have been able to make some very lovely characters in DA:I. Anyway, carry on folks. <puts on mod hat> You guys are doing a good job overall at keeping this civil. I appreciate it and the other mods do too.
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Post by readher on Dec 7, 2016 22:39:14 GMT
The discussion about Sara went away after few posts though. It isn't the main concern in this thread anymore. I don't see the problem with her as well considering you can change her appearance (aside from FUBAR animations). The concern is that female LIs will once again be way off the traditionally attractive mark. Considering what we had in DA:I and what we've seen so far in Andromeda we have all the reasons to be concerned on how Cora will look, which will probably be the only fully developed human female romance in the game.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 7, 2016 22:43:02 GMT
The discussion about Sara went away after few posts though. It isn't the main concern in this thread anymore. I don't see the problem with her as well considering you can change her appearance (aside from FUBAR animations). The concern is that female LIs will once again be way off the traditionally attractive mark. Considering what we had in DA:I and what we've seen so far in Andromeda we have all the reasons to be concerned on how Cora will look, which will probably be the only fully developed human female romance in the game. 1)we saw two aliens and a possibly minor npcs 2)not really. They said this game has more romances then before. It's quite possible we'll get another female human full romance
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Post by luzarius on Dec 8, 2016 3:29:10 GMT
This is how I envisioned Ryder would look: That completely captures my imagination.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 8, 2016 3:30:54 GMT
This is how I envisioned Ryder would look: *snip* That completely captures my imagination. Wow, we sure came far graphically... look at the details!
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 8, 2016 12:09:55 GMT
This is how I envisioned Ryder would look: *snip* That completely captures my imagination. Wow, we sure came far graphically... look at the details! Yep, almost looks good enough to be a photo... On topic - I'd like to see images of default (customizable) female protagonists from other games, so that we can actually compare like with like...
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