'Ugly characters?' thread

There's also a difference between a designed default: From Dragon Age 2 or Mass Effect 3, and
a default used for marketing, Male and Female 'Face One' were used in DAI without being a 'specially made' default.

You know it's bad when Bastilla with her blocky face seems more attractive than females in a 2016 game.

True, but you might remember the "criticism" BW got over "dat ass"... much has changed at the company since then.

Also: In the past, a company could get away with having "imperfect" character models, because of technical limitations, but in this generation, you gotta expect some raised eyebrows if you - apparently deliberately - toning down the beauty standards set by the entertainment industry.

Tell that to certain "feminist culture critics"...

Sure, not all those criticisms where totally unfounded... but I think BW reacted a bit to well to them.

No one says anything about ME2 or ME3. All the concern is based on DA:I and what we've seen so far of ME:A and the concern is valid. No one was saying that women in ME2 or ME3 were ugly. That changed immensly with DA:I and so far nothing is indicating that it will change in ME:A. If the company's previous game had a problem and all the footage we've seen so far indicates that it will be present in their newsest game as well, there's absolutely no reason why I should give them benefit of doubt. They have to prove me wrong by showing actually attractive females in their game.

Your "almost wish" is exactly why so many people are calling to boycott BW and their games and call their fans SJWs. Glad you're not doing anyyhing to change that.

I'll say it again, the standard we demand is that the females are attractive at all. They don't have to be models, just don't make them all ugly and short haired. If a game released in 2003 could make attractive faces then one releasing 2017 should sure as hell be able to do it too. I see tens of women I consider attractive every fucking day, yet in whole DA:I and what we've seen so far in ME:A I didn't find one.

Yea, 'cause that is really helping anything... what it does, though, is fueling the narrative that critics of so called "over-sexualization of woman in games" really just want to bitch about something they them self don't even care about, for the sole reason to "stick it to the evil straight male"... or to make money of off petulant children that have convinced them self that everything wrong in their life comes from boys liking to look a beautiful girls... both are equally possible.

1)I don't have time to find every threads with full of post about how characters in ME2-ME3 were ugly or not attractive, and I'm not even talking of DA2 were every female companions except Bethany was heavily criticized for her looks, so let's agree to disagree. The fact that they were less doesn't mean there weren't. 

2)The shown basically nothing. Aside of her facial animations Sara isn't that different in terms of attractiveness compared to femshep in the first two, which wasn't really beautiful (for me) so it's not that different as a situation. Peebee (in her last appearance) is attractive, regardless of her personality. Vetra is a turian. Sloan is possibly a minor npcs who often looked plain.

I do agree on being cautious and concerned as a general rule, but if it's strictly based on what we saw, I think it's a bit of an ovvereaction.

And to be clear, I'm hoping Cora looks beautiful.

The person I first quoted said that they started making women more, Quote:

"I wouldn't say they're flat out "ugly" or "hideous" (drama queen much?), but it's so blatantly obvious the women in recent Bioware games are being made to appear much more average/plain looking and less feminine and/or sexualized than a decade ago. They're definitely toning down the physical attractiveness to male players."

As ME2 was released around 2010 that makes it less than a decade old, therefor it is in the same sphere that DA:I and ME:A. 

And there is still plenty of people that are not agreeing with you about how women in DA:I are unattractive. so your statement are not true.

And I have never said that your opinion is wrong, just that it is just that, a opinion. If you don't like how they look, fine, but to declare that all female are going to be ugly because one or two women are a bit weird. And they don't need to do anything but make a good game, if it makes people like you sad. well, don't buy it.

Where they went wrong was taking it too far in the other direction of female characters who were just ridiculously and absurdly over sexualized (that and not really giving as much care to those who were not entirely straight guys).

It's great there's more diversity and options for everybody, but really limiting the attractiveness of female options like they've done (as opposed to the men) just does make it seem like it was done on purpose.

What???

People are getting wound up about their sister not looking hawt enough???

Whether Sara's default model is hot or not doesn't matter much at it's core, because we'll be able to change it. It does however provide an example of what we can expect from female faces. The argument that "she's average and customizable protagonist" would hold more value if Scott didn't look like a model in the cinematic reveal trailer. A disparity like the one we have here isnt' exactly comforting to people concerned with how females will look like at all, especially since the two female NPCs we've seen aren't attractive either.