'Ugly characters?' thread

You're, of course, right about being able to customize each Ryder.  However, your own statements confirm that there's a disparity in their appearances.  "Scott is hot," you say, and you didn't qualify that at all.  You assumed no need to do so: "We can agree on that."  However, you clearly qualified your statement about Sara: "Personally, I think Sara is hot."  You revealed that your opinion may not quite line up with others' opinion of her.  So my point?  This disparity in their appearances is inherently unfair and hypocritical.  One is clearly better looking than the other.  This is simply more evidence to my argument that Bioware is on a social agenda at the behest of liberal, progressive feminists, in part, to help themselves and hurt the opponents they've chosen to declare war upon.  So be it.  

But own it.  And own and accept that by catering to this group you're screwing over another group, hetero males.  Worse yet, keeping males beautiful but uglying down females is a contradiction.  "Good looking love interests for me, but not for thee," is what is virtually being announced on a megaphone.  Furthermore, this has been a worrying trend that many players noticed actually started in Dragon Age: Inquisition.  So far, there has been no evidence to contradict that male hetero players have been intentionally screwed over yet again, while female and gay players have been rewarded or have been allowed to keep their rewards.  Yes, it matters, especially since romance is a key part of these games that people enjoy.

Hate to break it to you, but "straight guys" are still the main demographic in anything related to gaming... they just complain far less then other demographics.

It's confirming proof, not definitive proof.  There's a difference.  I'd be very happy to be proven wrong, you know.  And you know why.

Second, I speak for many hetero males, not all.  Search the boards here and elsewhere to find men making similar complaints.  In fact, the OP is one such fellow, and you're posting in his thread!  But I'm not going to do the searching for it.  Shove it?  Ok, internet tough guy.  If you want to get down and trade insults, we can go there.  But you won't like it.  I'm Deadpool for a reason.  You'd be wise to remember it.

Lastly, I didn't play DA:I.  But I've read across a number of sites tons of complaints about love interests for male hetero players.  'Nuff said.

Yeah, sorry, but it didn't start with Inquisition. People complained in the same way for Isabela and Merrill in DA2, as well as labeling Isabela and Aveline manly and ugly as it happened with Cassandra. We had people criticizing some female LI in Mass effect as well. If this really started, it started long before Inquisition. 

I also disagree on the supposed 'screwing' being intentional. As well, you have men who think Cassandra and Josephine were hot, women that disliked the Blackwall and Bull, lesbians that hated Sera with passion, and gays that though bull and Dorian were ugly or not attractive. Truth to be told the only romance that you can qualify as conventionally attractive on the men LI is Cullen. That were discussion about this during DAI actually, with some people saying the female LI were hot why most of the men LI were not conventionally attractive. 

There is no actually proof that Bioware screwed anyone since Peebee, from the tech demo, looks attractive and feminine. The one actually screwed over are those who want to play with the default Sara, if she'll look like this in the final game, and most of those are women, most likely.


 

Not really anything gaming. In terms of complaining- I haven't yet seen women or gay men doing threads about complaining about LI's looks. But maybe this vocal part of this straight male demography is also quite vain

Question that could dismantle at least part of your argument, so tread carefully: Did Bioware do their utmost to make Peebee and Vetra and Sloane Kelly (who may or may not be romanceable) attractive to men in general?  Otherwise, I'd wager that they consciously chose to scale down their physical appearance.  I just can't justify any other motivation other than political for them to make such a move.

But to your point, Bioware has always made characters, both male and female, who've generated differing opinions when it comes to attractiveness.  Could that be the real issue at play yet again, rather than an intentional bias on Bioware's part?  Maybe.  Maybe not.  But when I see Scott and Sara looking completely different on a scale of attractiveness (objectively, it's pretty undeniable) and considering Bioware's undeniable hand in the realm of politics from its statements and from its various employees' Twitter statements, I've got to be skeptical and suspicious of their motivations.

All I'm going to say is, if Sara was on the cover of People magazine, it wouldn't be because she was gorgeous.  It would be because she was a good actress.  Women could say how pretty she was compared to the average woman, probably enhanced because she wears expensive clothes and has her hair and makeup done by professionals, or because they just like her personality and really want to root for her, but Sara would never be known as above-average in looks.  Scott, however, looks like he could star as The Bachelor.  In fact, I think Eric Bana called and said he's considering suing Bioware for appropriating his face/hair onto Scott's body without his express permission.