'Ugly characters?' thread

OMFG


First: you can be HETERO and find other men attractive. Finding someone attractive is NOT ONLY a sexual thing, you know? Call it charismatic, call it good looking. 
Second: there is nothing wrong with being gay. If I would want to insult you I WOULD HAVE NEVER called you gay BECAUSE THAT IS NOT AN INSULT. If you think homosexuality is an insult, well, work with those issues.
Third: SARA AND SCOTT ARE FREAKING HOT. BOTH.
DEAL.
WITH.
IT.



Edit: I've just read you, The Elder King, thanks! Yes, basically that

My boyfriend is hetero and he can tell when a guy is attractive or not. He doesn't feel less a man for that, maybe because he knows who is he and what he likes. 
I'm nearly to flag YOU for implying being gay is a freaking derogatory term, but I'm gonna let it pass because it's evident this is a very sensible subject for you. Whatever 
Don't worry, I'm done with you too.

But, by the way, Deadpool's character is not exactly the epitome of heteronormativity. I hope that doesn't break your heart 

As retorts have been equally exchanged, I don't feel a need to do more at this point.
But can we please calm this thread down.

Cute animal pictures will be inbound otherwise...

EDIT: Oh all right then, 'bunnies in cups'...

Thanks readher - nothing to add there.

You're right. It's about language and control, and we're not buying it. Using paper bags for grocery shopping is bad, so plastic bags are good. But now plastic bags are bad, so back to paper bags again. And then it's global cooling, then it's global warming, then it's climate change, then it's back to global warming. Now we've got at least one poster acting like people didn't and currently don't call each other "gay" or the f-word as an insult, which has caused fights and hospital trips, at least here in America.  See how this works? It's about language and control, but really it shows bias and manipulation of facts. You simply can't deny history or try to change it.  So, they're not going to change the world because the rest of us aren't buying it.  

Bioware can make its females as ugly as it wants in order to fight the patriarchy and all that political nonsense, but they're just going to lose and not change anyone's minds. Is your mind changed? No. Neither is mine. And our opponents continue to believe what they believe, too.  But the truth is still objective, facts don't care about your feelings, and moral relativism is doomed. And if anyone doesn't think Sara and Peebee and Vetra and Sloane Kelly are a drop in attractiveness from ME 3's crew, then so be it.   If they want to deny that SJW politics are behind Bioware's decisions as to female character models, then that's okay, too. Not fooling us.  Sara looking at least initially eerily like Anita Sarkeesian certainly hasn't helped the apologists' cause. Or Manveer Heir.  Or Sam Maggs.  Our minds aren't changing, and neither are theirs.  So guess we're all just going to have to keep fighting each other until the end.

Still I have faith that there are some reasonable folks still working at Bioware who know what guys like in general, as opposed to girls who think they can speak for hetero guys, or any other hipster who's a self-proclaimed feminist, and here's hoping that Cora is the one we're looking for.

I don't see how Solas is of any relevancy here when we're talking about female LIs for straight males. You should also know that ROs for females have usually more "traffic" since they're much more likely to discuss them and fangirl over them than men who usually experiance romance in-game, MAYBE leave a comment or two on what how it was and what they think about it and leave it at that (with Tali being an exception for some reason, her threads were ridiculously large).

As for asari, they're not human so it's hardly a fair comparison. I'd argue they would look stupid if they had any sort hair because of how different they are.

And it's not just my opinion that majority of men don't like short hair. It's a fact. There's a reason why most young women wear their hair at least at chin length. It's what most males are attracted to.

As for that anti-femminist narrative, don't you think that if it's been used for so long and successfully, if I might say so, that there might be at least some truth to it? Just a thought you should take.

Parkour is an attractive female type of the Lara Croft or Starbucks' appearance, i.e. visibly fit, athletic and trained in martial arts. As opposite to say, dainty and gentle type, that is also quite popular and gets plenty of fanfictions. Written by men. You need not trash or dismiss what other people say or feel, particularly preemptively in order to self-validate your desires and wishes, and neither you have to forcefully assert that there are the multitudes railing behind you. It does not make it in any way more or less valuable to me. What you are looking for is understandable and perfectly fine. How you go about expressing it is making it hard to sympathize with,  because you are unnecessary forceful and defensive. You can describe your perfect LI in as many details as you want to, or how the females should look like in a fantasy game in your opinion. I am not arguing with you, I am listening. And you've managed to miss that, because you prefer to shout, rather than converse. 

Meh, they did open up to minorities just long enough to garner their support... ask gay men how they feel about mainstream feminism now, after they fall off the progressive stack.
...and yes, the suffragettes where crazy... also racist and classist, but that's neither here nor there. *shrugs*

I don't need any evidence, I didn't make the claim that fan-art mostly centers around attractive female characters, because I'm aware that the majority of fan content still comes from girls/woman.  Guys do modding, and that very much centers around attractive female characters, though.

...and again, it's culture vs. biology. The answer, of course, lies somewhere in the middle.

*peeks into thread*

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*slowly backs out of thread*

FLY YOU FOOL!!! There is nothing going on in here that you want to see, trust me.

I also posted this before, but nobody Answered:



Does she look that bad, judging her face structure?