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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 13:18:27 GMT
You know I would assume, being asari live up to 1000 years, that they will be the ones heading this initiative journey. They will probably be the ones still awake making sure every species get to Andromeda safely. I would go as far as to say, without the asari this project might not even be possible. I am a firm Cerberus supporter, but even I know how useful the asari can be.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 3, 2016 13:45:49 GMT
The Noveria fight is one of those instances where story and gameplay end up segregated. Asari commandos are supposed to be biotic badasses according to the story, but in gameplay they're deliberately gimped and use practically no biotic powers against you. Not once in the trilogy do you run into an enemy that hits you with a biotic bomb (singularity + warp) or hurling you off a ledge like a ragdoll, for instance. The only asari that are worth a damn were Tela Visor and Samara. I do agree that it would've been nice for my Shepard to be flung around in a singularity. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 3, 2016 17:01:08 GMT
You know I would assume, being asari live up to 1000 years, that they will be the ones heading this initiative journey. They will probably be the ones still awake making sure every species get to Andromeda safely. I would go as far as to say, without the asari this project might not even be possible. I am a firm Cerberus supporter, but even I know how useful the asari can be. But the AI is a human project. The other races just decided to join. |
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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 17:25:05 GMT
But the AI is a human project. The other races just decided to join. Sure, but it doesn't touch on the assumption that most likely the asari will be the ones awake making sure the journey runs smoothly. Humans or any other species, besides the krogan, wouldn't be able to do this. I'm sure the ships will need maintenance and other things like that. Who would do this if not the asari? Just because it was a human project, doesn't mean humans can do it own their own. Even Cerberus couldn't do a lot of their projects alone. |
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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 17:28:58 GMT
The only asari that are worth a damn were Tela Visor and Samara.
I do agree that it would've been nice for my Shepard to be flung around in a singularity. I agree, but what about Aria? She was pretty badass. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 3, 2016 17:29:15 GMT
But the AI is a human project. The other races just decided to join. Sure, but it doesn't touch on the assumption that most likely the asari will be the ones awake making sure the journey runs smoothly. Humans or any other species, besides the krogan, wouldn't be able to do this. I'm sure the ships will need maintenance and other things like that. Who would do this if not the asari? Just because it was a human project, doesn't mean humans can do it own their own. Even Cerberus couldn't do a lot of their projects alone. So basically janitors? Joking aside, there nothing stopping humans from doing that job (or any other race). You can always be awaken from time to time to check everything, you don't have to live 1000 years to do that. Even better, let an VI or AI do that job. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 3, 2016 17:30:13 GMT
The Noveria fight is one of those instances where story and gameplay end up segregated. Asari commandos are supposed to be biotic badasses according to the story, but in gameplay they're deliberately gimped and use practically no biotic powers against you. Not once in the trilogy do you run into an enemy that hits you with a biotic bomb (singularity + warp) or hurling you off a ledge like a ragdoll, for instance. The only asari that are worth a damn were Tela Vasir and Samara. I do agree that it would've been nice for my Shepard to be flung around in a singularity. Best villain in the series if you ask me. ps: I took the liberty of correcting her name, hope you don't mind. |
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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 17:42:06 GMT
So basically janitors? Joking aside, there nothing stopping humans from doing that job (or any other race). You can always be awaken from time to time to check everything, you don't have to live 1000 years to do that. Even better, let an VI or AI do that job. The problem with VIs and AIs is they can malfunction. Also we don't know how cryostasis in ME can effect the body. I mean we do have an example with Jack, but I'd say the reason why she was up in running so quickly was because of her unusual biotic power. Even Javik was screwed up when he was awoken from stasis, and Shepard had to be careful while awaking him. Keep waking people up from cryostasis over a 600 year period would be inefficient, and maybe even dangerous. Why take the risk when you have a race with a long lifespan willing to help? |
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Post by themikefest on Dec 3, 2016 17:56:05 GMT
ps: I took the liberty of correcting her name, hope you don't mind. I don't mind. I didn't realize I misspelled her name. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 18:47:50 GMT
Sure, but it doesn't touch on the assumption that most likely the asari will be the ones awake making sure the journey runs smoothly. Humans or any other species, besides the krogan, wouldn't be able to do this. I'm sure the ships will need maintenance and other things like that. Who would do this if not the asari? Just because it was a human project, doesn't mean humans can do it own their own. Even Cerberus couldn't do a lot of their projects alone. come to my mind. They could certainly keep all the mechanical maintenance and repair efforts going for the entire trip. The Nexus' designs are 'inspired' from the MW's Citadel, according to the 2nd installment for the AI recruitment vid. The Avina voice-over doesn't mention the keepers, but using a few keepers on a Citadel-inspired craft would make sense. See here: Arks & Nexus Training Vid |
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 3, 2016 18:49:58 GMT
You know I would assume, being asari live up to 1000 years, that they will be the ones heading this initiative journey. They will probably be the ones still awake making sure every species get to Andromeda safely. I would go as far as to say, without the asari this project might not even be possible. I am a firm Cerberus supporter, but even I know how useful the asari can be. But the AI is a human project. The other races just decided to join. The project is human-founded. We don't know how the various species' role is weighed in the project. |
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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 19:02:36 GMT
The keepers come to my mind. They could certainly keep all the mechanical maintenance and repair efforts going for the entire trip. The Nexus' designs are 'inspired' from the MW's Citadel, according to the 2nd installment for the AI recruitment vid. The Avina voice-over doesn't mention the keepers, but using a few keepers on a Citadel-inspired craft would make sense. See here: Arks & Nexus Training Vid The Keepers only exist on the citadel, they exist for no other reason then maintaining the citadel. You can't just take them off the citadel and put them on the nexus and believe they will work the same. Plus attempts to capture a keeper or take it into custody for study will cause the creature to undergo a sudden self-destruct. It's in the lore. So I highly doubt it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 19:26:27 GMT
The keepers come to my mind. They could certainly keep all the mechanical maintenance and repair efforts going for the entire trip. The Nexus' designs are 'inspired' from the MW's Citadel, according to the 2nd installment for the AI recruitment vid. The Avina voice-over doesn't mention the keepers, but using a few keepers on a Citadel-inspired craft would make sense. See here: Arks & Nexus Training Vid The Keepers only exist on the citadel, they exist for no other reason then maintaining the citadel. You can't just take them off the citadel and put them on the nexus and believe they will work the same. Plus attempts to capture a keeper or take it into custody for study will cause the creature to undergo a sudden self-destruct. It's in the lore. So I highly doubt it. I haven't forgotten this lore about the keepers and their Citadel-only habitat. I was kinda thinkin' about Chorban's 'Scan the Keepers' assignment in ME-1 and the data Shepard collected. Maybe some interesting info about the keepers was discovered that lets some of them be compliant with continuing their work on the Nexus. I also have in mind Mac Walter's comments that there will be some minor nods (references) in-game to ME-1 and -2. Expanding the lore in ME:A isn't impossible. |
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Post by 10k on Dec 3, 2016 19:57:00 GMT
I haven't forgotten this lore about the keepers and their Citadel-only habitat. I was kinda thinkin' about Chorban's 'Scan the Keepers' assignment in ME-1 and the data Shepard collected. Maybe some interesting info about the keepers was discovered that lets some of them be compliant with continuing their work on the Nexus. I also have in mind Mac Walter's comments that there will be some minor nods (references) in-game to ME-1 and -2. Expanding the lore in ME:A isn't impossible. Shepard has a role in this mission. He can actively persuade Chorban from continuing the research, that is a choice that the player has influence over. I don't believe BW will enter that territory and change people choices. Not only that Chorban did give Shepard a summery of his research data, in ME2, basically telling you that the Keepers were created by the Reapers instead of the protheans. Again that's stepping into territory I don't think BW want to get into. If the Keepers get hoisted onto the Nexus, what's stopping them from contacting the Reapers? It seems they are supposed react to some sort of signal, as Chorban discovers. What if the reapers send out this signal? I can't see it happening do to the fact the Keepers are connected to the reapers, they are not found any where else but the citadel, and the quest behind them is connected to player choice as Shepard. |
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