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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 17, 2016 2:08:08 GMT
I know there is a bad word limit on Twitter, but sometimes Mac's responses rub me the wrong way, just like, in the way he tries to make it silly all the time and it's kinda not. "Familiar... family.. geddit?" yeah, ha-ha, Mac.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 17, 2016 2:09:42 GMT
It's funny how humanity goes from discovering its first Mass Relay to "let's go to another galaxy!" in less than 30 years. Urgh. It actually wouldn't surprise me if a few people had plans to go to another galaxy before they found a mass relay considering there was a human colonist ship sent off to colonize another planet before FTL drive technology was invented in the setting. Some people are just think BIG.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 17, 2016 2:10:49 GMT
I know there is a bad word limit on Twitter, but sometimes Mac's responses rub me the wrong way, just like, in the way he tries to make it silly all the time and it's kinda not. "Familiar... family.. geddit?" yeah, ha-ha, Mac. Aww, you're just being grumpy. I like Mac and his Twitter humor. Of course, I don't actually use Twitter, so I like it by way of this thread.
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Post by melbella on Nov 17, 2016 2:11:17 GMT
That timeline gives a date for Shepard making N7 (2176). Was that ever mentioned in any of the games?
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Post by rapscallioness on Nov 17, 2016 2:15:45 GMT
gabriel @gabrielnunes any chance that we'll see a mass relay in Andromeda? Mac Walters @macwalterslivesNo Reapers in Andromeda, so no. However AI tech and Pathfinder abilities rely heavily on use of mass effect fields. "No Reapers in Andromeda". Thank God. I think asking about a mass relay was a clever way to ask about the presence Reapers in Andromeda. If it was intentional, that is. And to Gamble's question about out of all the stuff they've shown on MEA * snort* , what are we most looking fwd to...tbh, from what you've shown so far, all I really know is that we;re going to Andromeda, and shite happens. I understand from the orientation vid that there is some colony mechanic. I'd like to know how that works. Is it a simple drop that fwd camp, occasionally come by with some goodies for them or to defend them; and the colony pretty much grows on its own? Which is fine for me. Or is it that we just scout and mark the territory for a later drop, and that's it? I mean, as far as what I'm looking fwd to in the game based on what you've shown us - I think at this point I'm actually looking fwd to meeting Jien. We are going to meet her, right?
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 17, 2016 2:18:14 GMT
Grenloke @grenlokeHave you guys touched on squad commands yet? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon We've got 'em. The squad is generally smarter and requires less micromgmt, though--you don't order specific powers. Grenloke @grenloke Ah, so no ME3-style coordinated attacks. Focus on yourself & the squad's AI will (largely) take care of themselves? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon They tend to take care of themselves, yes, but coordinated attacks are still possible, using in-world cues. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray and electrify a crowd of enemies, so I biotic charge in to set off a Tech Combo! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonPlus you start to get a feel for what the squad will do in different situations based on your orders. More info later. - So now we have a little clearer idea of how squad coordination works in MEA...
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Post by CHRrOME on Nov 17, 2016 2:23:02 GMT
I don't rememer hearing this. Where did they said that? I can't find it at the moment. I'll try later since I can't right now. Though it might've been from shinobi on GAF, so it might not be accurate. In fact, if it came from Shinobi, then I bet it's accurate information.
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Post by dalinne on Nov 17, 2016 2:25:53 GMT
Grenloke @grenlokeHave you guys touched on squad commands yet? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon We've got 'em. The squad is generally smarter and requires less micromgmt, though--you don't order specific powers. Grenloke @grenloke Ah, so no ME3-style coordinated attacks. Focus on yourself & the squad's AI will (largely) take care of themselves? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon They tend to take care of themselves, yes, but coordinated attacks are still possible, using in-world cues. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray and electrify a crowd of enemies, so I biotic charge in to set off a Tech Combo! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonPlus you start to get a feel for what the squad will do in different situations based on your orders. More info later. - So no we have a little clearer idea of how squad coordination works in MEA... One gameplay image is worth a thousand tweets words
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 17, 2016 2:26:07 GMT
That timeline gives a date for Shepard making N7 (2176). Was that ever mentioned in any of the games? Not that I recall. We know that Kai Leng achieved the N7 designation in 2176. I don't believe it was ever stated in exactly which year Shepard was designated N7. Leaving it unspecified allows it to easily fit with all three backgrounds.
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Post by LFS on Nov 17, 2016 2:29:08 GMT
...using in-world cues. Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray.. Ah, Liam; a true master of subtlety.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 17, 2016 2:29:33 GMT
Grenloke @grenlokeHave you guys touched on squad commands yet? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon We've got 'em. The squad is generally smarter and requires less micromgmt, though--you don't order specific powers. Grenloke @grenloke Ah, so no ME3-style coordinated attacks. Focus on yourself & the squad's AI will (largely) take care of themselves? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon They tend to take care of themselves, yes, but coordinated attacks are still possible, using in-world cues. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray and electrify a crowd of enemies, so I biotic charge in to set off a Tech Combo! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonPlus you start to get a feel for what the squad will do in different situations based on your orders. More info later. - So now we have a little clearer idea of how squad coordination works in MEA... One gameplay image is worth a thousand tweets words So, Liam has "Engineer" powers? I like the idea of setting up my own combo-chains on demand, but I'm sure I'll quickly get used to this more "true to life" setup. Every game has its own gameplay, and ME3 combos did need some rebalancing.
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Post by dalinne on Nov 17, 2016 2:38:08 GMT
...using in-world cues. Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray.. Ah, Liam; a true master of subtlety. We barely know him and we already like him Edit: Element Zero you probably are right! It's likely Liam is an engineer or some mix with tech powers (if they went to classless with the PC, maybe they tried different combinations with the squadmates)
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Post by rapscallioness on Nov 17, 2016 2:39:39 GMT
"Electrify" a crowd of enemies? Electrify, is this new? Is this a power, or something like an Arc Projector? Probably like an Arc Projector, not a power. That's cool, though.
Also, if they're no classes, and we're speccing our crew, they, too, can be anything? They're not restricted to any classes, either?
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 17, 2016 2:46:30 GMT
"Electrify" a crowd of enemies? Electrify, is this new? Is this a power, or something like an Arc Projector? Probably like an Arc Projector, not a power. That's cool, though. Also, if they're no classes, and we're speccing our crew, they, too, can be anything? They're not restricted to any classes, either? Nope. They clarified that only Ryder is this flexible. Everyone else is still more traditionally structured. It's not like it matters, though. Squaddies were never exactly boxed into certain classes. Narratively, it seems that they're framing it as part of being a Pathfinder. (See the GI article.) The easy respeccing is something Ryder can do because s/he is a Pathfinder. dalinne, a former police officer who charges into the fray would make sense as a Sentinel, no?
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Post by rapscallioness on Nov 17, 2016 2:49:16 GMT
Ah, Liam; a true master of subtlety. We barely know him and we already like him Edit: Element Zero you probably are right! It's likely Liam is an engineer or some mix with tech powers (if they went to classless with the PC, maybe they tried different combinations with the squadmates) As long as he knows I'm not his rez pony. Leaping into the fray and whatnot...
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Post by rapscallioness on Nov 17, 2016 2:52:33 GMT
"Electrify" a crowd of enemies? Electrify, is this new? Is this a power, or something like an Arc Projector? Probably like an Arc Projector, not a power. That's cool, though. Also, if they're no classes, and we're speccing our crew, they, too, can be anything? They're not restricted to any classes, either? Nope. They clarified that only Ryder is this flexible. Everyone else is still more traditionally structured. It's not like it matters, though. Squaddies were never exactly boxed into certain classes. Narratively, it seems that they're framing it as part of being a Pathfinder. (See the GI article.) The easy respeccing is something Ryder can do because s/he is a Pathfinder. dalinne , a former police officer who charges into the fray would make sense as a Sentinel, no? Ah, that's right. The PathFinder specialty. Okay, cool, so now I can try to determine Liam's class. lol!
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 17, 2016 2:59:54 GMT
Grenloke @grenlokeHave you guys touched on squad commands yet? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon We've got 'em. The squad is generally smarter and requires less micromgmt, though--you don't order specific powers. Grenloke @grenloke Ah, so no ME3-style coordinated attacks. Focus on yourself & the squad's AI will (largely) take care of themselves? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon They tend to take care of themselves, yes, but coordinated attacks are still possible, using in-world cues. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray and electrify a crowd of enemies, so I biotic charge in to set off a Tech Combo! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonPlus you start to get a feel for what the squad will do in different situations based on your orders. More info later. - So now we have a little clearer idea of how squad coordination works in MEA... One gameplay image is worth a thousand tweets words Heh... Now I really want to see "best strategies" style video. Because you don't choose which powers your squad uses or when, combos with them sound like they would be somewhat... haphazard. You try to take advantage of an opportunity when you notice one. - Would it generally be more efficient to set up your own combos (as powers are on individual cds) and not worry about combo-ing with the squad (unless a golden opportunity arose)? - Try to be as efficient as possible in squad power selection with those that would combo with your own? The more powers that combo with your own, the better the chance one will come up that will work with you. - If yours an Liam's roles were reversed, would Liam try to set off a combo based on your actions? Or is he going to fire off powers continuously as they come off cds?
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 17, 2016 3:03:46 GMT
It's funny how humanity goes from discovering its first Mass Relay to "let's go to another galaxy!" in less than 30 years. Urgh. It actually wouldn't surprise me if a few people had plans to go to another galaxy before they found a mass relay considering there was a human colonist ship sent off to colonize another planet before FTL drive technology was invented in the setting. Some people are just think BIG. Yes, but they sent to a near star, not the one in the other half of the galaxy. And of course, trying to colonize planets outside our star system makes perfect sense.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 17, 2016 3:03:58 GMT
Jos Hendriks @sjosz Some bugs are so singular, they cannot reproduce. Barrett Rodych ForgedPixelshow have I not said this yet
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Post by Rynnju on Nov 17, 2016 3:05:46 GMT
"Electrify" a crowd of enemies? Electrify, is this new? Is this a power, or something like an Arc Projector? Probably like an Arc Projector, not a power. That's cool, though. Also, if they're no classes, and we're speccing our crew, they, too, can be anything? They're not restricted to any classes, either? Nope. They clarified that only Ryder is this flexible. Everyone else is still more traditionally structured. It's not like it matters, though. Squaddies were never exactly boxed into certain classes. Narratively, it seems that they're framing it as part of being a Pathfinder. (See the GI article.) The easy respeccing is something Ryder can do because s/he is a Pathfinder. dalinne , a former police officer who charges into the fray would make sense as a Sentinel, no? If I remember correctly, they referenced Liam using Charge. So something closer to a Sentinel would make sense.
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Post by goishen on Nov 17, 2016 3:07:05 GMT
Man, I would hate my life if I had to be the one to program the logic engine for that. Of course, it would be kind'a cool seeing stuff asplode all around me when I'm done.
EDIT : And I'm more than willing to bet you that they're gonna have some sort'a tactics screen, akin to DAI. Only more accessible. Where you can put down Preferred, Normal, or Minimal, or Not At All. The reason that I say more accessible is because it was kind'a hidden in DAI, and not everybody found it.
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Post by Adhin on Nov 17, 2016 3:15:01 GMT
One gameplay image is worth a thousand tweets words Heh... Now I really want to see "best strategies" style video. Because you don't choose which powers your squad uses or when, combos with them sound like they would be somewhat... haphazard. You try to take advantage of an opportunity when you notice one. - Would it generally be more efficient to set up your own combos (as powers are on individual cds) and not worry about combo-ing with the squad (unless a golden opportunity arose)? - Try to be as efficient as possible in squad power selection with those that would combo with your own? The more powers that combo with your own, the better the chance one will come up that will work with you. - If yours an Liam's roles were reversed, would Liam try to set off a combo based on your actions? Or is he going to fire off powers continuously as they come off cds? Yeah that's why I think they removed the global CD and went back to more ME1 style. If we can't control squadmate power useage directly, then we need to be able to more easily combo our selves. I know people don't like not having the control of the squadies but I'm kinda happy about it. I always, always had squad powers turned off so they weren't always on a CD so I 'could' use them for combos. Which meant they just sat there shooting vast majority of the time. This way I'll still get all the combos I can setup personally, while the squadies still use abilities. That and if DAI is any indication squadies will probably use abilities because something is setup. You might fine the second you set one up, the immediately explode because the AI took advantage of it heh. Not all the time, obviously, but I'm sure it'll happen. edit: goishen: Now that would be a welcome change. Though would be kinda weird to spend a buncha points on an ability and tell them never to use it. Especially when we can't tell them to in combat. I'd like a 'Favored, normal, only for combo' where they hold onto an ability till a combo becomes available. That'd be pretty snazzy.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 17, 2016 3:22:02 GMT
Nope. They clarified that only Ryder is this flexible. Everyone else is still more traditionally structured. It's not like it matters, though. Squaddies were never exactly boxed into certain classes. Narratively, it seems that they're framing it as part of being a Pathfinder. (See the GI article.) The easy respeccing is something Ryder can do because s/he is a Pathfinder. dalinne , a former police officer who charges into the fray would make sense as a Sentinel, no? If I remember correctly, they referenced Liam using Charge. So something closer to a Sentinel would make sense. To be fair, those statements seemed to be talking about Liam "charging", rather than "Charging", if you take my meaning. You and I can charge, and we need no special powers to do so. I think those references were intended to tell us about his impulsive, aggressive demeanor more than his skill set.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Nov 17, 2016 3:42:04 GMT
Grenloke @grenlokeHave you guys touched on squad commands yet? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon We've got 'em. The squad is generally smarter and requires less micromgmt, though--you don't order specific powers. Grenloke @grenloke Ah, so no ME3-style coordinated attacks. Focus on yourself & the squad's AI will (largely) take care of themselves? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon They tend to take care of themselves, yes, but coordinated attacks are still possible, using in-world cues. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Ex: I see Liam leap into the fray and electrify a crowd of enemies, so I biotic charge in to set off a Tech Combo! Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonPlus you start to get a feel for what the squad will do in different situations based on your orders. More info later. - So now we have a little clearer idea of how squad coordination works in MEA... So... if Liam was a cop... Can he use Stunt Grenades & Pepper Gas on foes? (biover pls)
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 17, 2016 3:45:11 GMT
Heh... Now I really want to see "best strategies" style video. Because you don't choose which powers your squad uses or when, combos with them sound like they would be somewhat... haphazard. You try to take advantage of an opportunity when you notice one. - Would it generally be more efficient to set up your own combos (as powers are on individual cds) and not worry about combo-ing with the squad (unless a golden opportunity arose)? - Try to be as efficient as possible in squad power selection with those that would combo with your own? The more powers that combo with your own, the better the chance one will come up that will work with you. - If yours an Liam's roles were reversed, would Liam try to set off a combo based on your actions? Or is he going to fire off powers continuously as they come off cds? Yeah that's why I think they removed the global CD and went back to more ME1 style. If we can't control squadmate power useage directly, then we need to be able to more easily combo our selves. I know people don't like not having the control of the squadies but I'm kinda happy about it. I always, always had squad powers turned off so they weren't always on a CD so I 'could' use them for combos. Which meant they just sat there shooting vast majority of the time. This way I'll still get all the combos I can setup personally, while the squadies still use abilities. That and if DAI is any indication squadies will probably use abilities because something is setup. You might fine the second you set one up, the immediately explode because the AI took advantage of it heh. Not all the time, obviously, but I'm sure it'll happen. edit: goishen : Now that would be a welcome change. Though would be kinda weird to spend a buncha points on an ability and tell them never to use it. Especially when we can't tell them to in combat. I'd like a 'Favored, normal, only for combo' where they hold onto an ability till a combo becomes available. That'd be pretty snazzy. Agree on the CDs... Now if only they'd implement an 8 ability loadout that we could spam in one continuous, glorious loop. While I'm certainly curious to see how this works in practice, I still think the ME3 control scheme was pretty much spot-on. You could play an MEA run-and-gun style if you wanted or you could be absolutely surgical with the Ability Wheel. But interesting point on the possibility of some flavor of tactics control. We'll see...
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