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Post by themikefest on Nov 30, 2016 13:27:02 GMT
I mean....ME1...... if you're going to play it, you're going to have to tolerate the Mako. If the player chooses to only do the main quests, driving the Mako isn't that bad I've done playthroughs without doing any scanning Shepard doesn't have to. Yes just running by the character talking will have a side mission pop up, but they don't have to be completed to get any of the endings.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 30, 2016 13:31:39 GMT
I usually hear Performance Capture used to refer to doing full-body AND facial motion capture (sometimes at the same time), to differentiate from "regular" motion capture. I think some people use the terms interchangeably, though. Mass Effect in the past has used a lot of procedural facial animation -> mouth flaps programed to react to the wave form (or something like that which I'm probably way oversimplifying). So, not hand or mo-cap. Either of which would look better, but cost more. The procedural style did have the benefit of working with any language, though. For a photo-realistic art style, like Mass Effect, mo-cap is probably the way to go or hand-animation (with tweaks made by hand to make things mode a little faster or harder than stunt actors can safely do in reality). Gonna stop there before I go on a tangent, haha. If ME:A has full-body and face capture that... sounds too good to be true, and way too expensive for BioWare making these kinds of games. I wouldn't bet on it. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Hm.. If you think about it, Bio has done exactly that. Several reasons come to mind. For one, UE3's libraries from ME1-3 are incompatible with the FB3 engine. For two, the new graphics hardware allows them to ratchet up the cinematics. For three, Flynn and co. mentioned the new hardware allowed them to tell the story they always wanted. For four, the EA Play video shows a mocap in action (ie: full body). For five, the N7 Day cinematic shows the new body movement quite nicely. Remember the way FemShep jogged? Add some manual facial customisation and you got yourself some stellar closeup cinematics that clues you in as to what the characters "feels". Having said this, the Turians are a lost cause and so are the Khet/Kett, while the Krogans will definitely required some manual facial animations (ie: their lips move).
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Nov 30, 2016 13:32:34 GMT
I mean....ME1...... if you're going to play it, you're going to have to tolerate the Mako. If the player chooses to only do the main quests, driving the Mako isn't that bad I've done playthroughs without doing any scanning Shepard doesn't have to. Yes just running by the character talking will have a side mission pop up, but they don't have to be completed to get any of the endings. My point was each game has its silly quirks.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 30, 2016 13:35:58 GMT
StarlaBlaise @aimzhanibrayevaPlease, tell me that not only Ryder's family will call him/her by his/her first name, but love interests to? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonIt's not limited to any specific characters. Just determined by what makes sense in the scene. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
I read that as a yes.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 30, 2016 13:56:38 GMT
Gotta love how some people seem even more excited about future games that haven't even been revealed yet (nor even conceived internally) of a game we already barely know anything about and nobody has played. Marvel sure has converted fandom. It's very funny you said that considering that you can't stop talking about how bad everything about MEA, " a game we already barely know anything about and nobody has played", will be. NeoGAF isn't a fanboy site? Are you kidding? (don't know about the other one). Truth be told i don't remember seeing you saying something positive about MEA... ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Sometime we need some cold water splashed on our face to come back to reality from all that gooie-gooie dreamland some live in.
Let's take this: " a game we already barely know anything about and nobody has played"
While the statement is true, the potential experience is still up in the air, for both camps. Interesting enough, I have yet to see a "naysayer" attack a "yesayer" while the opposite does so from time to time.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 30, 2016 14:01:51 GMT
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Characters will sometimes call Ryder by their first name if you chose the default names (Scott/Sara), yes.
Gamedam Meister @gamedammeister Would it only work with the exact spelling of the default names, or also names that sound identical, like Sarah?
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon TBD.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 30, 2016 14:07:12 GMT
Deanna Jones @teamgameofjones Finally going to the mothership.
Mac Walters @macwalterslives Just in time for winter!
Deanna Jones @teamgameofjones Basically🙂 Can I stop in and see you tomorrow?
Mac Walters @macwalterslives So... um. Kinda leaving at 6am to go to a VO session and @thegameawards in LA. #DontBeMad
Deanna Jones @teamgameofjones Let me get this straight.. I leave California for Edmonton and you leave Edmonton for California?
💔
Mac Walters @macwalterslives we're clearly just not getting along...
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 30, 2016 14:07:53 GMT
Yanick Roy @yanickrroy 🎶Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love ya, tomorrow 🎶 You're only a day away! 🎶 😁
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Post by LFS on Nov 30, 2016 14:09:09 GMT
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon
Characters will sometimes call Ryder by their first name if you chose the default names (Scott/Sara), yes. Gamedam Meister @gamedammeisterWould it only work with the exact spelling of the default names, or also names that sound identical, like Sarah? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonTBD. Adding to this, because I didn't see this reply (though TBH I was skimming most of the last pages; if I just missed it I'll delete.) Bruna Melo @bmelo42 @tibermoon @the_Elder_King COOL! And the Ryder we don't choose will always have the default name to have the difference when spoken to/of? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon@bmelo42 @the_Elder_King Your twin? Yes, that's correct. ------ Which makes complete sense, and prevents the game turning into an Abbott and Costello bit.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 30, 2016 14:28:55 GMT
Edmonton Journal @edmontonjournalBioware's aarynflynn says video games represent "green shoots" in the struggling Alberta economy. ow.ly/z9y4306Fsj6 AaryN7 FlynN7 aarynflynn
Thanks to everyone who made the time to come out and celebrate and educate about our industry in Alberta. Exciting times ahead!
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Post by CHRrOME on Nov 30, 2016 14:28:55 GMT
Tomorrow finally, I know it's probably gonna be just a tiny 5min gameplay video, but GAMEPLAY THOUGH Also, in my absolute ignorance, any time as in when exactly does the VGA starts tomorrow?
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 30, 2016 14:33:12 GMT
Ben Gelinas @bengelinas Me at work right now: I've got 99 problems but oh shit now I have 105! ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Does this mean Bio Montreal is polishing the CC to give us poor players the ability to create our very own hair salon like styles?
I'd give a pinky if Bio Montreal ditched Edmonton's CC and actually built from scratch a working facial plus hair styling CC.
Note: Those with a Twit account can you please bombard Bio about the CC in ME:A?
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 30, 2016 14:38:25 GMT
Tomorrow finally, I know it's probably gonna be just a tiny 5min gameplay video, but GAMEPLAY THOUGH Also, in my absolute ignorance, any time as in when exactly does the VGA starts tomorrow? thegameawards.com/5:30 PM PT 1 day / 11hrs / 21 min.
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 30, 2016 14:39:25 GMT
Edmonton Journal @edmontonjournalBioware's aarynflynn says video games represent "green shoots" in the struggling Alberta economy. ow.ly/z9y4306Fsj6 AaryN7 FlynN7 aarynflynn
Thanks to everyone who made the time to come out and celebrate and educate about our industry in Alberta. Exciting times ahead! ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Looking forward to a decent hair generating CC, Mr. Flynn. If you guys achieve this, then I will be excited. My artistic ability is crap but a proper CC ought to coach me along to do a decent job....
Good luck
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Post by CHRrOME on Nov 30, 2016 14:39:47 GMT
Thanks
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 30, 2016 14:39:48 GMT
Sartoz You said "For three, Flynn and co. mentioned the new hardware allowed them to tell the story they always wanted." This is essentially propaganda and fluff. I'm not impressed by that statement when, as evidenced with DA:I they're still using the same stock animations for most cinematics and the "performance capture" cinematics still have a poor-man's motion captured choreography where the faces look seperated from the bodies. And it's not a "BioWare is terrible" critique because even Rockstar still struggles with making character faces look natural along with the motion-captured body movements in recent games like GTA V. You can see how one part is rendered via motion-capture performance and the other is disjointed because of hand-animation. To be fair though, both motion capture and facial performances are usually touched up by hand because there are certain inconsistencies in motion capture. It's nothing new that BioWare uses mocap. They've done so since ME2 at least. I'm just curious how this "full performance" is any different from what we've seen in DA:I or past titles. Hopefully they'll show some behind the scenes footage some day and talk about it. And by the way, full body motion capture (with touch-ups to facial performance) looks something like this, and yes this is not pre-rendered in the game: I guess this looks sorta okay though. And besides the "Smiling asari" as Mac called it was proabbly just some random portfolio footage anyway, whereas this shot is meant to be in the actual game.
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Post by LFS on Nov 30, 2016 14:41:55 GMT
I've never watched a Game Awards broadcast before. Is it going to be like the Oscars, where you have to sit through 3 hours of awkward non-comedy and singing and categories you don't care about/never heard of before you get to the 5 minutes of interesting content?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 30, 2016 14:47:43 GMT
I've never watched a Game Awards broadcast before. Is it going to be like the Oscars, where you have to sit through 3 hours of awkward non-comedy and singing and categories you don't care about/never heard of before you get to the 5 minutes of interesting content? It's very Oscars-esque, but it's less facade-y, or it was last year, because it had some real moments, like Zelda's composer Koji Kondo playing music from Majora's Mask on piano accompanied by That Dragon singing a Zelda medley in a non-awkward way, and then when Kojima couldn't come due to Konami Geoff Keighley made a callout making the entire audience boo. It was a bit boring for 2 hours, but it had really good moments and I like it more than Oscars or any similar stuff.
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 30, 2016 14:48:10 GMT
Bless you
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Post by hotdogbsg on Nov 30, 2016 14:52:13 GMT
8 hours behind those of us in the UK.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Nov 30, 2016 14:52:18 GMT
Yikes...now this sounds like the ME 3 endless Citadel fetch quests! Groan. Honestly, it sounds more like ME1's Citadel quests to me. The main thing I remember about ME3's is that you wouldn't even get the chance to 'offer [your] opinion/to solve [their] problem/to find [their] stuff' before it got added to your quest log and you shot off across the galaxy. Shoving your nose into other people's business is RPG 101, after all--the really off-putting thing about ME3, for me at least, was they way it was all so perfunctory. No dialogue tree, no, 'Never fear, Shepard is here!', just *creepily jots down notes in my omni-tool about someone's private conversation*. Sounds more like DA2's quests to me. I don't mind having these "side-quests" as long as the other non-main quests feel like they have more meat like they did in ME1. As long as you don't feel encouraged by the game to spend more than 30 hours doing fetchy busywork with barebones conversation or story. I do have to say though, I like the sound of infiltrating bases in this game as opposed to the Keeps in DA:I. It sounds like we can use Stealth in some fashion since, if we alert too many enemies they'll trigger defenses. I guess the concept also reminds me of Halo in some weird way, and it's much more interesting than the MMO-esque combat system of DA happening in such large spaces where it doesn't fit very well. Shooting and jetpacking around in sandboxy environments makes more sense than having a DA:O-size party in open-world areas.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 30, 2016 14:58:06 GMT
Damn it. I already made one snarky comment about Alberta today; I'd better bite my tongue, or else Beerfish will. LFS is an Albertan bully!
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Post by LFS on Nov 30, 2016 15:00:22 GMT
LFS is an Albertan bully! But I'm Australian; my casual racism and social foibles are endearing! Or I'm drunk.
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Post by hammerstorm on Nov 30, 2016 15:02:48 GMT
LFS is an Albertan bully! But I'm Australian; my casual racism and social foibles are endearing! Or I'm drunk. All Aussies are descendents from prisoners anyway.
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