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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:32:02 GMT
The distracting encumbrance of a possible shitstorm about an unlikely or impossible to be changed game piece like romance. Deal with that later. I get that. It's not a dispersion for all, many could deal with the romance info and talk about it but fuck...you know how charged this discussion can be already. Could be they want to be able to hear feedback on other stuff first. Maybe the info could be let out close to release? And no info doesn't stop a person from voicing an opinion.
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Post by dalinne on Jan 27, 2017 21:33:28 GMT
They want to keep romances secret this time. Not gonna lie, that annoys me, but I'd be less annoyed about it if is was done across the board. But no. With yesterday's trailer, they revealed that Cora is available to Scott. Which means that people interested in straight romance with Cora have the satisfaction of knowing that they can romance her the way they like. Meanwhile people interested in gay romance with Cora are left up in the air, wondering if they can romance her the way they like or if they are getting their hopes up for nothing. This goes for all the other potential LIs as well. Fans of Liam, Peebee, Vetra, Jaal, etc are left not knowing, meanwhile guys know they can romance Cora. They want players to play the game, get their hopes up and then get rejected after hours of gameplay. I don't know about you, but that certainly doesn't sound like fun to me. If they wanted to keep them secret, they should keep them all secret. If they are going to reveal some, they should reveal them all. Of course they can and will do what they want, but it sucks that it isn't the same across the board. The good thing about being european and having the game two days after the USA release is... the list of romances probably will be out thanks to the fans  |
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Post by Fogg on Jan 27, 2017 21:36:46 GMT
"Choices for heterosexual FemRydet seems to be low" amused me. Not to crash a party, but as of now everyone's (known to us) LI choice seems to be "low"  there'll be non squad romances, might be quite a few of those too? |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 21:37:22 GMT
They want to keep romances secret this time. Not gonna lie, that annoys me, but I'd be less annoyed about it if is was done across the board. But no. With yesterday's trailer, they revealed that Cora is available to Scott. Which means that people interested in straight romance with Cora have the satisfaction of knowing that they can romance her the way they like. Meanwhile people interested in gay romance with Cora are left up in the air, wondering if they can romance her the way they like or if they are getting their hopes up for nothing. This goes for all the other potential LIs as well. Fans of Liam, Peebee, Vetra, Jaal, etc are left not knowing, meanwhile guys know they can romance Cora. They want players to play the game, get their hopes up and then get rejected after hours of gameplay. I don't know about you, but that certainly doesn't sound like fun to me. If they wanted to keep them secret, they should keep them all secret. If they are going to reveal some, they should reveal them all. Of course they can and will do what they want, but it sucks that it isn't the same across the board. The good thing about being european and having the game two days after the USA release is... the list of romances probably will be out thanks to the fans To be honest, dataminers will probably figure it all out within a few days of the game going Gold and being available for pre-download. Or leaks from things like people who get a hold of the strategy guides or something. |
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Post by AGECCR on Jan 27, 2017 21:38:38 GMT
I don't think people need to be getting so heated over this yet. We saw a few seconds of Scott and Cora in a small trailer just to show that some steamy scenes exist within the game. More trailers will come out and I'm sure they will show at least a few more scenes and even if they don't, it doesn't exactly mean that others are getting cheated. There are romance-able squaddies, crew mates and likely npc's on other planets and outposts. I'm more than sure everyone will have at least a few options to choose from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:39:03 GMT
Prospero I'm sorry but when 3/4 of the fanbase who are interested in romance and LI's are left hanging not knowing who they can romance, you can expect plenty of people are going to be more than miffed.
The argument that it helps roleyplaying purposes and that it is like 'real life', being rejected and not knowing who is for who, that is a redundant argument IMO, we aren't playing 'real life', this a science fiction/space fantasy videogame. And it's not The Sims either.
Sorry but I don't think they are thinking very thoughtfully on this when they have already revealed one romance, and teased others, and now deciding the rest of the fanbase will have to wait to find out, and ultimately end up disappointed.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 27, 2017 21:41:20 GMT
I don't think people need to be getting so heated over this yet. We saw a few seconds of Scott and Cora in a small trailer just to show that some steamy scenes exist within the game. More trailers will come out and I'm sure they will show at least a few more scenes and even if they don't, it doesn't exactly mean that others are getting cheated. There are romance-able squaddies, crew mates and likely npc's on other planets and outposts. I'm more than sure everyone will have at least a few options to choose from. I doubt they'll show more romances in the trailers, other than maybe one for Sarah since they are pushing the 'they are two different people' thing. Bioware tends to use one romance as their 'poster romance' for each game. DAO: Morrigan DA2: Isabela DAI: Josephine ME1: Ashley ME2: Miranda ME3: Ashley and now MEA: Cora |
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 27, 2017 21:41:21 GMT
I suspect, like Sera in DAI, if a character is 'just not into you' they'll let you know quite quickly. I'm sure BioWare realise that stringing folk along for half the game won't end well.  |
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Post by Beerfish on Jan 27, 2017 21:44:37 GMT
The less they say about the romances or the overall motives of any of the major charterers the better imo.
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Post by The Elder King on Jan 27, 2017 21:45:48 GMT
I didn't feel that I lost anything in terms of roleplaying by knowing the sexualities of the romance options in DAI beforehand. If anything it enhanced my first playthrough. After that, everything is known anyway. Not really, you can't really be sure about all the romances in the game after the first one, if you mean just playing the game. They want to keep romances secret this time. Not gonna lie, that annoys me, but I'd be less annoyed about it if is was done across the board. But no. With yesterday's trailer, they revealed that Cora is available to Scott. Which means that people interested in straight romance with Cora have the satisfaction of knowing that they can romance her the way they like. Meanwhile people interested in gay romance with Cora are left up in the air, wondering if they can romance her the way they like or if they are getting their hopes up for nothing. This goes for all the other potential LIs as well. Fans of Liam, Peebee, Vetra, Jaal, etc are left not knowing, meanwhile guys know they can romance Cora. They want players to play the game, get their hopes up and then get rejected after hours of gameplay. I don't know about you, but that certainly doesn't sound like fun to me. If they wanted to keep them secret, they should keep them all secret. If they are going to reveal some, they should reveal them all. Of course they can and will do what they want, but it sucks that it isn't the same across the board. I agree with you, although I can understand why they can't reveal all of them since some will be located on the planets and might not even be revealed as character before release. I think they might at least show one romance per orientation though. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:48:20 GMT
Prospero I'm sorry but when 3/4 of the fanbase who are interested in romance and LI's are left hanging not knowing who they can romance, you can expect plenty of people are going to be more than miffed. The argument that it helps roleyplaying purposes and that it is like 'real life', being rejected and not knowing who is for who, that is a redundant argument IMO, we aren't playing 'real life', this a science fiction/space fantasy videogame. And it's not The Sims either. Sorry but I don't think they are thinking very thoughtfully on this when they have already revealed one romance, and teased others, and now deciding the rest of the fanbase will have to wait to find out, and ultimately end up disappointed. What sort of trailer scene would help the 3/4 of that part of the fanbase vs. the others that don't want it released for whatever reason? quick "unreavling" cutaways with provocative sounds? It's the way I imaging a scene with Jien(bi). |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:49:41 GMT
Maybe instead of revealing more characters, they could just confirm the romances from the characters revealed in the trailer and let us find the rest later? I feel Vetra by rights should be a romance. It just seems fair since males didn't get to romance Garrus.
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Post by wright1978 on Jan 27, 2017 21:50:32 GMT
Personally I'd prefer knowing squad Li's at least, though my own urgency on the matter has receded given Cora's seeming availability to broryder.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:52:55 GMT
Prospero I'm sorry but when 3/4 of the fanbase who are interested in romance and LI's are left hanging not knowing who they can romance, you can expect plenty of people are going to be more than miffed. The argument that it helps roleyplaying purposes and that it is like 'real life', being rejected and not knowing who is for who, that is a redundant argument IMO, we aren't playing 'real life', this a science fiction/space fantasy videogame. And it's not The Sims either. Sorry but I don't think they are thinking very thoughtfully on this when they have already revealed one romance, and teased others, and now deciding the rest of the fanbase will have to wait to find out, and ultimately end up disappointed. What sort of trailer scene would help the 3/4 of that part of the fanbase vs. the others that don't want it released for whatever reason? quick "unreavling" cutaways with provocative sounds? It's the way I imaging a scene with Jien(bi). I'm not asking them to release separate individual trailers. But ideally, now that straight men know one character they can romance, everyone else should be at least entitled to knowing one character they can romance too. Straight women, gay men and lesbian women are now being left in the dark, or at least that can be assessed given the recent tweet. |
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Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon It's a good day on the job when a bug fix requires researching the exact # of rads it takes to cause organ failure in humans. @joanna_Berry So there is a world in MEA that will Irradiate you? Awesome  Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonMaybe. Or maybe there's a VERY defective toaster oven in the Tempest's galley. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 21:57:38 GMT
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon It's a good day on the job when a bug fix requires researching the exact # of rads it takes to cause organ failure in humans. @joanna_Berry So there is a world in MEA that will Irradiate you? Awesome Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonMaybe. Or maybe there's a VERY defective toaster oven in the Tempest's galley. Death by toaster oven! The Sims 5 confirmed? |
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Post by surelyforth on Jan 27, 2017 21:59:23 GMT
I suspect, like Sera in DAI, if a character is 'just not into you' they'll let you know quite quickly. I'm sure BioWare realise that stringing folk along for half the game won't end well. Counterpoint- Cass and Dorian could be flirted with for quite a while before they indicated they weren't interested in women. |
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 27, 2017 21:59:41 GMT
To be fair, listing LI's now would be awkward if a large number are characters who haven't even been announced yet. We don't even know if all the squad mates have been announced yet or if there are more to come.
The cinematic trailers have always featured kissing. The purpose is to show that the game includes romance to people unfamiliar with it, not to confirm anything to pre-existing fans.
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Post by Rascoth on Jan 27, 2017 21:59:53 GMT
"Choices for heterosexual FemRydet seems to be low" amused me. Not to crash a party, but as of now everyone's (known to us) LI choice seems to be "low" there'll be non squad romances, might be quite a few of those too? Oh, I know that. My point was, saying that heterosexual FemRyder is low on options for LI, while we literally have one LI revealed (and not really fully, sice Cora's sexuality wasn't confirmed) is laughable. Why even bother with that when we don't have exact info about LIs? As for LI reveal discussion... I agree with those that say knowing whenever you can romance someone doesn't cheapen the experience. On the contrary, for me, knowing who is romancable and how romance works in game actually allows me to be more flexible with which options I choose. Ninjamancing someone because I didn't know that one friendly line was romance lock, or having to avoid some lines/ (even though you like them) because you're afraid what they can lead to... If not for my knowledge for romances, my IQ's friendship with Dorian would be so much cheaper. Flirtous idiots. Of course that's only my opinion. And one more thing - I know that there are some that don't want to know. I understand. But most of those people are avoidig this type of info or going into blackout either way. So while revealing/not revealing doesn't affect them that much, it makes huge difference for those who want to know. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 22:02:53 GMT
there'll be non squad romances, might be quite a few of those too? Oh, I know that. My point was, saying that heterosexual FemRyder is low on options for LI, while we literally have one LI revealed (and not really fully, sice Cora's sexuality wasn't confirmed) is laughable. Why even bother with that when we don't have exact info about LIs? As for LI reveal discussion... I agree with those that say knowing whenever you can romance someone doesn't cheapen the experience. On the contrary, for me, knowing who is romancable and how romance works in game actually allows me to be more flexible with which options I choose. Ninjamancing someone because I didn't know that one friendly line was romance lock, or having to avoid some lines/ (even though you like them) because you're afraid what they can lead to... If not for my knowledge for romances, my IQ's friendship with Dorian would be so much cheaper. Flirtous idiots. Of course that's only my opinion. And one more thing - I know that there are some that don't want to know. I understand. But most of those people are avoidig this type of info or going into blackout either way. So while revealing/not revealing doesn't affect them that much, it makes huge difference for those who want to know. My first time playing ME1 I played Shep as myself. A nice gal who helps everyone, and who is kind and friendly. Kaidan thought that meant banging, so he got a big bang on Virmire... |
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Post by colfoley on Jan 27, 2017 22:03:39 GMT
What sort of trailer scene would help the 3/4 of that part of the fanbase vs. the others that don't want it released for whatever reason? quick "unreavling" cutaways with provocative sounds? It's the way I imaging a scene with Jien(bi). I'm not asking them to release separate individual trailers. But ideally, now that straight men know one character they can romance, everyone else should be at least entitled to knowing one character they can romance too. Straight women, gay men and lesbian women are now being left in the dark, or at least that can be assessed given the recent tweet. On the other hand maybe they showed Cora because she IS romanceable by both the Twins. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2017 22:04:07 GMT
I suspect, like Sera in DAI, if a character is 'just not into you' they'll let you know quite quickly. I'm sure BioWare realise that stringing folk along for half the game won't end well. Counterpoint- Cass and Dorian could be flirted with for quite a while before they indicated they weren't interested in women. I haven't played the Dragon Age games, so I was unaware of this ^, but again, even if that sort of thing is indicative of 'real life' (  ) I would hope no character in ME:A does that. String Scott and Sara along, only to then say soz bros/sis, I don't swing that way. Alas, based on some dev comments about the romances, and how they want a mix of different types of romances, relationships, one night stands etc., I suppose we can expect some of this stringing along and flirty bait stuff in ME:A. Cause apparently no guns on the Tempest isn't a creative liberty, but not having 'realistic' relationship stuff from the real world is |
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I suspect the choices for heterosexual romances for Sara seem limited thing is a stealth I'm not racist but... thing.
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Post by Rascoth on Jan 27, 2017 22:09:41 GMT
My first time playing ME1 I played Shep as myself. A nice gal who helps everyone, and who is kind and friendly. Kaidan thought that meant banging, so he got a big bang on Virmire... You only prove my point. Reveal LIs! Save lives! |
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