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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 17:08:06 GMT
 Whelp. Guess 3/4 of people interested in romance hafta wait and get burned. I don't really get where you get 3/4 of the people from?  If you are only counting straight male, straight female, lesbian and gay I don't think that straight male only makes up 1/4 of the player base. And that does not include the people that don't like Cora's appearances. I'm sorry that I have gone on about this at length. The 3/4 are the straight female, gay male and lesbian players of the fanbase, who are interested in romance and what love interests are available to who, I'm not saying the overall player base, I'm talking about those who are specifically interested in who is available to which Ryder sibling. I understand that there may well be people who don't want to romance Cora, but by confirming a Scott and Cora romance, many players who were hoping to romance her can rest easier knowing now that they can, whilst everyone else doesn't know who, and will have to find out by playing the game, and some getting their hopes crushed. They say its for roleplaying purposes, but disappointment when a character you were hoping to romance isn't available to your identified gender or orientation isn't really a nice outcome from playing a game we are meant to enjoy. This is just my opinion on this. Whelp. Guess 3/4 of people interested in romance hafta wait and get burned. Bioware is basically in a no-win situation when it comes to romances. If they announce them, they'll get a ton of crap from people who wanted character X to be available to them and aren't. If they don't announce them, people get upset because they want to plan their playthroughs. I want to know who will be available too, but looking at the type and amount of shit Bioware will get, I'd probably choose the keep-my-mouth-shut route too. I understand. It is a difficult situation. But like sandalisthemaker brought up, if they were going to keep the romance options secret until launch, they should have done so for all romances, and not confirm one romance for one portion of the fanbase in the trailer. IMO its slightly unfair. And they can always post the list or however they want to get the word out in a way that people who want to know can find it out, and people who don't can avoid. Ideally if it were leaked on here, it would be in the special spoiler sub-thread in the Andromeda romance section, for those who don't mind it being spoiled can discuss, and those who don't want to know can avoid and enjoy finding out themselves. Either way, its probably inevitable BioWare is going to get some flak from people who find out that a character isn't available to their identified gender and orientation. They've already said not every squadmate and character is a Love Interest and some are gender exclusive. |
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Post by Hrungr on Jan 28, 2017 17:21:35 GMT
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If we name a male Ryder Sara will NPCs call him Sara?
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You can name M!Ryder Sara if you want, but folks won't call him that. (Who knows, maybe we can support that in a future game)
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Post by SofaJockey on Jan 28, 2017 17:36:41 GMT
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not to b dramatic but will all romances b announced soon? my ability to have f/f romances might determine if i get the game Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon
There will be F/F romance options.  But we're not planning to release the full list of specific romances before ship. Thomas Windle @twindlen7
aarynflynn I understand that I just get worried about flirting with someone for 10+ hours only to find out it's not going to work Aaryn Flynn aarynflynn
I guarantee you it will be out there in the zeitgeist very soon after launch Whelp. Guess 3/4 of people interested in romance hafta wait and get burned. For those who really want to know, we will have a Spoiler tagged thread here on the forum as quickly as we can, whether from EA Access or from the Prima Guide. It's fun to play the game but for those who must know, we'll have their back. |
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Post by Tosh on Jan 28, 2017 17:37:50 GMT
I tried twitting to Ian and Mike about if we will be able to alter Ryder's appearance in a minor fashion even after the CC. For example - removing Scott's stubble and such... But didn't get any answer. Was anything like that answered before? If not, maybe someone else can ask him again? Peer pressure people!  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 17:39:14 GMT
Whelp. Guess 3/4 of people interested in romance hafta wait and get burned. For those who really want to know, we will have a Spoiler tagged thread here on the forum as quickly as we can, whether from EA Access or from the Prima Guide. It's fun to play the game but for those who must know, we'll have their back. ^ This is why the BSN is my fave place on the internet  |
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Post by Ianamus on Jan 28, 2017 17:43:05 GMT
I don't understand why they don't just release some sort of obscure chart for the people who want it, but that isn't advertised on their main sites. Then those who are actively searching for it can know before hand, but it will be easy for those who would rather not know to avoid the material.
Personally I find not knowing in advance can be fun, but I inevitably search for the information before hand every time regardless.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Jan 28, 2017 17:49:05 GMT
I don't understand why they don't just release some sort of obscure chart for the people who want it, but that isn't advertised on their main sites. Then those who are actively searching for it can know before hand, but it will be easy for those who would rather not know to avoid the material. Do you honestly think anything that get's released by Bioware won't become advertised? i've seen entire articles online based off of a single tweet... there's no way to not make it in everyone's face. There'll be even less of a way when inevitably a certain group aren't happy that the character they like the look of isn't straight/gay/lesbian (delete where applicable) starts ranting on and on about it. Hell this place seems to have been nothing but people stressing about relationships since the last trailer hit... It's almost like people have forgotten that Mass Effect is more than a dating sim. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 17:50:11 GMT
I don't understand why they don't just release some sort of obscure chart for the people who want it, but that isn't advertised on their main sites. Then those who are actively searching for it can know before hand, but it will be easy for those who would rather not know to avoid the material. Personally I find not knowing in advance can be fun, but I inevitably search for the information before hand every time regardless. True, but there are confirmed options outside of the squad so maybe they just mean them. I expect that at least all the squad options will be officially revealed before release though. But this is BSN we're talking about.  The romances are a big part of the game for some as it adds an extra layer to some characters (PC and NPC exclusive dialogue and scenes) in a way where it makes sense and one of the things people like most about Bioware's games are the characters so naturally people will talk about it. Just my reasoning on why people enjoy discussing it so much. As for me I just want to see some multiplayer footage and maybe 1 or 2 10-15min singleplayer vids. Wouldn't feel too bad if they removed romances entirely to be honest as it's barely that much content compared to everything else. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 17:58:15 GMT
isnt it funny that most people who say its not a dating game, mass effect isnt about relationships and stuff are straight people who know for sure that they will be represented?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 18:08:46 GMT
Whelp. Guess 3/4 of people interested in romance hafta wait and get burned. For those who really want to know, we will have a Spoiler tagged thread here on the forum as quickly as we can, whether from EA Access or from the Prima Guide. It's fun to play the game but for those who must know, we'll have their back.  |
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 18:09:56 GMT
isnt it funny that most people who say its not a dating game, mass effect isnt about relationships and stuff are straight people who know for sure that they will be represented? hell yes my dude false equivalences are dope |
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Post by hammerstorm on Jan 28, 2017 18:24:06 GMT
isnt it funny that most people who say its not a dating game, mass effect isnt about relationships and stuff are straight people who know for sure that they will be represented? Or, and this may be hard to understand, some people don't see the romance as 90% of the game? I mean, I understand that people want their "favorite" (based off appearance) as Li but the amount of people (of all sexualites) that feel the need to tell everybody that they are unhappy with this or that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. There is something as too much. |
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Post by President of Boom on Jan 28, 2017 18:24:45 GMT
As someone who loves to explore all dialogue options to their maximum but doesn't wish to romance any of the characters I just want crystal clear hints in the dialogue wheel (comparable to what we had in DAI) that tell me when I'm about to enter the flirting territory. I'm saying this because I spent the latter part of both ME2 and ME3 feeling like this:  |
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Post by pinkfrog on Jan 28, 2017 18:27:31 GMT
Jeez, it's like romance is the only important feature o.O
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jan 28, 2017 18:28:07 GMT
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Post by Rynnju on Jan 28, 2017 18:29:20 GMT
I tried twitting to Ian and Mike about if we will be able to alter Ryder's appearance in a minor fashion even after the CC. For example - removing Scott's stubble and such... But didn't get any answer. Was anything like that answered before? If not, maybe someone else can ask him again? Peer pressure people! No way the devs would deny us a chance to change our character's appearance after the CC. All that would do is cause an ENORMOUS amount of anger until they're forced to stick it into the game in some DLC patch. They've learned. I hope. Or wait, did we ever have this option in the ME series? I might have my brain too stuck in Dragon Age. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2017 18:32:52 GMT
I tried twitting to Ian and Mike about if we will be able to alter Ryder's appearance in a minor fashion even after the CC. For example - removing Scott's stubble and such... But didn't get any answer. Was anything like that answered before? If not, maybe someone else can ask him again? Peer pressure people! No way the devs would deny us a chance to change our character's appearance after the CC. All that would do is cause an ENORMOUS amount of anger until they're forced to stick it into the game in some DLC patch. They've learned. I hope. I dare say they didn't.  But I agree. We should have a way to change our appearance after CC (all the details, just to be sure). Dad and sibling would be welcome as well. |
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Post by Pearl on Jan 28, 2017 18:35:14 GMT
Or wait, did we ever have this option in the ME series? No. I think you had the option of redoing your Shepard's face if you were starting a new playthrough with a save imported from a previous game, but I can't remember for sure. |
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Or wait, did we ever have this option in the ME series? I might have my brain too stuck in Dragon Age. No, but we all did it anyway by using save editors (Gibbed, for example). |
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isnt it funny that most people who say its not a dating game, mass effect isnt about relationships and stuff are straight people who know for sure that they will be represented? Or, and this may be hard to understand, some people don't see the romance as 90% of the game? I mean, I understand that people want their "favorite" (based off appearance) as Li but the amount of people (of all sexualites) that feel the need to tell everybody that they are unhappy with this or that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. There is something as too much. come on, really, practically every movie/book/game has an obligatory heterosexual romance in it. in movies/tv shows its usually tortured gays, dead gays or promiscious gays , books about lgbt characters are about them being lgbt and their sufferings and coming in terms with their sexuality, though there are some sci-fi/ antasy with lgbt leads nowadays but they are rare. rpg games like bioware ones are the only haven for gay people to think that smb like them can be a hero, can be a soldier/ explorer not just the "gay one". i love sci -fi , like fantasy, i love plot most but i wish to have smb like me be a hero for once and find love too, even if thats the movie only i will see. and bioware games, out of all most funded ones, are almost the only games that make it possible for you to choose a hero - female or male, who isnt straight. Of course there are other well known games who had lgbt protagonists( last of us, life is strange, ppl would say assasin creed with its bi male lead, but come its ridiculous, ubisoft and representation dont go well together) thats the only big titles i can remember that had lgbt default protagonists. sorry for many words, but i say this all the time, and there are still ppl who are surprised when ppl want more diversity/representation. |
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...Thanks, Bioware. Oh, there was something else that was all about you I wanted to mention if I saw you. Was there ever suggested a vanilla road to play mass effect? A pretty much straight road through the game that would make invisible all dialogue/decisions/options and such which would lead to what you find offensive content? One simple switch. A boatload of content would probably be removed but you'd still get the space, guns, money and clearest honey. |
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Post by Rynnju on Jan 28, 2017 18:46:44 GMT
Or wait, did we ever have this option in the ME series? I might have my brain too stuck in Dragon Age. No, but we all did it anyway by using save editors (Gibbed, for example). My console playing butt lacks that option. Damn, now I'm scared! I guess I just forgot I could never do it while playing ME! Maybe I was purposefully blocking out the memory to keep hope alive.  |
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Post by colfoley on Jan 28, 2017 18:48:53 GMT
Or, and this may be hard to understand, some people don't see the romance as 90% of the game? I mean, I understand that people want their "favorite" (based off appearance) as Li but the amount of people (of all sexualites) that feel the need to tell everybody that they are unhappy with this or that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. There is something as too much. come on, really, practically every movie/book/game has an obligatory heterosexual romance in it. in movies/tv shows its usually tortured gays, dead gays or promiscious gays , books about lgbt characters are about them being lgbt and their sufferings and coming in terms with their sexuality, though there are some sci-fi/ antasy with lgbt leads nowadays but they are rare. rpg games like bioware ones are the only haven for gay people to think that smb like them can be a hero, can be a soldier/ explorer not just the "gay one". i love sci -fi , like fantasy, i love plot most but i wish to have smb like me be a hero for once and find love too, even if thats the movie only i will see. and bioware games, out of all most funded ones, are almost the only games that make it possible for you to choose a hero - female or male, who isnt straight. Of course there are other well known games who had lgbt protagonists( last of us, life is strange, ppl would say assasin creed with its bi male lead, but come its ridiculous, ubisoft and representation dont go well together) thats the only big titles i can remember that had lgbt default protagonists. sorry for many words, but i say this all the time, and there are still ppl who are surprised when ppl want more diversity/representation. but if you are right that biowarev is one of the only games you know 'you' can be the hero then you know you will be represented to. In fact from what i remember a lot of people complained about the straight options being limited in DA. |
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Or, and this may be hard to understand, some people don't see the romance as 90% of the game? I mean, I understand that people want their "favorite" (based off appearance) as Li but the amount of people (of all sexualites) that feel the need to tell everybody that they are unhappy with this or that is, quite frankly, ridiculous. There is something as too much. come on, really, practically every movie/book/game has an obligatory heterosexual romance in it. in movies/tv shows its usually tortured gays, dead gays or promiscious gays , books about lgbt characters are about them being lgbt and their sufferings and coming in terms with their sexuality, though there are some sci-fi/ antasy with lgbt leads nowadays but they are rare. rpg games like bioware ones are the only haven for gay people to think that smb like them can be a hero, can be a soldier/ explorer not just the "gay one". i love sci -fi , like fantasy, i love plot most but i wish to have smb like me be a hero for once and find love too, even if thats the movie only i will see. and bioware games, out of all most funded ones, are almost the only games that make it possible for you to choose a hero - female or male, who isnt straight. Of course there are other well known games who had lgbt protagonists( last of us, life is strange, ppl would say assasin creed with its bi male lead, but come its ridiculous, ubisoft and representation dont go well together) thats the only big titles i can remember that had lgbt default protagonists. sorry for many words, but i say this all the time, and there are still ppl who are surprised when ppl want more diversity/representation. I don't see how that has anything to do with my post. I don't care if the post is about the lack of gays li, lesbian li, straight li or bi li. My post is that people are more concerned that their favorite isn't romanceable by their chosen character. Bioware have already said that there is li for hetero and homo people, so there is no need to be afraid for that. The fear people have is that just THEIR favo isn't a li. And while I am able to see that they want to know everything, it still don't make me see how it is a concern. It is a game, not real life, if you don't get the exact right Li, it won't kill you. For example, I really liked Lace Harding in DA:I but it wasn't a "real" romance arc. Should I be sad that I couldn't romance her fully? Yes. But the way people are complaining in here, in my opinion, is as I said before ridiculous. And I'm not against diversity/representation. But there is a limit to what Bioware can do. Not every straight will like their choice, just like not every homosexual will like their. Anyway, enough OT. |
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If you are only counting straight male, straight female, lesbian and gay I don't think that straight male only makes up 1/4 of the player base. And that does not include the people that don't like Cora's appearances.
But we're not planning to release the full list of specific romances before ship.
