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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:24:28 GMT
Ok, this press thing: this is bullshit. I get they want to show a polished product. I get they need all the time they can get. I get they're stuck in the worst planned marketing campaign ever and it's not their fault. Hell, I freaking made the SOON™ banner Ian is using on twitter. But, the game is a month away from EA Access. It's in good enough shape that they can show it to the press, hands on. And we have no meaningful gameplay to date. Bullshit, I say. We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. They said they were showing it to the press not that the press was going to release the gameplay as soon as they get it. Hopefully they do though.
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Post by commanderkorra on Feb 15, 2017 19:25:28 GMT
I will be happy with either one, obviously longer is better lol. I'd be happy with either too tbh. But the questions I'd like answered and I think a lot of people would like answered around here would only likely happen in the long 15 minute type vid. Certainly relating to how the profile and power systems work for example certainly need clarifying and I don't think any people are going to get that clarification from a 2-3 minute promo vid. We need to either have someone like Ian explain it or someone actually showing the systems off. This sort of thing can only be done in a 15 minute vid of uncut gameplay or something. Yeah hopefully a lot of questions people have are answered.
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Feb 15, 2017 19:25:51 GMT
We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. I know. That's my beef. There'ss always an "after" or a "We'll show you more in six months time", and apparently everyone gets to see it but the people who are actually interested. This carrot and stick thing is too tiresome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:26:38 GMT
We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. They said they were showing it to the press not that the press was going to release the gameplay as soon as they get it. Hopefully they do though. Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press. We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. I know. That's my beef. There'ss always an "after" or a "We'll show you more in six months time", and apparently everyone gets to see it but the people who are actually interested. This carrot and stick thing is too tiresome. Probably because they get a glimpse and in 1 month we get the game forever.
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Post by DayusMakhina on Feb 15, 2017 19:27:36 GMT
Ok, this press thing: this is bullshit. I get they want to show a polished product. I get they need all the time they can get. I get they're stuck in the worst planned marketing campaign ever and it's not their fault. Hell, I freaking made the SOON™ banner Ian is using on twitter. But, the game is a month away from EA Access. It's in good enough shape that they can show it to the press, hands on. And we have no meaningful gameplay to date. Bullshit, I say. We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. Yeh. Press were always going to get first look. People should take the fact that the game is now being shown to the press as a positive thing and rest easy, because once the press has seen it then the general public gets to. And even if for some completely unconceivable reason Bioware don't the press certainly will so we will 100% be getting far more information in the coming weeks prior to launch.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Feb 15, 2017 19:28:11 GMT
Maybe a Salarian since they're amphibian. Javik: "The lizard people evolved?" "They use to eat flys."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:29:08 GMT
They said they were showing it to the press not that the press was going to release the gameplay as soon as they get it. Hopefully they do though. Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press. If all the press is going to do is write a paragraph about how good the game is then it was a waste of time imo. If the trailer is only around 2min of scene to scene rather than uncut gameplay again people's opinion on that Bioware is not confident in their product will only be reinforced therefore potentially reducing the initial release date sales.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
Indeed, the press is going to release the hands on on the game. Maybe they'll have some shots and a bit of video but not much. The trailers will be released by Bioware. I'd say it'll be better if they release it tomorrow and wait for the bio of a squadmate for Friday. But it'll probably be the opposite.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:29:12 GMT
We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. Yeh. Press were always going to get first look. People should take the fact that the game is now being shown to the press as a positive thing and rest easy, because once the press has seen it then the general public gets to. And even if for some completely unconceivable reason Bioware don't the press certainly will so we will 100% be getting far more information in the coming weeks prior to launch. Exactly! This is all good stuff and it means the wait is almost over! Sadly this is also the time where it feels like an eternity for some of us. Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press. If all the press is going to do is write a paragraph about how good the game is then it was a waste of time imo. If the trailer is only around 2min of scene to scene rather than uncut gameplay again people's opinion on that Bioware is not confident in their product will only be reinforced therefore potentially reducing the initial release date sales. It's supposed to be 15 minutes according to Shinobi.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 19:30:14 GMT
Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press. If all the press is going to do is write a paragraph about how good the game is then it was a waste of time imo. If the trailer is only around 2min of scene to scene rather than uncut gameplay again people's opinion on that Bioware is not confident in their product will only be reinforced therefore potentially reducing the initial release date sales. They'll do articles about it. At this stage I think the hands on should be quite extensive, at least a few hours of gameplay.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:32:22 GMT
Ok, this press thing: this is bullshit. I get they want to show a polished product. I get they need all the time they can get. I get they're stuck in the worst planned marketing campaign ever and it's not their fault. Hell, I freaking made the SOON™ banner Ian is using on twitter. But, the game is a month away from EA Access. It's in good enough shape that they can show it to the press, hands on. And we have no meaningful gameplay to date. Bullshit, I say. i.imgur.com/f7FdEdG.jpg
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:34:56 GMT
If all the press is going to do is write a paragraph about how good the game is then it was a waste of time imo. If the trailer is only around 2min of scene to scene rather than uncut gameplay again people's opinion on that Bioware is not confident in their product will only be reinforced therefore potentially reducing the initial release date sales. They'll do articles about it. At this stage I think the hands on should be quite extensive, at least a few hours of gameplay. Maybe, I can wait personally, but as I said in the comment with my opinion on Bioware's marketing so far, uncut gameplay needs to be shown to increase consumer confidence otherwise it's just hope/brand loyalty. The early access is only obtainable by paying $5 to sign up for the origin/ea access so people are also put off by the fact any way they can see if they want to pay is put behind a paywall. I'm mostly interested in this because I want to see what exactly Bioware's business strategy is because so far it seems like they are just sticking everything very close to release date and not building up any consumer confidence.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 15, 2017 19:36:20 GMT
They said they were showing it to the press not that the press was going to release the gameplay as soon as they get it. Hopefully they do though. Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press.I know. That's my beef. There'ss always an "after" or a "We'll show you more in six months time", and apparently everyone gets to see it but the people who are actually interested. This carrot and stick thing is too tiresome. Probably because they get a glimpse and in 1 month we get the game forever. I keep seeing this stated as fact. It may turn out to be true, but has anyone from BioWare actually said this? I've not seen as much, and I'm pretty sure I've been tuned in these last few days. Are you guys basing this all off of Shinobi's NeoGAF posts? Remember how that's worked out the last two times?
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 15, 2017 19:36:36 GMT
They'll do articles about it. At this stage I think the hands on should be quite extensive, at least a few hours of gameplay. Maybe, I can wait personally, but as I said in the comment with my opinion on Bioware's marketing so far, uncut gameplay needs to be shown to increase consumer confidence otherwise it's just hope/brand loyalty. The early access is only obtainable by paying $5 to sign up for the origin/ea access so people are also put off by the fact any way they can see if they want to pay is put behind a paywall. I'm mostly interested in this because I want to see what exactly Bioware's business strategy is because so far it seems like they are just sticking everything very close to release date and not building up any confidence. I'm not saying they shouldn't release uncut gameplay videos. I'm saying it won't come through the press.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:38:25 GMT
Maybe, I can wait personally, but as I said in the comment with my opinion on Bioware's marketing so far, uncut gameplay needs to be shown to increase consumer confidence otherwise it's just hope/brand loyalty. The early access is only obtainable by paying $5 to sign up for the origin/ea access so people are also put off by the fact any way they can see if they want to pay is put behind a paywall. I'm mostly interested in this because I want to see what exactly Bioware's business strategy is because so far it seems like they are just sticking everything very close to release date and not building up any confidence. I'm not saying they shouldn't release uncut gameplay videos. I'm saying it won't come through the press. Well hopefully Bioware releases it this month. Too close and I think they are going to lose potential profits on release. Edit: Just a statement for those who don't know what a civil discussion looks like, this is a civil discussion, I'm discussing Bioware's marketing, not whining about not getting gameplay. I admit I'm getting the game out of brand loyalty because I enjoyed their past games.
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Stakes Are High In The Story Of Mass Effect Andromeda Says Mac Walters
from yesterday. lol Thanks - I guess I just feel it's a smaller story since all of the galaxy (Milky Way) isn't at risk of being wiped out. But, I mean, how can u ever top or equal that? Right now we don't know why Andromeda is important - I'm sure we will later on. In my mind I am imagining being less satisfied story-wise, and I'm not sure why. How do you feel about it? You don't need a rescue the world / galaxy story for it to feel satisfying.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:39:57 GMT
Why would the press show it? We're supposed to be getting the trailer with gameplay this week or next from BW, not the press.Probably because they get a glimpse and in 1 month we get the game forever. I keep seeing this stated as fact. It may turn out to be true, but has anyone from BioWare actually said this? I've not seen as much, and I'm pretty sure I've been tuned in these last few days. Are you guys basing this all off of Shinobi's NeoGAF posts? Remember how that's worked out the last two times? Brett_Hagey@tibermoon ir would be great is the fans could see some more gameplay. Ian S. Frazier@brett_Hagey You will. I know it's hard to have patience, but it's coming, I promise.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:42:13 GMT
Fear not my fellow fans. In a little more than a month, everything will be over. The anxiety and our depression will be replaced by tears of joy or shouts of rage. Anything that happens before that, I'm already considering a bonus.
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Post by kumazan on Feb 15, 2017 19:45:15 GMT
I keep seeing this stated as fact. It may turn out to be true, but has anyone from BioWare actually said this? I've not seen as much, and I'm pretty sure I've been tuned in these last few days. Are you guys basing this all off of Shinobi's NeoGAF posts? Remember how that's worked out the last two times? Brett_Hagey@tibermoon ir would be great is the fans could see some more gameplay. Ian S. Frazier@brett_Hagey You will. I know it's hard to have patience, but it's coming, I promise. Ah yes, "patience", we have dismissed that claim. Pls Biower give us something, the envy is eating me seeing those guys are playing the game atm.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:45:17 GMT
Fear not my fellow fans. In a little more than a month, everything will be over. The anxiety and our depression will be replaced by tears of joy or shouts of rage. Anything that happens before that, I'm already considering a bonus. True to that. I'm really excited! Can't wait to play the game and hopefully at some point Bioware can explain their marketing strategy. I'm genuinely interested in their reasoning behind it. Maybe they think they don't need to do really anything themselves so they haven't really been trying?
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Feb 15, 2017 19:46:06 GMT
We are getting it, after the press stuff is done. Yeh. Press were always going to get first look. People should take the fact that the game is now being shown to the press as a positive thing and rest easy, because once the press has seen it then the general public gets to. And even if for some completely unconceivable reason Bioware don't the press certainly will so we will 100% be getting far more information in the coming weeks prior to launch. At this point in the game, we should either get a comprehensive gameplay vid at the same time the press gets their hands on, or at the very least a definitive date/time of when we get one. The video will be cut by Bioware anyway. It's probably already done. The message they're sending right now "we're not showing it to you, lalalalalalala", and considering how many people have expressed their dislike of how they've been handling things so far, they just shouldn't.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 15, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
I keep seeing this stated as fact. It may turn out to be true, but has anyone from BioWare actually said this? I've not seen as much, and I'm pretty sure I've been tuned in these last few days. Are you guys basing this all off of Shinobi's NeoGAF posts? Remember how that's worked out the last two times? Brett_Hagey@tibermoon ir would be great is the fans could see some more gameplay. Ian S. Frazier@brett_Hagey You will. I know it's hard to have patience, but it's coming, I promise. Ian's tweet does lend credence to Shinobi's post, but I'd recommend against putting too much stock in the details. Those are often subject to change, and end up far different from the expectations his posts create. Last June is a perfect example of this. This "15 min gameplay demo" people are whispering about could end up being a 5 min dev-guided talk-over that shows little. (I have no idea what Shinobi actually promised in detail, that's just an example.) Ian provides no date, either, so I'd say it's best that everyone chill and just take what they give, when they give it. It sucks, but we can't speed up their timeline. Set expectations to zero each morning, and be surprised when something is released: That's my typical approach, as thin as it's wearing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:49:15 GMT
I still think it's no big deal, but maybe that's just me. In 1 month we get to play this game until we burn out. If it was 6 months away and they did this, I could see the rage, but we're nearly there and we also have more profiles coming out. Roughly 4 weeks to go and still lots of time for things to happen, but waiting every second of the day for an update only upsets, aggravates and slows time.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2017 19:51:26 GMT
I still think it's no big deal, but maybe that's just me. In 1 month we get to play this game until we burn out. If it was 6 months away and they did this, I could see the rage, but we're nearly there and we also have more profiles coming out. Roughly 4 weeks to go and still lots of time for things to happen, but waiting every second of the day for an update only upsets, aggravates and slows time. Definitely, if people are getting upset probably best they find something else to do that gets them by. I can wait for the game. I'm just enjoying having a nice business discussion. Hopefully this doesn't cause anyone to get heated.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 15, 2017 19:52:51 GMT
I still think it's no big deal, but maybe that's just me. In 1 month we get to play this game until we burn out. If it was 6 months away and they did this, I could see the rage, but we're nearly there and we also have more profiles coming out. Roughly 4 weeks to go and still lots of time for things to happen, but waiting every second of the day for an update only upsets, aggravates and slows time. I agree 100% about people getting too upset. Not everyone is sold on the game, though, and I think that's the issue. ME is in a unique position of being a beloved IP that also managed to completely alienate, or at least partially disappoint, a lot of its fans. Many expected to feel much more confident about MEA than they're feeling, at this point, and it's putting people on edge. They weren't expecting to feel divided about Mass Effect one month from release.
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