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Post by LukeBarrett on Sept 2, 2016 21:46:21 GMT
And more on topic. I'm currently playing through DS3 with a Claws only build (had someone help me kill the dancer at the start to get the claws right away) in preperation for a DLC playthrough. I'm about halfway through and I'll just say that claws are pretty awful, even when I got them to +9...but I look like Wolverine so there is that
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Post by 🐰SpectrePearl🐰 on Sept 2, 2016 23:12:03 GMT
sun sword is too good, help me pls, i can't stop using it.
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Post by Shepenwepet on Sept 3, 2016 15:06:21 GMT
VERY solid game if you're in to Souls. I actually found it easier after I had gotten a hang of it - there are some Souls habits that need to be broken first. I'm on the third mission and still instinctively press L1 to guard. Since I needed attack at R1 to even begin to function, guard is forced to square. I usually forget it's there and opt to dodge instead of block, unless I'm approaching an archer from far away. I'm told the last boss is 'impossible' solo, but I haven't seen it yet. I can't summon as my connection to PSN occasionally drops and the game freezes for several seconds as it reconnects, I'm sure it would do so more often if there was another person there. I've only got three more days to get there, hopefully I can carve out some time tonight. Bird With A Hat = Best Guardian Spirit
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Post by Pearl on Sept 3, 2016 22:23:57 GMT
So I've been doing an SL1 no weapon upgrades run in DS3 over the past couple days and I can say without a doubt that whoever was responsible for the AI of pontiff's clone needs to step on a lego.
I'm told the last boss is 'impossible' solo, but I haven't seen it yet. Whoever told you that should not be trusted.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2016 18:07:35 GMT
So I've been doing an SL1 no weapon upgrades run in DS3 over the past couple days and I can say without a doubt that whoever was responsible for the AI of pontiff's clone needs to step on a lego. Pontiff was probably the hardest boss for me so far, I knew about him before reaching him so I was really nervous when I finally fought him. I can't even begin to imagine his difficulty in SL1. He was a really good boss though.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 5, 2016 18:19:55 GMT
Sully is sadly one of those bosses that can be parry cheesed despite being very dam good, I personally refuse too since I enjoy the fight (just like Gwyn, Champion Gundyr, Gehrman and Maria)
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Post by Pearl on Sept 5, 2016 22:08:28 GMT
Sully is sadly one of those bosses that can be parry cheesed despite being very dam good, I personally refuse too since I enjoy the fight (just like Gwyn, Champion Gundyr, Gehrman and Maria) Pontiff would be a good fight if the clone was consistent in phase 2. In the early part of phase 2, the fight establishes rules that the clone acts first, then Pontiff does the same thing about a second or two later. What you come to find out when you do a low-damage run like mine where you can't kill the clone at all, is that this is not always the case. I would say that around 40% of the time, Pontiff and the clone will randomly decide to act independently, which is a big problem when almost everything they do one-shots you. And yes, when they do decide to act independently there are combinations of attacks that they can do where it is literally impossible to avoid them (granted these are rather rare, but they can still happen). And then there's his hitboxes. Most of them are alright but there are some truly abhorrent ones, as my friend demonstrates below. Again, not a problem on a leveled character, but extremely annoying when you get one-shot. edit: And it's worth mentioning that the run I'm doing is really only difficult because of the no weapon upgrades part. A normal SL1 run isn't too bad once you know the ins and outs of each fight.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 5, 2016 23:08:46 GMT
I have never even heard of any of those problems or experienced them, and the fact you need to play a Sl1 to even get these wonky stuff does not ruin a good boss fight.
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Post by 🐰SpectrePearl🐰 on Sept 6, 2016 23:35:42 GMT
even though i haven't played ds3, the abyss watchers fight looks amazing, i wish it was scaled up a bit more, i wanted a bit more chaos and a couple more watchers fighting eachother.
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Post by Bael on Sept 7, 2016 0:27:43 GMT
I'm getting tired of scrubs ignoring duel rules in a damn duel From what I've heard you got those in the DS community who are honorable during an invasion, and those who proceed to be cheap. Though I'm new to DS, I try to abide those rules if I invade someone. Someone invaded me and a friend, since there appears to be a hotspot on the road of sacrifices. He is using cheap tactics and all that, and eventually he hides behind a black knight for protection. Well, the moron thought he was clever and my friend dropped something for me, and said "use this." So I pick it up, use it, and next thing I know the knight swings at the invader and starts chasing him. He ran and the knight wanted that ass. We just sat there as the knight chased him around, not giving up at all. The knight decided to be a bro and chase him towards us where we murdered him. Should of recorded the event for all to see. DS has a dark beauty from what I've seen so far. It's beautiful, yet bleak and dark. I love it. Also, me concerning dark souls right now. Mostly played 3, however when I get back from work I am gonna play one more. Since 2 is on sale from what I hear, I might snag it.
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Post by 🐰SpectrePearl🐰 on Sept 7, 2016 0:31:28 GMT
if i invade im just gonna be super aggresive, i don't want to unnecessarily prolong the fight. I pvp for the fight, not to win or lose so im not gonna waste time running away to enemies unless it's a full gank squad.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 7, 2016 0:49:14 GMT
There's a difference between invasions and duels. No one expects anyone to follow rules in invasions, however in fight clubs or a simple duel, you ARE expected to follow rules (no healing, no running away, let the person buff and bow before attacking ect)I expect a duel if you summon me by my red soap stone, not a free for all.
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Post by 🐰SpectrePearl🐰 on Sept 7, 2016 0:55:30 GMT
i have a questions regarding physical defense in dark souls 2, is it that important? or is it like in ds3 where it doesn't matter much and it's basically just a fashion competition, frankly i want armor to be unimportant because i want to be fabulous
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Post by DomeWing333 on Sept 7, 2016 1:21:07 GMT
Armor in DS2 is more important than it is in DS3, but Fashion Souls should always be your top priority.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 7, 2016 1:27:57 GMT
Armor is only important at the start of DS2, but by mid game, it becomes fashion souls.
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Post by Bael on Sept 7, 2016 2:36:18 GMT
The Fallen Knight armor in Dark Souls 3 is pretty dope.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 7, 2016 3:33:47 GMT
But the pants have a pee stain on it.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 7, 2016 10:03:36 GMT
There's a difference between invasions and duels. No one expects anyone to follow rules in invasions, however in fight clubs or a simple duel, you ARE expected to follow rules (no healing, no running away, let the person buff and bow before attacking ect)I expect a duel if you summon me by my red soap stone, not a free for all. Agreed but most pugs dont seem to know the difference. The amount of times someone has tried attack me when I was bowing/buffing in a duel. Then you have the flaskers who heal when their near death... On the other hand if someone invades me or someone who summoned me while were going through the actual game then anything goes imo. I had some moron sending me abuse and calling me a ganker because he invaded the hosts game while we were in the grand archives. I saw the host fighting with the invader so I helped him fight and kill the invader. Was the invader really expecting me to sit back and watch him kill the host? So many morons in this community.
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Post by Carcharoth on Sept 7, 2016 14:23:58 GMT
There's a difference between invasions and duels. No one expects anyone to follow rules in invasions, however in fight clubs or a simple duel, you ARE expected to follow rules (no healing, no running away, let the person buff and bow before attacking ect)I expect a duel if you summon me by my red soap stone, not a free for all. Agreed but most pugs dont seem to know the difference. The amount of times someone has tried attack me when I was bowing/buffing in a duel. Then you have the flaskers who heal when their near death... Because they're unwritten house-rules. You can't expect most people to know them, and even if they do, a lot of them won't care. "Honor Souls" is a niche crowd, not the majority.
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Post by kraidy on Sept 7, 2016 15:06:36 GMT
Agreed but most pugs dont seem to know the difference. The amount of times someone has tried attack me when I was bowing/buffing in a duel. Then you have the flaskers who heal when their near death... Because they're unwritten house-rules. You can't expect most people to know them, and even if they do, a lot of them won't care. "Honor Souls" is a niche crowd, not the majority. Then they have no reason to give hate messages when the entire fight club goes after them for healing in a fight (yes I have gotten some when the phantoms and I ganked a filthy flasker in a fight)
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 7, 2016 15:08:32 GMT
Agreed but most pugs dont seem to know the difference. The amount of times someone has tried attack me when I was bowing/buffing in a duel. Then you have the flaskers who heal when their near death... Because they're unwritten house-rules. You can't expect most people to know them, and even if they do, a lot of them won't care. "Honor Souls" is a niche crowd, not the majority. Then why send hate mail, you cant have it both ways...
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Post by Carcharoth on Sept 7, 2016 15:41:08 GMT
Then they have no reason to give hate messages when the entire fight club goes after them for healing in a fight (yes I have gotten some when the phantoms and I ganked a filthy flasker in a fight) Then why send hate mail, you cant have it both ways... Why send hate mail when someone invades and utilizes the environment to their advantage? Why send hate mail when someone doesn't fight you on your terms and beats you? Why send hate mail in general? If you're asking why some people are sore losers and take the game to seriously, I don't know the answer.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 7, 2016 16:36:21 GMT
Then they have no reason to give hate messages when the entire fight club goes after them for healing in a fight (yes I have gotten some when the phantoms and I ganked a filthy flasker in a fight) Then why send hate mail, you cant have it both ways... Why send hate mail when someone invades and utilizes the environment to their advantage? Why send hate mail when someone doesn't fight you on your terms and beats you? Why send hate mail in general? If you're asking why some people are sore losers and take the game to seriously, I don't know the answer. My point is that I dont think Honour-Souls as you put it is a niche part of the community. Organised duels have been going on since Demon Souls, every subsequent game have followed suite with areas that are organised for honourable duels. There is a reason why Fromsoft introduced Arena to Dark Souls 1 and 2 and that's because there was such a big desire from the community for honourable duels. In addition Fromsoft put specific rules in arena areas like 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 to deal with ganking etc and no flasking. These rules were put in place for a reason and that's because these were the requirements from the community. By the looks of the DLC trailer Dark Souls 3 will be getting some type of arena mode but in the meantime the community have marked certain areas in the game as hot-spots for duels. The rules have been there since Demon Souls and are common knowledge so I dont think it's quite as niche as you make out.
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Post by Carcharoth on Sept 7, 2016 17:26:10 GMT
Why send hate mail when someone invades and utilizes the environment to their advantage? Why send hate mail when someone doesn't fight you on your terms and beats you? Why send hate mail in general? If you're asking why some people are sore losers and take the game to seriously, I don't know the answer. My point is that I dont think Honour-Souls as you put it is a niche part of the community. Organised duels have been going on since Demon Souls, every subsequent game have followed suite with areas that are organised for honourable duels. There is a reason why Fromsoft introduced Arena to Dark Souls 1 and 2 and that's because there was such a big desire from the community for honourable duels. In addition Fromsoft put specific rules in arena areas like 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 to deal with ganking etc and no flasking. These rules were put in place for a reason and that's because these were the requirements from the community. By the looks of the DLC trailer Dark Souls 3 will be getting some type of arena mode but in the meantime the community have marked certain areas in the game as hot-spots for duels. The rules have been there since Demon Souls and are common knowledge so I dont think it's quite as niche as you make out. The rules are common knowledge among those that frequent the Souls online communities, not the average players who make up the majority. As I've said before, not everyone knows or cares, or they have an incentive to break these rules anyway. You also run into the occasional player who's only familiar with their own house rules and not yours. Can you honestly say there is mutual agreement on ashen estus use? Maybe some people don't believe you should use items at all. Or certain weapons and spells are banned. I've seen plenty of disagreement on the unofficial rules. Honorable duels might be a long standing tradition, and Fromsoft caters to that part of the community from time to time, but expecting everyone to obey these rules outside of an official arena is pointless. There isn't one yet, and the popular arenas have plenty of their own problems. What does an Aldritch Faithful get out of the fight club past Pontiff? Why should a Mound Maker fight three phantoms if the host won't summon another Mound Maker and killing the host gets you what you want faster? Following mutually agreed upon rules is all well and good when you summon someone, but why should I obey anyway when I invaded?
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Post by ALTBOULI on Sept 7, 2016 17:56:04 GMT
My point is that I dont think Honour-Souls as you put it is a niche part of the community. Organised duels have been going on since Demon Souls, every subsequent game have followed suite with areas that are organised for honourable duels. There is a reason why Fromsoft introduced Arena to Dark Souls 1 and 2 and that's because there was such a big desire from the community for honourable duels. In addition Fromsoft put specific rules in arena areas like 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2 to deal with ganking etc and no flasking. These rules were put in place for a reason and that's because these were the requirements from the community. By the looks of the DLC trailer Dark Souls 3 will be getting some type of arena mode but in the meantime the community have marked certain areas in the game as hot-spots for duels. The rules have been there since Demon Souls and are common knowledge so I dont think it's quite as niche as you make out. The rules are common knowledge among those that frequent the Souls online communities, not the average players who make up the majority. As I've said before, not everyone knows or cares, or they have an incentive to break these rules anyway. You also run into the occasional player who's only familiar with their own house rules and not yours. Can you honestly say there is mutual agreement on ashen estus use? Maybe some people don't believe you should use items at all. Or certain weapons and spells are banned. I've seen plenty of disagreement on the unofficial rules. Honorable duels might be a long standing tradition, and Fromsoft caters to that part of the community from time to time, but expecting everyone to obey these rules outside of an official arena is pointless. There isn't one yet, and the popular arenas have plenty of their own problems. What does an Aldritch Faithful get out of the fight club past Pontiff? Why should a Mound Maker fight three phantoms if the host won't summon another Mound Maker and killing the host gets you what you want faster? Following mutually agreed upon rules is all well and good when you summon someone, but why should I obey anyway when I invaded? Youre basing this on what exactly? I have given you examples why I dont think it is the minority. Fromsoft wouldnt have added arena if it was just for the minority
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