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Post by phoray on Sept 20, 2016 1:18:38 GMT
You can tell her you'll kill Flemeth but when you get to her hut you can let her go into hiding and tell Morrigan you killed her I wasn't romancing Morrigan, but on my first PT, Flemyth mind fucked me into thinking that Morrigan was keeping things from me. I believed her and agreed to pretend I'd killed Flemyth to Morrigan. Then later Morrigan was going on about how amazing a friend I was, I'd even killed Flemyth for her. The level of awkward I felt was over 9000.
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Post by DarthCompetent on Sept 20, 2016 2:04:18 GMT
You can tell her you'll kill Flemeth but when you get to her hut you can let her go into hiding and tell Morrigan you killed her I wasn't romancing Morrigan, but on my first PT, Flemyth mind fucked me into thinking that Morrigan was keeping things from me. I believed her and agreed to pretend I'd killed Flemyth to Morrigan. Then later Morrigan was going on about how amazing a friend I was, I'd even killed Flemyth for her. The level of awkward I felt was over 9000.Bahahaha!! I always wondered what happened if you did go down that route...
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Post by phoray on Sept 20, 2016 2:14:56 GMT
I wasn't romancing Morrigan, but on my first PT, Flemyth mind fucked me into thinking that Morrigan was keeping things from me. I believed her and agreed to pretend I'd killed Flemyth to Morrigan. Then later Morrigan was going on about how amazing a friend I was, I'd even killed Flemyth for her. The level of awkward I felt was over 9000.Bahahaha!! I always wondered what happened if you did go down that route... Morrigan never finds out, as far as I can tell. But then the fact that she puts herself in a locket Voldemort style for Hawke later seems to assume you killed her.
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Post by Sifr on Sept 20, 2016 21:21:48 GMT
I do wish that there had been an dialogue option during the confrontation with Flemeth to point out that she herself gave us specific instructions for us to keep Morrigan safe from harm... so by keeping her from harming her daughter, we are still abiding by her own request.
Flemeth herself seems to greatly value those who keep their oaths, pay their debts and dedicate themselves to a singular cause, so it does make you wonder how she might react to having had her own rules turned against her?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2016 1:41:23 GMT
I wasn't romancing Morrigan, but on my first PT, Flemyth mind fucked me into thinking that Morrigan was keeping things from me. I believed her and agreed to pretend I'd killed Flemyth to Morrigan. Then later Morrigan was going on about how amazing a friend I was, I'd even killed Flemyth for her. The level of awkward I felt was over 9000.Bahahaha!! I always wondered what happened if you did go down that route... In my case, when I played Witch Hunt, the option to say "Flemeth is dead" simply did not appeared once Morrigan mentioned her.
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Post by phoray on Sept 23, 2016 11:37:25 GMT
. For the first time, my third PT, I got the dialogue of Morrigan telling Leliana about Flemyth's bedtime stories. About how Flemyth would take men to her bed, use them until they were spent, then kill them. And how it would be expected of Morrigan when she grew up. I was kinda horrified. I thought she disliked Flemyth for just an ease with killing those who came into the forest looking for them. And maybe even the mirror story about how she shouldn't focus on anything but being a powerful magical being. But the expectation that someone as kind hearted as Morrigan be a Black Widow? Like, what parent has a right to dictate their children's sex style? Jiminy.
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Post by Tuchanka Love on Sept 23, 2016 11:46:28 GMT
Indeed. The more you think about it, more you realize how Morrigan's upbringing was fucked up. Anyone knows if the author for the fic Beautiful Madness is here? I remember he/she was in the official BSN. I love that fic and was wondering if it is over since it's been so long since the last update
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Post by Domakir on Sept 27, 2016 8:00:26 GMT
Indeed. The more you think about it, more you realize how Morrigan's upbringing was fucked up. Anyone knows if the author for the fic Beautiful Madness is here? I remember he/she was in the official BSN. I love that fic and was wondering if it is over since it's been so long since the last update Do you mean BurningLizard? I think I saw that user in Fextralife but I don't think he/she is here.
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Post by nogroson on Sept 27, 2016 19:43:04 GMT
Indeed. The more you think about it, more you realize how Morrigan's upbringing was fucked up. Anyone knows if the author for the fic Beautiful Madness is here? I remember he/she was in the official BSN. I love that fic and was wondering if it is over since it's been so long since the last update If I understood correctly what wah his/her plan about the fiction I would say it is not over. It is true anyway it has not been updated since long time, which is a pity, since it was really a great fiction IMO
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Post by oyabun on Sept 29, 2016 23:41:28 GMT
Ugh. It pisses me off so much. It was going so well for character until this moment in the Temple. I think it was really OOC the way she acted, because the game all the while made a point to show that her character had developed. She's not the same Morrigan from DAO. And you could think, oh she was doing it to get power so she could protect Kieran from Flemeth. But it wasn't even that, she wanted power, plain and simple. Selfish just like Morrigan from DAO. If they wanted Morrigan to drink from the well they could have used her motivation as a goal to protect her son. Before that it was like "I love my son and my warden, love my family yay" and then "fuck this I'm gonna drink from the well, my 10 year old son will take care of himself". Wtf. It was badly written. And even if Morrigan doesn't have a son, Morrigan from DAO likes her freedom more than power but she jumps at the WoS knowing she would be bound to the will of Mythal forever. Even Abelas warns you about it! I highly doubt Morrigan would give up her freedom just for that. I hate when they force the plot on a character when it doesn't make sense. It isn't badly written it makes perfect sense for her to act in that way she has always been a reckless fool,i dunno why you folk consider her to be clever or smart?
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Post by secretrare on Sept 30, 2016 0:41:02 GMT
Morrigan need to say thanks to the shining plot armor they gave to her for her double miraculous(nonsense) survival in an encounter with me HoF and the Red Lyrium Dragon.I could have killed her in Redclieffe but was forced by the writers to let her go,or in WH but the Dlc was abruptly interrupted out of the blue after my first attack for unknown reasons so I was not able to inflict to her a final blow(with a sharped powerful and poisoned long sword and not a mere knife) by simply crossing the mirror. In the end It doesn't matter at all.. The ex lead writer cannot gave to her plot armors against my mods. Chop her head via mods as well as seeing the old god being obliterated at least once a month is one of my favorites antistress. I serve only pain revenge and death to those who try to use me and act cocky and arrogant over me like this girl did,but now she know she has to remember me in fear rather than toy with me as if I'm like that idiot of Alistair;the eyes she had in the cutscene of my revenge that is how she need to remember the warden's name like a nightmare.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2016 9:28:57 GMT
Morrigan, I've romanced you like three times now (once with a Cousland, Mahriel, and Aeducan). She's like my new Alistair!
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Post by oyabun on Oct 1, 2016 0:04:26 GMT
I don't like her offer as well,I always considered it an unethical experimentation meant to alter a person from conception while also gambling the fate of the world with Solas and Flemeth(but since this world doesn't really exist that doesn't matter at least for me).I did not sympathized with her in the fade scene since Flemeth was right in saying that she was the one who used that child in the first place like a mere tool.
I have no respect either for the DR runners as well these are the kind of selfish rotten persons from whom i stay far far away.
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Post by secretrare on Oct 1, 2016 0:27:22 GMT
I serve only pain revenge and death to those who try to use me and act cocky and arrogant over me like this girl did, This attitude it remind me a lot of the Jingwen mafia!It's a peculiar RP for a warden I define it more as heroic rather than criminal mindset. I very much despise persons like her,a deceiver full of greed always ready to use others to suit her needs including a child.A lesser being like her shouldn't ever dare to insult an Hero like me because I act heroic by refusing a selfish,unholy blood ritual that gambles the world. I don't really care either about those who think that murder knife her is evil,they should just mind their business in their world and not in the one of others,it's heroic for me just as are by far more heroic all those HoF who refused the blood ritual and cared more for the world. l don't fear anything not even death and noone can blackmail me with anything,is Morrigan who have to fear me since she care for petty survival like any lesser being she has to fear the death i will bring to her.
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Post by Babar Guy on Oct 1, 2016 7:55:01 GMT
Morrigan need to say thanks to the shining plot armor they gave to her for her double miraculous(nonsense) survival in an encounter with me HoF and the Red Lyrium Dragon.I could have killed her in Redclieffe but was forced by the writers to let her go,or in WH but the Dlc was abruptly interrupted out of the blue after my first attack for unknown reasons so I was not able to inflict to her a final blow(with a sharped powerful and poisoned long sword and not a mere knife) by simply crossing the mirror. In the end It doesn't matter at all.. The ex lead writer cannot gave to her plot armors against my mods. Chop her head via mods as well as seeing the old god being obliterated at least once a month is one of my favorites antistress. I serve only pain revenge and death to those who try to use me and act cocky and arrogant over me like this girl did,but now she know she has to remember me in fear rather than toy with me as if I'm like that idiot of Alistair;the eyes she had in the cutscene of my revenge that is how she need to remember the warden's name like a nightmare.
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Post by Prince on Oct 6, 2016 15:00:47 GMT
This makes sense as well @rare. If you don't do the ritual, and if you had relied upon her and she leaves on you when you need her the most, that just shows she was using you and I can see the pc wanting to go after her for that. Sure, she had the right to leave as the others do, but she only inserted herself into you group to get that old god baby.
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Post by secretrare on Oct 6, 2016 15:25:35 GMT
Punish everyone who did not wanted to give anything to Morrigan was very pathetic from Gaider part because of the plot holes he created to suit Morrigan's needs even in DAI.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Oct 23, 2016 10:36:15 GMT
Stupid witch,dig for an old god yourself because with me you are out of luck and you will always be. There is nothing better than see you fail.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Oct 26, 2016 3:45:48 GMT
A lovely Morrigan fan art for this thread: Dakkun39
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 27, 2016 17:10:39 GMT
I'm trying to imagine the conversation where Morrigan tells a romanced Warden she drank from the WoS and is bound to the will of her mother forever.
Th- that's... gonna take some couples counseling.
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Post by NeverlandHunter on Oct 27, 2016 19:45:32 GMT
I'm trying to imagine the conversation where Morrigan tells a romanced Warden she drank from the WoS and is bound to the will of her mother forever. Th- that's... gonna take some couples counseling. Haaa, that's going to be an extra awkward if the Warden had killed Flemeth in Origins. *After explaining being bound to her mother* *awkward silence ensues* The Warden: So... your mother has some control over you now... the mother I killed. The one that turned into a dragon and who is apparently an elven god. Morrigan: She holds the essence of a being that was once revered as a goddess. The Warden: Oh, yes, my mistake. She's an ancient abomination. That apparently doesn't stay dead. And can turn into a dragon... which you can, too, now. Apparently. Morrigan: Indeed. The Warden: Huh. Well... that's, huh. Maybe I should have postponed my trip to the west.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 27, 2016 19:57:35 GMT
Morrigan: That being said, how do you feel about paying her another special visit, hm? Since the last attempt was such a miserable failure? Warden: JFC NOT AGAIN Morrigan: She tried to kidnap our son and sucked out part of his soul. Warden: GODDAMNIT
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Post by Sifr on Oct 27, 2016 23:31:05 GMT
Haaa, that's going to be an extra awkward if the Warden had killed Flemeth in Origins. Even more awkward if you're playing as Mahariel... Not only do you have to deal with the return of a potentially vengeful mother-in-law who may be able to control your loved one, but you also have to deal the earth-shattering revelation that you unwittingly discovered one the missing Gods of your people, brutally murdered her and stripped her corpse for valuables. Wonders of Thedas doesn't sell a Hallmark card big enough to apologise for that.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 28, 2016 1:21:32 GMT
^Oh god, I never realized that. "Uhh... my bad?" Hell, she might even be proud of them! "The People bend their knee too quickly" and all that.
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Post by Aren on Nov 4, 2016 3:32:18 GMT
I changed my attitude toward Morrigan over the time,from one of love to one of strong enmity.
I cannot forgive someone who purposely concealed informations that concerned my life for the sole reason to use such knowledge in a kind of blackmail fashion at the eve of the battle,and on top of that even deserted and insulted the warden despite them being lovers.I came over-time to deeply despise her stated agenda of preserving the knowledge of the past which is undermined by the fact that she hordes secrets rather than share knowledge and cultural development doesn't need that.
I hope that I will never see Morrigan in-screen ever again much less Kieren{who should be with me and not with her,woman who saw him just as a tool) as her character is now totally irredeemable to me,especially as i saw that she is still able to kill without mercy for power(see the Abelas killing)
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