Morrigan thread - "Tis cold in my tent, all alone..."

Something similar happens if Alistair remained Warden and is in a romance with the HoF.

I'm tempted to make a world state where Alistair remained Warden, just to see the potential for tragedy...

Pretty much as many people are stating here, she's one of the greatest characters of the saga. Her insufferable behaviour in Origins can be handled if you know how, just to discover how she gets terrified at the feelings and emotions that begin to spring within her for the Warden. Of all the romanceable companions in DAO, she's the one who ironically ends up having real feelings for you. Leliana maybe gets near her level, but she's more of someone who idealises the concept of love.

I also think about her as the most morally ''tolerant'' character in Origins and probably the whole series. No matter how many decisions you take ignoring her (sometimes terrible) views, you can still manage to get her in love with you. Although much of the awful parts of her personality are product of the direct influence of a whole life raised by Flemeth in isolation, you can end up discovering a woman with understandable values (passion for knowledge, re-discovering the lost history of magic and the old legends and methods) and who, although with resistance, leaves an open path to get into her heart of stone. Her character evolution through Origins, which direct results we can see in Inquisition if you stick up with her to the end in Witch Hunt, is incredible.

One of the worst tragedies of DA saga, for me, is that the great romance you can have with Morrigan, along with the whole story of the Warden's Commander, are laid to waste because BioWare has proven unable to give a proper resolution/continuation to the Wardens story.

That is true about all LIs, since triggering a romance doesn't depend on approval. Speaking of which, you lose a lot of it if you take her to Redcliffe and pick all morally good choices.

I agree about Morrigan, but Zevran a bit more than this.

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Zevran is just as afraid of love and also lacks a something/person to believe in. His friendship is just as delicious as his love.

That has nothing to do with the term tolerance.


As someone else pointed out being in romance with someone else doesn't make it a form of tolerance,I would dare to say Morrigan was very intolerant in DAO.
Whenver there was someone living according to different values she often pushed the kill button as the first advice."Mages in the tower"

She still can be convinced of the opposite if I remember correctly. The dialogue ended up with her saying ''alright let's have it your way'' in a condescending tone. And she actually changes her mindset/personality over a romance with the Warden. I have yet to see a companion that is eager to change that much for anyone.

Morrigan is sure shocking at first because of her misanthropic behaviour, which I insist is no more than a direct product of 20+ years of being raised in isolation under the direct influence of an angry mankind-hating goddess. Maybe my expression there is not the most accurate by far, but her evolution there proves there was already some sort of ''basis'' in her inner being already ''weak'' to an influence totally different from Flemeth's

Well, could be. Nobody's perfect ya know

And for if Flemeth hates mankind or not... I wouldn't be sure if that would be an exaggeration. She's the figure of the betrayed woman/lover, ''Mythal was betrayed as I was betrayed as the world was betrayed''. And of course she aided the heroes, she wanted Urthemiel' soul (for till now unknown purposes), something she eventually gets in Inquisition if you go through the Dark Ritual. Morrigan was her tool for that and she prepared her as much as she could to fulfill that role. 

That's interesting, I don't recall reading Flemeth is able to see the future of people (I don't recall quite many things, that's why I'm replaying Origins right now lol). I don't remember either how she helped Marethari.

Nonetheless the figure of Flemeth is interesting. There seems to be quite many stories throughout the lore about women who are betrayed by their lovers. Flemeth was betrayed by her husband and got his lover killed, Andraste was betrayed by her husband and got herself killed. As I've seen some suggest, Mythal and Solas could have been lovers and the Evanuris ended up imprisoning and eventually killing her. And I remember reading about more stories of betrayed women like that who ended up imprisoned in high towers in the Codex both from Origins and Inquisition. It seems to be a recurrent tale.

This eventually poses the question, also, of Morrigan's true origins. Was she kidnapped from her true mother, the lady with ''long dark hair'' as she says in Origins? Could this lady be a young Flemeth and she actually be the daughter of Flemeth? Flemeth seems to be very old already in the first game and Origins' Morrigan seems to be a 20-something as much, after all. 

I've tried every romance in all the games. Even after all these year, Morrigan is still my beau.My reason for this is simple. Of all the LI's, I feel she is more dedicated to the relationship. Everyone else's "love" is conditional. Morrigan... she falls and she falls hard. Breaking through that shell of ice around her heart make it all the more meaningful IMO.

I also love her character development through the trilogy. We don't see her in DA2, but from DA:O to Witch Hunt to DA:I. I can't help but love her more. She was my first romance... it was those eyes. My Wardens heart was consumed from the moment in the wilds when she locked those yellow eyes on him. I was hopelessly ensnared upon that first meeting.

I need some help. I'd like to start the romance through the dialogue you get from the following question.

"Tell me… are you really Flemeth’s daughter?"

Problem is that although I do fill the requirements and conditions, I can't find the way to this branch:

(Male) (Romance not started) Take a man such as yourself. Between us, there could be sex. Lust. Passion. Anything else is simply a delusion.

Nothing wrong with a little delusion. (+4) (Ends conversation) (Initiates romance)

It's too bad you feel that way. (+2) (Ends conversation) (Initiates romance)

Thanks for the warning.(+2) (Ends conversation)

No, there really couldn't be. Trust me.(-3) (Ends conversation) (Romance cut off)

Instead, the conversation ends with this version:

To indulge in love is to indulge in delusion. Surely a Grey Warden such as yourself does not believe otherwise?

I do, in fact, believe otherwise. (-3) (Ends conversation)

No, you’re quite right. (+4) (Ends conversation)
That sounds very cynical. (-1) (Ends conversation)
I’m not sure what I believe. (Ends conversation)