Morrigan thread - "Tis cold in my tent, all alone..."

Wow 2 pages with no Morri-Insults or claiming how evil she is. What happens with the poor haters? I already miss them ;-)

@  Iddy

I got the same problem. When I have time, I will try a "clean" DAO-Walkthrough with no dialogue-changer-mods like the Morrigan-Restoration-Patch. I tried every constellation, but never got this certain line. IMHO only 2 reasons possible why its not come.
1) A mistake of the wiki
2) Mods which influences it somehow

However if u found a solution please tell me.

Three games into the series and Morrigan remains one of my favorite characters - I'd go so far as to say she's my second favorite.

Just got reintroduced to her yesterday; did Wicked Eyes & Wicked hearts on my most recent playthrough. Forgot how much of a grudge Leliana seems to have held against her.

I generally prefer to build up the friendship with Morrigan before starting the romance in earnest, so the Warden can have forged a connection with her beyond a surface, physical attraction. Usually I like to try and trigger it after these two conversations where you can make her laugh;

Morrigan: So confident and bold was I, yet there was much that Flemeth could never have prepared me for.
Warden: Very daring, it sounds just like you
Morrgian: *Laughs* Equal parts daring and foolhardy, perhaps.

Warden: Is Flemeth really what she seems to be?
Morrigan: *Chuckles* Well that depends, does it not? What does she seem to be?
Warden: A nutty old bat.
Morrigan: *Laughs* Sometimes I do wonder the very same thing.

While she could have been pretending to enjoy the Warden's sense of humour to attempt to curry favour with them, she sounded more like she was genuinely amused by the Warden's responses and laughed despite herself. This ties into how (whether you romance or befriend her) the Warden is one of the few characters that Morrigan will let her walls down for. Doing these conversations early in my view, sets up their eventual relationship really well and gives more reason why the Warden would chose to pursue her.

Liara and Morrigan are completly different.
Morrigan has no problem in abandoing the warden(regardless of approval)at the end game if they will refuse to save the AD spirit for her,whatsmore she even decieve them for the whole journey,regardless of approval,so I wouldn't define her as "loyal".
She also deceived the Inquisitor at the temple of Mythal when she refused to fully reveal what she translated there,after she sworn to aid them at the best of her abilities in Skyhold.
The word loyal is incompatible with her because she is way too much involved with deceptions in alla 3 games(including the Last court where she may disobey to the Marquis).

"Most of us are DR players"..... Wow where are your data to confirm that?there is none yet you make such claim.It is simply not possible to chek the millions of players who have DAI to check which kind of world state they have,but I can assume that many of them have the default,and that is an US.
You also claimed that she will be present once again in the future to fight Solas,yet you have no data to confirm that as well.
You also claimed that she is no interested in power yet DAO and DAI provide strong evidences of the contrary.
Morrigan definetly didn't saved all Wardens(especially those who wanted to fulfill their duty) as there were many who had no interest in seeing the old god survive,(you know that same dragon who triggered the blight),so Morrigan saving the warden is not mandatory and therefore may be invalid to many players.

I don' see similarities with Liara,beyond the fact that they were developed by the same company.

Nah, I think most of us actually saved The Warden because when you have an oppoturnity to save your hero, you just do that. I've seen many playthroughs and only very few had the warden dead.


Did you play DLC content? If yes, you should know Morrigan was made crucial to the story by what Flemeth did. If not, I'll not spoil you the story.


Yeah, and if you saved HER warden, you'll learn she's trying to end the calling and she was the one who gave him some important info he's checking up now.


And with what we learn in DAI, it's good for old gods to survive.


Saving an old god soul doesn't mean she wants power. She said it herself, she wants to preserve the knowledge. And saving gods is a good thing. The throne is empty and without any god to sit on it, the world will crumble like it almost did thanks to Solas. Don't forget his work is not done yet, he'll try again and again and again until he either succeeds or is defeated. If you kill all the gods, Solas's journey will be much easier. And don't forget that those souls can only be USED to do bad. They can be also used to do good. Just like magic, just like any weapon.

Oh, and I've never said anything what I say is a fact so saying something like this is wrong in the beginning.

Which is why I said "I can be sure she'll come back as an enemy to Solas somehow and she'll most likely play a key role in defeating him in the future."
I can't see her standing side by side with him. He wants elves to be the superb race and humans pretty much all wiped out.

Sure. Fine. Whatever. Flemeth sent Mythal to her just like that bc why the heck not and Mythal will probably die of hunger trying to find her. Yup. Belivable scenario, lol. Nah, it's clear as sky Morrigan's story is not done yet and as mentioned above, I can't see her standing side by side with someone who wants the world to pretty much end for a human race.

1. Sharing dangerous knowledge can end up with creating a dangerous scenario with someone who can use this knowledge to do bad things. You can NEVER trust ANYONE with possibly most devastating knowledge that exist. So in this case I think she's doing a good job by keeping most of it to herself.
2. Sometimes killing is better than not. And she used to advise to do so mostly at the beginning of her journey with Warden&Co but how can you blame her? She was raised by Flemeth in the swamp, far from civilization and other people. She had to learn. And she did learn. She tells you she never thought about friendship and having friends, she never thought it was even possible for her to be truly friendly with anyone. It was the warden, no matter if romanced, who changed that.
3. Ha, but here you have a choice and if you chose to not let her drink from it, she's thankful.
4. Kieran was created to save the soul of the old god. She never though she could be a mother and yet, she became one and she even admits she became someone who she herself can't really recognize. This says a lot about her developement and how much she changed if allowed to have a kid (although she's siftened without Kieran too). Even Leliana points she's softened.

Not entierly. We don't really know what exactly happened between the gods, what exactly happened with the Maker (if he even existed) because those are all legends and judging by who started teaching them, I'd say they're made up.
We know the world was in peace years ago ad Fen'Harel most likely tricked everyone and made things only worse before he fell asleep. And now he wants to bring the world to how it used to be and he's not going to stop even if he has to destroy entire Thedas and its people, modern elves included.

I'm not so sure if he truly can take their powers tbh. It's tricky. He could've taken Mythal but he didn't. He chose to use demons and he fell in his own trap. He didn't go after freed Mythal who Flemeth sent through the eluvian either.
Bad "gods" are the fake gods. Even Solas fought against them after they killed Mythal. He may be an evil god but he never took the power of any other real god.

I see you dislike Morrigan. I like her so I see her differently from you. This means we'll never agree with each other. Especially when you say what I say are facts based on non existent data which is not true in the first place and I don't know why you claim it. To start a long, heated and unecessary discussion? I'm not interested in it. I described Morrigan from my POV, which I have every right to have just like you have every right to have your own POV. That's all I'm going to say now.

I'm not from US so I'm not going to discuss US data. I'm calling to what I've seen people do in their pts of DAO and DAI. I've seen a lot of those, even recently since I'm back to playing the series again and I like to see other people choices.

This character shouldn't be entitled to be present once again into another game because that would be her 5th unnecessary cameo.
This thing of her jumping around the world to conveniently meet and steal spotlight from all the protagonists is getting tiresome and ridiculous.


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if she does appear as "well of Sorrows" consequence, I hope we can finally kill her for good. I also do not mind in this one case to be handed a "Detailed Notes on All You Need to Know about the Well of Sorrows for Your Codex" by either "Yours Truly, Protagonist #3" or "Me Again, Morrigan the Bitch"

Designer notes: This is Flemeth from the previous two games. In this game, Flemeth's story comes to a head -- she knew that Solas would summon her, and that he would need to steal her power to further his plans. She knew that because they are both elven gods...yet Solas has slept for a thousand years and his power dwindled, while she was killed long ago and a spark escaped from her into the body she now holds. She has nurtured that spark, and knew that Solas would need it. He was once her oldest friend, but she knows in his drive to save the elven people he will kill anyone -- even her. She intends to let him have the power, so long as she can pass the essence of her god-hood onto Morrigan, a gift Flemeth had always planned for her daughter yet one Morrigan misunderstood as hostile possession.
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Which she did, as we've seen in the post credits. This is a fact which is still in the files while Gaider is no longer a team member.

And if we think about those notes deeper, it seems like the person who drank from the well is either free now (Morrigan) or is tied to Morrigan if she accepted Mythal (Inquisitor).

I'm not going to discuss this any longer with you. I don't need any data to share my opinions about her (most probable IMO) coming back based on what we've seen in the games so far which you simply can't understand and still try to force me, and others, to think I'm stating facts.

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