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Post by edfftw on Dec 17, 2016 8:27:32 GMT
Just finished ME2 a couple days ago and so far ME3 feels disappointing apart from the weapon upgrades which honestly were already part of ME1 and could've(should've) been improved and included sooner. Anyway, I've completed the missions in Palaven's Moon and Grissom Academy, now I'm back on the citadel.
So far I'm not enjoying how the story is told, seems like they tried to make it more cinematic or something. Shepard doesn't really feel like the badass hero he was in the first two games but this would be fine If the dialogue wasn't so bland, and those side quests where you just interrupt people in the middle of a conversation are the absolute worst.
ME2 gave us a handfull of great characters, well developed with interesting dialogue only to be discarded almost completely from the third game (yeah already spoiled myself). And instead they give you Vega and mostly squadmates you already know smh.
As for the shooting, I'm not finding it fun either, even though 2 didn't offer a lot of options ( for people who played as soldiers and didn't want to use anything but guns), enemies were fun to shoot and it seems like the animations and physics were better too. So far those Cerberus troops seem quite boring, they just throw grenades or mount turrets, Grissom Academy in particular felt like a MP match disguised as SP at times.
The Blue suns mercenaries and the others in 2 had cool mechs and seemed more reactive according to where you choose to shoot them or with what. I can't rip the legs off of husks any longer either. Where's the tactical shooting Bioware talked about? When somebody hears this they can only expect better than what they got with ME2... I even got to shoot an atlas already and I dunno, I hope I can rip their arms off or something like with YMIR mechs, shooting the pilot took ages and controlling them was meh... But I guess what bothers me the most is the RPG elements they removed and the amazing characters from 2 not playing a big role in this, also given the curernt state of NPC interactions I suspect it will be mostly shooting throughout the game.
I'm feeling pretty bored of it atm tbh.
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It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. For the record, I really enjoy ME3 and feel that it has been unfairly railed on by negative nancies like you're coming across as right now. I've replayed it several times, constructing the story a little bit differently each time... and I've enjoyed it each time.
I have a philosophy though... I play video games to have fun. If I"m not having fun, I stop playing that game and move onto a game I do find fun. There are many games I've purchased (or, more likely, been given) that I haven't completed... and I don't regret not completing them and moving onto something I enjoyed much better. So, that's my advice. If you're not enjoying ME3, don't complete it. Move onto something else that you do enjoy.
ETA: OP - You are already at a point in the game where the gameplay style and conversation style is not going to suddenly change. Leveling up, of course, will develop more powers and you will find a few different guns to try out, but that's probably not going to be a big enough change for you to start enjoying it. The story is what it is... if it's not getting any of your interest now, it probably won't grab you down the road. The genophage arc mentioned by another poster above is, IMO, the best story arc in the game... actually in the entire Trilogy - but given how negative you sound about everything, I'm not convinced that alone would be worth your while to continue. As I said, I liked the game and still enjoy playing it... but not everyone is destined to like it... I accept that.
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Post by Iakus on Dec 17, 2016 15:13:21 GMT
It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. Or...OP is having the same problems a bunch of other people have had and is (coincidentally) voicing those same comments! |
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Post by themikefest on Dec 17, 2016 15:23:51 GMT
It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. It almost sounds like you're just posting to complain about "here we go again with another player complaining about ME3" by assuming the poster has read all negative reviews, posts etc. |
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It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. Or...OP is having the same problems a bunch of other people have had and is (coincidentally) voicing those same comments! Don't get your panties in a twist. I'm saying that if the OP is so negative on the game now, they should probably quit and move on... before they get locked into spending their lives on a forum complaining about a game they just never liked. As I said, I have encountered many games I just haven't liked. My solution is to just quit playing those games... and you'll never see me on those forums. In my experience... if you start out not liking anything about something, you'll probably never be able to convince yourself to like it. Sticking with it, waiting for it to just "get better" when you're not prepared to be open minded enough to allow you to see it as "getting better" is a pretty futile exercise. If the OP can find something that he likes about the game, then it might be worthwhile for him to continue to play to see if it gets better for him... but with liking nothing to start with, odds are, for him, he's just not ever going to see it as getting any better. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2016 15:25:58 GMT
It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. It almost sounds like you're just posting to complain about "here we go again with another player complaining about ME3" by assuming the poster has read all negative reviews, posts etc. Read my post to lakus above. From the OP's comments, it is obvious that the OP does not like ANYTHING about ME3. That's his right... he doesn't have to like it. I'm giving the OP my advice. If you don't like something that much... don't torture yourself by "sticking with it" waiting for it to get better. Games are optional activities, played for enjoyment. Play the ones you enjoy. |
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Post by edfftw on Dec 17, 2016 18:37:11 GMT
It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. For the record, I really enjoy ME3 and feel that it has been unfairly railed on by negative nancies like you're coming across as right now. I've replayed it several times, constructing the story a little bit differently each time... and I've enjoyed it each time. I guess you just enjoy the shooting parts immensely, I personally like to go around and do non shooting related quests and having plenty of NPCs to interact with, that's what pulls me into the game, without it it just feels like a semi clunky shooter with RPG elements. I'd still play it for the shooting but the enemies so far feel kind of generic. I think I'll still play a few more missions and see If it gets better but the hub is also a huge bummer, I thought It'd feel more alive with the NPCs moving around but it feels the opposite, even the bar sucks lol, and instead of further exploring interactions they get trashed. Even when you can interact with an NPC, full decisions feel more like half full decisions. |
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It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. For the record, I really enjoy ME3 and feel that it has been unfairly railed on by negative nancies like you're coming across as right now. I've replayed it several times, constructing the story a little bit differently each time... and I've enjoyed it each time. I guess you just enjoy the shooting parts immensely, I personally like to go around and do non shooting related quests and having plenty of NPCs to interact with, that's what pulls me into the game, without it it just feels like a semi clunky shooter with RPG elements. I'd still play it for the shooting but the enemies so far feel kind of generic. I think I'll still play a few more missions and see If it gets better but the hub is also a huge bummer, I thought It'd feel more alive with the NPCs moving around but it feels the opposite, even the bar sucks lol, and instead of further exploring interactions they get trashed. Even when you can interact with an NPC, full decisions feel more like half full decisions. Now you're more interested in making assumptions about what I like and don't like Try focusing on your question... and hear this - How the game play is in ME3 is not going to magically change halfway through ME3 just because you don't like it. So, if you don't like it... don't continue playing it. |
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It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. For the record, I really enjoy ME3 and feel that it has been unfairly railed on by negative nancies like you're coming across as right now. I've replayed it several times, constructing the story a little bit differently each time... and I've enjoyed it each time. I guess you just enjoy the shooting parts immensely, I personally like to go around and do non shooting related quests and having plenty of NPCs to interact with, that's what pulls me into the game, without it it just feels like a semi clunky shooter with RPG elements. I'd still play it for the shooting but the enemies so far feel kind of generic. I think I'll still play a few more missions and see If it gets better but the hub is also a huge bummer, I thought It'd feel more alive with the NPCs moving around but it feels the opposite, even the bar sucks lol, and instead of further exploring interactions they get trashed. Even when you can interact with an NPC, full decisions feel more like half full decisions. Fun fact ME 2's shooting is even less polished then ME3's. |
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Post by Darth Dennis on Dec 17, 2016 19:01:41 GMT
It gets better at the Tuchanka and Rannoch parts, then downhill again from there. Give it a try, and if it's still not your thing, you don't have to carry on.
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Post by edfftw on Dec 17, 2016 19:10:19 GMT
I guess you just enjoy the shooting parts immensely, I personally like to go around and do non shooting related quests and having plenty of NPCs to interact with, that's what pulls me into the game, without it it just feels like a semi clunky shooter with RPG elements. I'd still play it for the shooting but the enemies so far feel kind of generic. I think I'll still play a few more missions and see If it gets better but the hub is also a huge bummer, I thought It'd feel more alive with the NPCs moving around but it feels the opposite, even the bar sucks lol, and instead of further exploring interactions they get trashed. Even when you can interact with an NPC, full decisions feel more like half full decisions. Now you're more interested in making assumptions about what I like and don't like Try focusing on your question... and hear this - How the game play is in ME3 is not going to magically change halfway through ME3 just because you don't like it. So, if you don't like it... don't continue playing it. Actually I can almost bet you never really played or finished a decent RPG in your life or a shooter with decent controls for that matter, how's that for assumptions? No need to act so defensive about a game, you sound like you need to install an heatsink to help you cooldown no offense. If somebody doesn't like the shooting parts in this game immensely, then what else? Also according to you my impressions aren't gonna change and the characters/dialogue/shooting are supposed to remain as bland as they are now, so I ask you what makes you love it so much? maybe I'll end up loving it too for the same reasons. |
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Post by edfftw on Dec 17, 2016 19:16:51 GMT
Fun fact ME 2's shooting is even less polished then ME3's. Yes and no imo, even though the combat controls offer more variety and seem more responsive, they still feel somewhat clunky specially against the faster paced enemies who also ambush you frequently this time, but that's not the issue I have with combat, it's the enemies. Can you blow husks legs away like in 2 or rip an arm off from the Atlas and such? |
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Post by Iakus on Dec 17, 2016 19:16:55 GMT
It almost sounds to me llke you've read every negative comment about the game out there and have dumped it into your post here. It almost sounds like you're just posting to complain about "here we go again with another player complaining about ME3" by assuming the poster has read all negative reviews, posts etc. That's certainly the impression I got. Complaining about complaints is far more valid than complaining about the game itself.  |
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Post by shechinah on Dec 17, 2016 19:22:07 GMT
... I'm feeling pretty bored of it atm tbh. Yeah, I don't think you're going to have much fun with Mass Effect 3 since most of what makes up the game seems to be what you dislike.
If you want to, I suggest that perhaps you could finish Tuchanka on the off-chance that you might find that you like those portions of the story enough to find it worth sitting through the rest of the game. If not, I suggest leaving this one be and, if you are interested, checking out Mass Effect: Andromeda. Maybe it'll be more to your liking otherwise there's always the previous installments in the trilogy that you can replay
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 17, 2016 19:25:46 GMT
Fun fact ME 2's shooting is even less polished then ME3's. Yes and no imo, even though the combat controls offer more variety and seem more responsive, they still feel somewhat clunky specially against the faster paced enemies who also ambush you frequently this time, but that's not the issue I have with combat, it's the enemies. Can you blow husks legs away like in 2 or rip an arm off from the Atlas and such? What does blowing a husk's leg off have to do with anything? No you can't rip an arm off an Atlas. How ever with right Sniper Rifle (Widow, Black Widow, Javelin) You can break the cockpit screen and kill the guy controlling it. Thus allowing you to hijack the Atlas for yourself. |
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 17, 2016 19:28:59 GMT
... I'm feeling pretty bored of it atm tbh. Yeah, I don't think you're going to have much fun with Mass Effect 3 since most of what makes up the game seems to be what you dislike.
If you want to, I suggest that perhaps you could finish Tuchanka on the off-chance that you might find that you like those portions of the story enough to find it worth sitting through the rest of the game. If not, I suggest leaving this one be and, if you are interested, checking out Mass Effect: Andromeda. Maybe it'll be more to your liking otherwise there's always the previous installments in the trilogy that you can replay
Didn't they say they were pretty much using ME3's combat system in ME:A. With a few changes obvious for the new game. If he doesn't like ME 3's he won't like ME:A's. |
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Post by shechinah on Dec 17, 2016 19:33:41 GMT
Or...OP is having the same problems a bunch of other people have had and is (coincidentally) voicing those same comments! Don't get your panties in a twist. I'm saying that if the OP is so negative on the game now, they should probably quit and move on... before they get locked into spending their lives on a forum complaining about a game they just never liked. As I said, I have encountered many games I just haven't liked. My solution is to just quit playing those games... and you'll never see me on those forums. And previously you were also saying that you felt like OP was coming across like a negative nancy who was unfairly railing on the game. Oh and that you've enjoyed the game each time. The rest of your post was really great, the top part kind of has you come across as someone calling someone else names for not liking the same game as you.
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Post by shechinah on Dec 17, 2016 19:35:53 GMT
Yes and no imo, even though the combat controls offer more variety and seem more responsive, they still feel somewhat clunky specially against the faster paced enemies who also ambush you frequently this time, but that's not the issue I have with combat, it's the enemies. Can you blow husks legs away like in 2 or rip an arm off from the Atlas and such? What does blowing a husk's leg off have to do with anything? No you can't rip an arm off an Atlas. How ever with right Sniper Rifle (Widow, Black Widow, Javelin) You can break the cockpit screen and kill the guy controlling it. Thus allowing you to hijack the Atlas for yourself. You know, I always thought that hijacking an Atlas was restricted to the Grissom Academy mission because I could never pull it off afterwards. I have always wound up destroying the Atlas, I always use a sniper rifle and target the cockpit. Is there a trick to it? |
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Post by shechinah on Dec 17, 2016 19:38:37 GMT
Yeah, I don't think you're going to have much fun with Mass Effect 3 since most of what makes up the game seems to be what you dislike.
If you want to, I suggest that perhaps you could finish Tuchanka on the off-chance that you might find that you like those portions of the story enough to find it worth sitting through the rest of the game. If not, I suggest leaving this one be and, if you are interested, checking out Mass Effect: Andromeda. Maybe it'll be more to your liking otherwise there's always the previous installments in the trilogy that you can replay
Didn't they say they were pretty much using ME3's combat system in ME:A. With a few changes obvious for the new game. If he doesn't like ME 3's he won't like ME:A's. Yeah but I think there's always been more about a breakable enviroment and that sort of thing because they're using the Frostbite engine. Was a long time ago so I might have it wrong and I am on blackout, so I'm not keeping up on information. It's why I advised OP to check it out if they're interested: basically, so they can see for themselves if it's anything interested to them. I've heard there's a gameplay video out so maybe they can check that one out? |
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 17, 2016 19:45:16 GMT
What does blowing a husk's leg off have to do with anything? No you can't rip an arm off an Atlas. How ever with right Sniper Rifle (Widow, Black Widow, Javelin) You can break the cockpit screen and kill the guy controlling it. Thus allowing you to hijack the Atlas for yourself. You know, I always thought that hijacking an Atlas was restricted to the Grissom Academy mission because I could never pull it off afterwards. I have always wound up destroying the Atlas, I always use a sniper rifle and target the cockpit. Is there a trick to it? Seems like in a few places it is restricted. That being said every round needs to be fired at the center of the cock pit. About were the pilot sits. Shots from the side do not count. And you basically have to do it from the second the shield drops. Because doing so you usually end up with an Atlas that has half or less health. Generally it took my Infiltrator 2-3 shots to the front of the screen with a Black Widow to break the screen and another round to kill the guy. It has to have AP capability. Be it from mod or ammo bonus or inherent capability. Someone doing it on Eden Prime for with Ashes DLC And Priority Citadel 2 |
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Dec 17, 2016 19:49:56 GMT
Didn't they say they were pretty much using ME3's combat system in ME:A. With a few changes obvious for the new game. If he doesn't like ME 3's he won't like ME:A's. Yeah but I think there's always been more about a breakable enviroment and that sort of thing because they're using the Frostbite engine. Was a long time ago so I might have it wrong and I am on blackout, so I'm not keeping up on information. It's why I advised OP to check it out if they're interested: basically, so they can see for themselves if it's anything interested to them. I've heard there's a gameplay video out so maybe they can check that one out? OP is complaining about combat in the game. ME:A is taking the same combat of ME3 and using it. A few tweaks and such but still the same over all combat system. Less of a jump between ME3 and ME:A then between ME and ME2 or ME2 and ME3. |
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Post by shechinah on Dec 17, 2016 20:26:37 GMT
Yeah but I think there's always been more about a breakable enviroment and that sort of thing because they're using the Frostbite engine. Was a long time ago so I might have it wrong and I am on blackout, so I'm not keeping up on information. It's why I advised OP to check it out if they're interested: basically, so they can see for themselves if it's anything interested to them. I've heard there's a gameplay video out so maybe they can check that one out? OP is complaining about combat in the game. ME:A is taking the same combat of ME3 and using it. A few tweaks and such but still the same over all combat system. Less of a jump between ME3 and ME:A then between ME and ME2 or ME2 and ME3. Oh, okay, never mind then. |
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Post by dmc1001 on Dec 17, 2016 20:38:05 GMT
I love ME3. If it's dramatic, well, it's probably because the Reapers have invaded and everyone is going to die unless Shepard succeeds. I do think Cerberus had far too much focus but you can probably connect some dots after seeing the huskified Cerberus soldier on Mars. Clearly, Cerberus isn't entirely human anymore. The IFF mission in ME2 tells you what happens when organics spend any length of time around Reaper tech.
Things I love about ME3: Tuchanka missions, Leviathan (a DLC), choosing an old squad member from ME1 as my LI in ME3, taking said LI with me everywhere as soon as it becomes possible, Citadel DLC (plenty of people hate it but I loved it), setting boots on Earth at last. The story is just interesting to me. That's why I played and loved it.
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Post by themikefest on Dec 17, 2016 21:27:21 GMT
You know, I always thought that hijacking an Atlas was restricted to the Grissom Academy mission because I could never pull it off afterwards. I have always wound up destroying the Atlas, I always use a sniper rifle and target the cockpit. Is there a trick to it? Want an easy way? Once you gain control of Shepard, at the beginning of the Cronos mission, run to where the atlas is at on the left. You will see the Cerberus guy heading towards the atlas. Shoot him or use biotics. |
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