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Post by blah23 on Dec 29, 2016 10:10:27 GMT
There isn't going to be a brothel. Let's just get that out of the way. Zero chance of happening. That said, just for the sake of discussion let's assume for a moment that there would be one. I'd hope they'd spent resources developing the location & the characters within to be more than just the player character exchanging credits for a lame cutscene or fade-to-black with some nameless and forgettable character. Otherwise, the brothel is completely pointless and a waste of time and development resources. Anyone watch Westworld? If there was going to be a brothel, I hope there'd be a character at least as developed as Westworld's Maeve, with a quest (or a chain of them) associated with the brothel or with one of the people working there. no Bioware does not have the balls to make a real RPG game like the Witcher 3 Having a brothel doesn't make a great game. |
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Post by extremegamer on Dec 29, 2016 10:44:45 GMT
no Bioware does not have the balls to make a real RPG game like the Witcher 3 Having a brothel doesn't make a great game. well being some stupid ass space play land with a character that is a blank slate and has no soul is not a game more like a kid in a very large play land where one pretends to be a captain of a starship |
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 29, 2016 11:11:33 GMT
The Withcer 3 is better than any Bioware game since ME2, but it has nothing to do with courage, it has to do with The Witcher's development team great talent and their unnatural capacity for technical prowess.
That said, Bioware is way more shy in some aspects. But that's only a problem if you pretend your game have Game of Thrones' tone while it doesn't, which was the case in DAI. The war in that game is as simple as wars in a film like Star Wars, but they want you to believe they are showing war the way it really is.
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Post by fialka on Dec 29, 2016 17:11:31 GMT
Why are some people so fixated on brothels every time an RPG comes out? MAI IMERSION they say. Which never made sense to me. How many gamers' lives actually include sex with prostitutes? Do they live in areas where there are just brothels on every street corner, right across from the grocery store? Can you really not be satisfied or immersed if there are no visible brothels in a game? It's like some randy twelve-year-old's vision of what the "real world" is like. Maybe BioWare should include a realistic brothel, where it's clear that the employees are poor and exploited, and there either because they have no other choice or were victims of sex trafficking. I'm sure the "brothel crowd" would love how it added to their immersion.  So much this. I've lived in big cities, and have walked through the parts filled with dingy strip clubs and prostitutes selling themselves. There's nothing quaint or sexy or fun about it. Could such an environment have a place in a sci-fi game? Sure, but if they're going to do it, make it realistic, instead of just putting it there for the sake of including some tawdry mini-game. You want to hire a prostitute, go ahead. But make it clear he or she got roped into that life because of a drug addiction or desperation. Or does it stop being immersive when it stops being 'fun'? Not saying sex workers who choose that life don't exist, but you're not going to find them at your village brothel in the alley behind the fish market. And what is with people wanting Bioware games to be more like the Witcher? Aren't they totally different games? Personally, I did not like The Witcher at all, and if being 'more like the Witcher' means I'm stuck playing some non-customizable pre-determined old man with a set personality I'll pass, thanks. Not saying The Witcher's a bad game. I bet it's great - but it doesn't appeal to me at all. And I would think that what makes the game great for so many people isn't just the fact that it has brothels and hawt women, despite that being my impression from the majority of BSNers who praise it. Also, I'm not sure what balls have to do with it. Whenever people talk about The Witcher being somehow 'mature' the sexual content and the brothels are often cited as reasons why. Again, I only watched someone else play a bit of the game, so I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and assume there's more to it than that. But having people 'do it' in a game doesn't make it mature. |
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Post by derrame on Dec 29, 2016 17:24:16 GMT
There isn't going to be a brothel. Let's just get that out of the way. Zero chance of happening. That said, just for the sake of discussion let's assume for a moment that there would be one. I'd hope they'd spent resources developing the location & the characters within to be more than just the player character exchanging credits for a lame cutscene or fade-to-black with some nameless and forgettable character. Otherwise, the brothel is completely pointless and a waste of time and development resources. Anyone watch Westworld? If there was going to be a brothel, I hope there'd be a character at least as developed as Westworld's Maeve, with a quest (or a chain of them) associated with the brothel or with one of the people working there. exactly, just like the witcher 3 anyway, if there is a brothl, the location and characters chould be also developed, to give more conetext in the new planet, for everything will be new, maybe there is a brothel but in a new unknown galaxy, going to that place can be... problematic |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2016 17:33:12 GMT
<snip> And what is with people wanting Bioware games to be more like the Witcher? Aren't they totally different games? Personally, I did not like The Witcher at all, and if being 'more like the Witcher' means I'm stuck playing some non-customizable pre-determined old man with a set personality I'll pass, thanks. Not saying The Witcher's a bad game. I bet it's great - but it doesn't appeal to me at all. And I would think that what makes the game great for so many people isn't just the fact that it has brothels and hawt women, despite that being my impression from the majority of BSNers who praise it. <snip> I cannot agree with this more. I played the Witcher 2 and just never got into it. The combat wasn't to my liking and I just never felt any connection to Geralt as a character. Just not for me. I've never played the Witcher 3 and I have no desire to. So the last thing that I want is for Bioware games to become more like that franchise. I'm sure some people would be thrilled if that happened. But not me and many other long-time loyal Bioware fans. I don't mind them drawing a few elements from successful peer games. But this desire to equate everything back to the Witcher is mind boggling. I try hard not to eyeroll and scoff everytime someone goes, "Make it like the Witcher", but it remains hard to do. Especially when the "Make it like the Witcher" suggestions are almost always in relation to sexy digital ladies. |
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Post by midnightwolf on Dec 29, 2016 17:54:40 GMT
<snip> And what is with people wanting Bioware games to be more like the Witcher? Aren't they totally different games? Personally, I did not like The Witcher at all, and if being 'more like the Witcher' means I'm stuck playing some non-customizable pre-determined old man with a set personality I'll pass, thanks. Not saying The Witcher's a bad game. I bet it's great - but it doesn't appeal to me at all. And I would think that what makes the game great for so many people isn't just the fact that it has brothels and hawt women, despite that being my impression from the majority of BSNers who praise it. <snip> I cannot agree with this more. I played the Witcher 2 and just never got into it. The combat wasn't to my liking and I just never felt any connection to Geralt as a character. Just not for me. I've never played the Witcher 3 and I have no desire to. So the last thing that I want is for Bioware games to become more like that franchise. I'm sure some people would be thrilled if that happened. But not me and many other long-time loyal Bioware fans. I don't mind them drawing a few elements from successful peer games. But this desire to equate everything back to the Witcher is mind boggling. I try hard not to eyeroll and scoff everytime someone goes, "Make it like the Witcher", but it remains hard to do. Especially when the "Make it like the Witcher" suggestions are almost always in relation to sexy digital ladies. ^This^ If Bioware ever go The Witcher route, I will stop buying their games. I like Bioware games for the role play and replay ability....and that is NOT The Witcher! |
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Post by KaiserShep on Dec 29, 2016 18:23:57 GMT
<snip> And what is with people wanting Bioware games to be more like the Witcher? Aren't they totally different games? Personally, I did not like The Witcher at all, and if being 'more like the Witcher' means I'm stuck playing some non-customizable pre-determined old man with a set personality I'll pass, thanks. Not saying The Witcher's a bad game. I bet it's great - but it doesn't appeal to me at all. And I would think that what makes the game great for so many people isn't just the fact that it has brothels and hawt women, despite that being my impression from the majority of BSNers who praise it. <snip> I cannot agree with this more. I played the Witcher 2 and just never got into it. The combat wasn't to my liking and I just never felt any connection to Geralt as a character. Just not for me. I've never played the Witcher 3 and I have no desire to. So the last thing that I want is for Bioware games to become more like that franchise. I'm sure some people would be thrilled if that happened. But not me and many other long-time loyal Bioware fans. I don't mind them drawing a few elements from successful peer games. But this desire to equate everything back to the Witcher is mind boggling. I try hard not to eyeroll and scoff everytime someone goes, "Make it like the Witcher", but it remains hard to do. Especially when the "Make it like the Witcher" suggestions are almost always in relation to sexy digital ladies. The only things that I feel BioWare could take from the Witcher playbook is more on the technical side, since there's definitely more polish to the game and the way its playable world is assembled. As for stuff like sideplots and such, they don't need TW for that. They have their own body of work to go back to, which has plenty of great examples of how to get off the main narrative. |
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Post by SofNascimento on Dec 29, 2016 18:46:53 GMT
I cannot agree with this more. I played the Witcher 2 and just never got into it. The combat wasn't to my liking and I just never felt any connection to Geralt as a character. Just not for me. I've never played the Witcher 3 and I have no desire to. So the last thing that I want is for Bioware games to become more like that franchise. I'm sure some people would be thrilled if that happened. But not me and many other long-time loyal Bioware fans. I don't mind them drawing a few elements from successful peer games. But this desire to equate everything back to the Witcher is mind boggling. I try hard not to eyeroll and scoff everytime someone goes, "Make it like the Witcher", but it remains hard to do. Especially when the "Make it like the Witcher" suggestions are almost always in relation to sexy digital ladies. The only things that I feel BioWare could take from the Witcher playbook is more on the technical side, since there's definitely more polish to the game and the way its playable world is assembled. As for stuff like sideplots and such, they don't need TW for that. They have their own body of work to go back to, which has plenty of great examples of how to get off the main narrative. That's correct. TW3 deserves a lot of praise, but its quests were nothing we have not seen way back in Baldur's Gate 2, for example. However, when it comes to worldbuilding, both the technical aspect and the quality of the world, TW3 is so far ahead of DAI (which the obvious comparison) that it's not even funny. I mean, the difference in the technical aspect is big, but the difference in how real the world feels is massive. I mean, Dragon Age idea of a great tavern is a space with chairs, people drinking and 10 codex entries talking just how cool that place is. The Witcher 3 just create an incredible tavern and that's it. Let's not even go into the difference between Val Royeaux and Novigrad. Mass Effect did a god job with its world, but now it's a new generationa TW3 showed what can be accomplished. I think Andromeda will do a good enough job, not as grand as TW3's world, but better than Inquisition. |
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Post by Fen'Harel Faceman on Dec 30, 2016 13:52:43 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Bioware adds a brothel into the setting of the game. I'm expecting there to be a brothel. I'm automatically assuming there will be one. To not have a brothel would be a slap in the face.  |
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Post by Sartoz on Dec 30, 2016 14:42:27 GMT
ME1 had a brothel, so it's not unprecedented. I don't consider Shaira and friends a brothel, for the reasons already discussed to death in this thread. She was more a high class courtesan (with sex being one of many options if one pays for her time) and the other girls seemed to play a role similar to that of geisha in Japan - they were there for entertainment, conversation, and so on. It's never confirmed they provide sex. Regardless, we the player did not have the option to hire them like we did in the first two DA games - selection menu included. Considering we're talking content options for players of various orientations, I get the impression that is the type of brothel the OP (and others) are hoping for. For that, specifically, there is no precedent in ME. Personally, I find the brothel thing a juvenile form of titillation that takes up resources I'd prefer be used elsewhere. That said, if there is one, whatever. I'll got there if a mission demands it but it's not something I'll ever use. ° 。 ° ˛˚˛ * _Π_____*。*˚ ˚ ˛ •˛•˚ */______/~＼。˚ ˚ ˛ ˚ ˛ •˛• ˚ ｜ 田田 ｜門｜ ˚Have a happy new year!
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Post by Vall on Dec 30, 2016 16:35:31 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Bioware adds a brothel into the setting of the game. I'm expecting there to be a brothel. I'm automatically assuming there will be one. To not have a brothel would be a slap in the face. What the f...  I'm scared. |
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Dec 30, 2016 18:15:04 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Bioware adds a brothel into the setting of the game. I'm expecting there to be a brothel. I'm automatically assuming there will be one. To not have a brothel would be a slap in the face. RIP Engineer Adams, 21XX-2185 "You served well to the Alliance (not, really)" |
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Post by Sifr on Dec 30, 2016 20:34:16 GMT
Er...I don't? I only asked why there are no male desire demons. I didn't infer anything about the game's audience, you know.  It strikes me as odd, since it's only natural this peculiar kind of demon would pick up the sexual fantasies of both gay men and straight women and change into a form that would appeal to their tastes. Instead, the way there are only naked female demons parading around, it's as if everyone in Thedas is either a gay lady or a straight dude. Which means straight Thedosian men couldn't actually have sex with Thedosian women. lol And btw, I agree with your idea there. For example, I would've liked to see a nice, male demon tempting my Solona during that quest to save Connor. That would've presented an actual challenge to me. Screw the sexy demon or save a child's soul? I don't know if I could do the right thing as I stared at them strong, finely chiseled biceps... Dorian mentions encountering a male Desire Demon in the Fade, so they can take that form, even though we've never seen one (yet). |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2016 22:59:39 GMT
Er...I don't? I only asked why there are no male desire demons. I didn't infer anything about the game's audience, you know. It strikes me as odd, since it's only natural this peculiar kind of demon would pick up the sexual fantasies of both gay men and straight women and change into a form that would appeal to their tastes. Instead, the way there are only naked female demons parading around, it's as if everyone in Thedas is either a gay lady or a straight dude. Which means straight Thedosian men couldn't actually have sex with Thedosian women. lol And btw, I agree with your idea there. For example, I would've liked to see a nice, male demon tempting my Solona during that quest to save Connor. That would've presented an actual challenge to me. Screw the sexy demon or save a child's soul? I don't know if I could do the right thing as I stared at them strong, finely chiseled biceps... Dorian mentions encountering a male Desire Demon in the Fade, so they can take that form, even though we've never seen one (yet). DA:I had one actually, though he preferred to go by "choice spirit."  |
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Post by Lorn on Jan 1, 2017 12:02:49 GMT
no Bioware does not have the balls to make a real RPG game like the Witcher 3 Having a brothel doesn't make a great game. No, having tits and interactive sex scenes make a great game. It's almost like you never played The Witcher 3... |
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Post by ioannisdenton on Jan 4, 2017 8:33:40 GMT
It will be interesting to see how Bioware adds a brothel into the setting of the game. I'm expecting there to be a brothel. I'm automatically assuming there will be one. To not have a brothel would be a slap in the face. All great RPGs have a brothel or similar concept. Mass effect one had a brothel.  I'm not asking for something NEW nor am i asking for special privileges. The brothel can be a place to offer interesting characters & content for straight, gay or lesbian gamers. (For anyone wondering there was a brothel in Mass Effect 1: masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Shaira - but it was very upscale and offered other services). the sign of blooming rose in dragon age 2 comes to mind. it was in later playthroughs i really noticed the sign |
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 5, 2017 11:42:21 GMT
I do not understand why people making a big deal out of it it it's just a brothel
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Post by shepherdcommander on Mar 5, 2017 14:03:37 GMT
did someone say space aids?
of the space brothel, I do approve. mostly asari, sure, but offer krogans and salarians and humans of all shapes sizes and orientations for all players. let the space aids flow through you.
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Post by _Wolf Rider_ on Mar 5, 2017 14:05:50 GMT
Hmm space brothel but only if it has Krogans, why? Some of those ingame NPC's may need there sweet sweet Krogan action.
Ok in truth and all joking aside, when it comes down to it, it really does not matter to me if the game has a brothel or not.
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Post by cloud9 on Mar 7, 2017 13:45:45 GMT
Their SJW agenda does not allow it, even if it was perfectly fair with men and women selling their bodies. I don't see what the big deal is neither. |
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Post by ATR16 on Mar 7, 2017 17:17:20 GMT
Anything that lets me play a character who isn't a goody two shoes is a good thing. I like renegade because you got to be a dick and intimidate. In DAO, and a lesser extent DA2 as well, you could play a big asshole or a total degen and still get things accomplished.
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