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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 20, 2016 7:12:03 GMT
I know, I know.. It's not possible. I just wanted to gripe a bit though. Again. I haven't played even remotely close to how much some (most?) of you guys have, but still. I started out on the 360 and played some. I clocked about 145 hours and got some (for me at least) nice unlocks. Particularly some classes. I don't remember when I ended up quitting/taking a long break but I don't even think all the MP DLC's were released. Anyways. Fast forward to ME:A getting closer and I got the itch to play some again. Figured that I'd get ME3 for PC since I won't be getting an XBONE or PS4 and I wanted to be able to play all of the games on the same platform. How I miss some of my classes when trying out ME3MP on the PC.. The Quarian Female Engineer used to be one of my favorites for instance but we all know that unlocking one particular class is a bit time consuming due to the RNG gods. I kind of wish that all the classes were unlocked by default so that you could focus on gear, weapons and appearances for the classes instead. It's annoying not to be able to play some of your favorites without having to sink quite a few hours into it. Especially when I don't have nearly as much time to play these days either. Oh well.. End of rant!
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Post by leafspring on Dec 20, 2016 7:57:38 GMT
I kind of wish that all the classes were unlocked by default so that you could focus on gear, weapons and appearances for the classes instead. It's annoying not to be able to play some of your favorites without having to sink quite a few hours into it. Especially when I don't have nearly as much time to play these days either. To be honest, at this time in the games lifecycle, they should've just unlocked everything by default. There's no way anyone who hasn't unlocked everything will do so before the game is undoubtedly shutdown when MEA hits. I currently have ~210 hours on record, am nowhere near all the unlocks and with the way the shop is set up (duplicates, duplicates everywhere) I never will. And I spent a bit of money back in the day, so I'm even somewhat ahead of people that haven't. And I still can't play the classes exactly the way I want because some things are missing...
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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 20, 2016 9:05:27 GMT
I kind of wish that all the classes were unlocked by default so that you could focus on gear, weapons and appearances for the classes instead. It's annoying not to be able to play some of your favorites without having to sink quite a few hours into it. Especially when I don't have nearly as much time to play these days either. To be honest, at this time in the games lifecycle, they should've just unlocked everything by default. There's no way anyone who hasn't unlocked everything will do so before the game is undoubtedly shutdown when MEA hits. I currently have ~210 hours on record, am nowhere near all the unlocks and with the way the shop is set up (duplicates, duplicates everywhere) I never will. And I spent a bit of money back in the day, so I'm even somewhat ahead of people that haven't. And I still can't play the classes exactly the way I want because some things are missing... I actually don't think they'll shut it down when MEA arrives. Since they don't actively support it anymore it probably won't cost them much to keep it alive and as long as there are a few players around.. well.. they can still earn some money from people buying packs however unlikely? But yeah, I'd love to see them unlocking it all. It's not like I would spend any money at it this close to MEA but I might end up playing some though. Especially if I could play what I want to play.
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Post by leafspring on Dec 20, 2016 9:36:07 GMT
To be honest, at this time in the games lifecycle, they should've just unlocked everything by default. There's no way anyone who hasn't unlocked everything will do so before the game is undoubtedly shutdown when MEA hits. I currently have ~210 hours on record, am nowhere near all the unlocks and with the way the shop is set up (duplicates, duplicates everywhere) I never will. And I spent a bit of money back in the day, so I'm even somewhat ahead of people that haven't. And I still can't play the classes exactly the way I want because some things are missing... I actually don't think they'll shut it down when MEA arrives. Since they don't actively support it anymore it probably won't cost them much to keep it alive and as long as there are a few players around.. well.. they can still earn some money from people buying packs however unlikely? But yeah, I'd love to see them unlocking it all. It's not like I would spend any money at it this close to MEA but I might end up playing some though. Especially if I could play what I want to play. I don't think you're actually able to buy Bioware Points anymore and there's no other way to spend money on packs as far as I know (might be different on consoles, not sure). Add to that EA's track record with game servers and I'd wager it won't take long for them to shut it down. My guess'd be around September next year at max.
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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 20, 2016 10:18:24 GMT
You might be right.
I still hope they'll leave them running even after MEA drops. You never know when the urge to get back to it sneaks back.
But yeah, having everything unlocked would be a treat. (I'd settle for all classes in their basic look however. It might still be fun to unlock something sometimes.)
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Post by Heroicmass on Dec 20, 2016 13:01:54 GMT
just have one of the PC hackers give you unlimited credits. Manifest problems solved. Bioware isn't policing the game at all so feel free to hack away. No reason to slog through unlocking everything if you don't have to. Just be ready for a long time in the store.
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Post by inert on Dec 20, 2016 16:07:48 GMT
Personally, I find the unlocks kind of fun. When I moved from Xbox to PC over a year ago, I enjoyed the slog. just have one of the PC hackers give you unlimited credits. Manifest problems solved. Bioware isn't policing the game at all so feel free to hack away. No reason to slog through unlocking everything if you don't have to. Just be ready for a long time in the store. But this - no judgments. If you can't be bothered, you can go ahead and just unlock as much as you like. That said, you'd better bring it in a match. I've grown weary of maxed manifest PUGs who can't hold their own. I keep running out of OPS packs giving out freebies to these types.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 16:48:40 GMT
I think you will hear the exactly same complaints again when ME:A releases. It's hard to let go of something achieved previously, particularly when it will be essentially the same game for MP module, not unlike cross-platform transfer. In a way I am happy that I will not unlock the full manifest because the transition to the ME:A will not feel like I am losing stuff I have developed an attachment to.
The Game of Acquisition is a part of the excitement of the game. The credits are only useful as long as you can get stuff you want with it. They have value while you do not have the possessions you want to have. Yearning and craving for stuff is a large motivating factor in addition to having one hell of a time. If you start feeling that you can only be happy once X or Y occurs, generally it's good to just start acting like the X and Y had already occurred. It totally increases the contentment and enjoyment of any process that has goals and cheevos.
At least in ME3MP it is possible to have fun regardless of possessions, unlike many other games where not having access to possessions means that you are luggage & will be yelled at by other players.
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Post by patrickbateman on Dec 20, 2016 17:46:48 GMT
Personally, I find the unlocks kind of fun. When I moved from Xbox to PC over a year ago, I enjoyed the slog. just have one of the PC hackers give you unlimited credits. Manifest problems solved. Bioware isn't policing the game at all so feel free to hack away. No reason to slog through unlocking everything if you don't have to. Just be ready for a long time in the store. But this - no judgments. If you can't be bothered, you can go ahead and just unlock as much as you like. That said, you'd better bring it in a match. I've grown weary of maxed manifest PUGs who can't hold their own. I keep running out of OPS packs giving out freebies to these types. Yeah I always leave the lobby when I see a TGI/Harrier X pug with 2K CP readying up for a Platinum game since they in 99,99% of all games spend most of the time eating dirt.
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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 21, 2016 6:52:10 GMT
I think you will hear the exactly same complaints again when ME:A releases. It's hard to let go of something achieved previously, particularly when it will be essentially the same game for MP module, not unlike cross-platform transfer. In a way I am happy that I will not unlock the full manifest because the transition to the ME:A will not feel like I am losing stuff I have developed an attachment to. The Game of Acquisition is a part of the excitement of the game. The credits are only useful as long as you can get stuff you want with it. They have value while you do not have the possessions you want to have. Yearning and craving for stuff is a large motivating factor in addition to having one hell of a time. If you start feeling that you can only be happy once X or Y occurs, generally it's good to just start acting like the X and Y had already occurred. It totally increases the contentment and enjoyment of any process that has goals and cheevos. At least in ME3MP it is possible to have fun regardless of possessions, unlike many other games where not having access to possessions means that you are luggage & will be yelled at by other players. This is pretty much why I don't want to have everything unlocked, just the characters (or at least the characters I used to have). That way there's still plenty of guns to hope for.
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Post by BlackMage on Dec 21, 2016 9:29:45 GMT
For kits which rely on combos like the vanilla Human Adept, you don't need a decent manifest.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 13:33:12 GMT
I think you will hear the exactly same complaints again when ME:A releases. It's hard to let go of something achieved previously, particularly when it will be essentially the same game for MP module, not unlike cross-platform transfer. In a way I am happy that I will not unlock the full manifest because the transition to the ME:A will not feel like I am losing stuff I have developed an attachment to. The Game of Acquisition is a part of the excitement of the game. The credits are only useful as long as you can get stuff you want with it. They have value while you do not have the possessions you want to have. Yearning and craving for stuff is a large motivating factor in addition to having one hell of a time. If you start feeling that you can only be happy once X or Y occurs, generally it's good to just start acting like the X and Y had already occurred. It totally increases the contentment and enjoyment of any process that has goals and cheevos. At least in ME3MP it is possible to have fun regardless of possessions, unlike many other games where not having access to possessions means that you are luggage & will be yelled at by other players. This is pretty much why I don't want to have everything unlocked, just the characters (or at least the characters I used to have). That way there's still plenty of guns to hope for. Wanting kits vs wanting guns is exactly the same thing, and both desires go vs RNG. Is there a 99K pack weighed towards the kits like the Arsenal is weighed towards guns? It is probably easier than with the guns to get a kit you want, as you do not go against the mods and 10 iterations of every weapon you do not want, just against the kits table?
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Post by leafspring on Dec 21, 2016 14:33:52 GMT
This is pretty much why I don't want to have everything unlocked, just the characters (or at least the characters I used to have). That way there's still plenty of guns to hope for. Is there a 99K pack weighed towards the kits like the Arsenal is weighed towards guns? Yep, there is.
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Post by mordokai on Dec 21, 2016 20:11:00 GMT
Truth be told, I would be happy for everybody who is like OP, I really would. I can understand the frustration in knowing that you'll have to sink a good portion of your life(even if you'll likely end up having fun with most of that time), just to get something you wish. I've been there... we all have.
That said, I sank a good portion of *my* life into this game and I'm *this* fucking close to maxing manifest. Still might take me another 100 hours or so, but I'll get there. And if they ever just give everything to new people, I'll be just a little salty. Basic human jealousy and nothing more, but there you go.
There is also point that inert made. When you get to the maxed manifest the hard way... you've earned it. There are tangible, but not immediately obvious benefits to that. When I started, I was using Predator on my vanguards, since having maxed cooldown is the right way to play vanguards, you know? Charge as often, dominate the game!
Bronze alone will set you straight. When you get to Gold, you'll learn guns are worth far more than powers, on most classes. So you have three seconds shorter cooldown because you're using Claymore? Who fucking cares! You have a High Lord, blow their fucking heads away.
The point, without being too verbose... when you've bled and cried and cursed and cried and bled some more... you learn to appreciate what you've got. You'll start your Gold career with Juggernaut... pretty much all of us have. And juggy is a good class, no matter what you may hear. But once you try drell(any of them), or turian sentinel, or krogan or batarian soldier and learn to play them well... you'll feel the satisfaction you never would have if you just cheated your way to it.
Because you damn well fucking earned it. Any nobody can take that away from you.
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Post by inert on Dec 21, 2016 22:18:58 GMT
Yep, pretty well read, mordokai. Except most of us didn't start gold with the juggernaut - it didn't exist back then.
I started with the basic asari adept.
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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 22, 2016 6:52:43 GMT
Truth be told, I would be happy for everybody who is like OP, I really would. I can understand the frustration in knowing that you'll have to sink a good portion of your life(even if you'll likely end up having fun with most of that time), just to get something you wish. I've been there... we all have. That said, I sank a good portion of *my* life into this game and I'm *this* fucking close to maxing manifest. Still might take me another 100 hours or so, but I'll get there. And if they ever just give everything to new people, I'll be just a little salty. Basic human jealousy and nothing more, but there you go. There is also point that inert made. When you get to the maxed manifest the hard way... you've earned it. There are tangible, but not immediately obvious benefits to that. When I started, I was using Predator on my vanguards, since having maxed cooldown is the right way to play vanguards, you know? Charge as often, dominate the game! Bronze alone will set you straight. When you get to Gold, you'll learn guns are worth far more than powers, on most classes. So you have three seconds shorter cooldown because you're using Claymore? Who fucking cares! You have a High Lord, blow their fucking heads away. The point, without being too verbose... when you've bled and cried and cursed and cried and bled some more... you learn to appreciate what you've got. You'll start your Gold career with Juggernaut... pretty much all of us have. And juggy is a good class, no matter what you may hear. But once you try drell(any of them), or turian sentinel, or krogan or batarian soldier and learn to play them well... you'll feel the satisfaction you never would have if you just cheated your way to it. Because you damn well fucking earned it. Any nobody can take that away from you. Good points all along! And for the record.. I don't really want a maxed manifest.. I want to have things to unlock. I just want to have what I already did unlock on my xbox since I don't use it anymore. Trying to get it back would probabliy take at least 100+ hours and since they released more classes after I stopped playing I'd have even less of a chance to actually unlock those specific classes I used to have. Sure, I'd get other new fun stuff. But still. Especially since I wouldn't even have time to play every day and when I do, maybe just a game or two. It just makes sense to have it synced across all three platforms. I'd say that would make people more likely to keep playing when they for some reason or other had to switch platforms. And for the record, here are my (somewhat puny) manifests: 360 vs pc
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Post by Qui-Gon GlenN7 on Dec 22, 2016 23:46:18 GMT
Do you have an Arc Pistol? Do you have a Reegar? Do you have Lord Claymore? Do you have Mantis? ++++ None of the guns I mention are URs. If you have any of them, at any level, you can win. Just gotta aim. Well..... The Reegar doesn't need much aiming Buy Veteran Packs.
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Post by Nwalmenil on Dec 23, 2016 11:09:54 GMT
Do you have an Arc Pistol? Do you have a Reegar? Do you have Lord Claymore? Do you have Mantis? ++++ None of the guns I mention are URs. If you have any of them, at any level, you can win. Just gotta aim. Well..... The Reegar doesn't need much aiming Buy Veteran Packs. If those four, only the Mantis (at 9). But as I said, I don't really mind having to hunt for weapons.. I just want my classes that I'd gotten used to.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Dec 23, 2016 12:03:54 GMT
Do you have an Arc Pistol? Do you have a Reegar? Do you have Lord Claymore? Do you have Mantis? ++++ None of the guns I mention are URs. If you have any of them, at any level, you can win. Just gotta aim. Well..... The Reegar doesn't need much aiming Buy Veteran Packs. [X] I heartily endorse this product and/or service.
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