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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 0:52:27 GMT
wow. that sucks!! hopefully that means it can easily be patched in. cuz that preset alone is miles ahead of all the available ones in the current game. I know, it's so frustrating! I'd pretty much stop complaining about how lacklustre the CC is if I could simply play as her. I'd be content enough. I keep saying it, but people should tweet the BioWare staff like @tibermoon and @gamblemike about it. I've been doing so, and my current plan is basically to nag them repeatedly (every 1-2 days) until they finally respond to me, because that preset is stunning and in my opinion way better than anything currently in the game. But it would be way more effective if loads of people were tweeting them about it. well, I'm not on twitter, so I can't help your cause there.....lol. but yeah, I hope the devs respond to that question. if that was an old version of default Sara, then why change? If that was a preset in an old build, why remove it?
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 0:53:59 GMT
I know, it's so frustrating! I'd pretty much stop complaining about how lacklustre the CC is if I could simply play as her. I'd be content enough. I keep saying it, but people should tweet the BioWare staff like @tibermoon and @gamblemike about it. I've been doing so, and my current plan is basically to nag them repeatedly (every 1-2 days) until they finally respond to me, because that preset is stunning and in my opinion way better than anything currently in the game. But it would be way more effective if loads of people were tweeting them about it. well, I'm not on twitter, so I can't help your cause there.....lol. but yeah, I hope the devs respond to that question. if that was an old version of default Sara, then why change? If that was a preset in an old build, why remove it? Haha, I signed up for Twitter just to complain to the devs about this issue. I'll delete my account once it's (hopefully) resolved. I feel very passionately about the subject.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 1:00:38 GMT
well, I'm not on twitter, so I can't help your cause there.....lol. but yeah, I hope the devs respond to that question. if that was an old version of default Sara, then why change? If that was a preset in an old build, why remove it? Haha, I signed up for Twitter just to complain to the devs about this issue. I'll delete my account once it's (hopefully) resolved. I feel very passionately about the subject. hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol.
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Post by Dazzle on Mar 18, 2017 1:02:36 GMT
Haha, I signed up for Twitter just to complain to the devs about this issue. I'll delete my account once it's (hopefully) resolved. I feel very passionately about the subject. hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol. Is it possible at all that the vid is spoofed somehow to confuse people? I haven't watched yet and don't know the reputation of the youtuber in question.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 1:05:54 GMT
Haha, I signed up for Twitter just to complain to the devs about this issue. I'll delete my account once it's (hopefully) resolved. I feel very passionately about the subject. hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol. Yeah, I've thought about that too. The normal default Sara is in the video too, yet it looks like he just uses the quick start function to start the game when he ends up with this attractive one. The whole thing is baffling. It definitely deserves an explanation from the devs. hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol. Is it possible at all that the vid is spoofed somehow to confuse people? I haven't watched yet and don't know the reputation of the youtuber in question. No, it's way too convincing for that. It's a face with full expressions and animations throughout the whole prologue section of the game.
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Post by Dazzle on Mar 18, 2017 1:09:36 GMT
hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol. Yeah, I've thought about that too. The normal default Sara is in the video too, yet it looks like he just uses the quick start function to start the game when he ends up with this attractive one. The whole thing is baffling. It definitely deserves an explanation from the devs. Is it possible at all that the vid is spoofed somehow to confuse people? I haven't watched yet and don't know the reputation of the youtuber in question. No, it's way too convincing for that. It's a face with full expressions and animations throughout the whole prologue section of the game. Strange! Well I hope we get a proper explanation!
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 1:14:48 GMT
hah! that's passion!! anyways, I just watched more of that vid. it looks like he didn't use a custom Ryder. On the menu, he selected the option with Sarah Ryder in it instead of create your own character. Then the game loads up, and that "different" Sara Ryder model is there. so, the question is.......where did that come from? And older version of default Sara? How did that get in his game but not in others? When he was in the CC earlier in the vid, that default Sara looked more like the current default Sara. it doesn't make much sense......lol. Yeah, I've thought about that too. The normal default Sara is in the video too, yet it looks like he just uses the quick start function to start the game when he ends up with this attractive one. The whole thing is baffling. It definitely deserves an explanation from the devs. Is it possible at all that the vid is spoofed somehow to confuse people? I haven't watched yet and don't know the reputation of the youtuber in question. No, it's way too convincing for that. It's a face with full expressions and animations throughout the whole prologue section of the game. yeah. it needs to be explained. I'm now curious if other early players got that too. The vid is in French, so maybe it's an international thing? Players in certain regions might have gotten access to an older or different build somehow? regardless, it does need an explanation. And if that Ryder was indeed made from an existing preset, I want to know which one and I want sliders damnit!! lol edit: and I translated the Youtube comments into English. In the translated English, people were asking him how he got that Sara head. And he said it's CUSTOM!! He just cut the creation part out as he did it earlier?? that seems suspicious, cuz that custom face does not look like any of the current presets. and the comments are kind of hard to follow due to the imperfect translated English. definitely weird.
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 18, 2017 1:22:59 GMT
Comparison, for anyone who is interested: Current Default:'Mystery' Default: EDIT: It kind of looks like preset 1 to me, but I'm not sure. Or rather, it kind of looks like preset 1 from the side but not from the front.
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Post by timebean on Mar 18, 2017 1:23:16 GMT
Yeah, I've thought about that too. The normal default Sara is in the video too, yet it looks like he just uses the quick start function to start the game when he ends up with this attractive one. The whole thing is baffling. It definitely deserves an explanation from the devs. No, it's way too convincing for that. It's a face with full expressions and animations throughout the whole prologue section of the game. yeah. it needs to be explained. I'm now curious if other early players got that too. The vid is in French, so maybe it's an international thing? Players in certain regions might have gotten access to an older or different build somehow? regardless, it does need an explanation. And if that Ryder was indeed made from an existing preset, I want to know which one and I want sliders damnit!! lol edit: and I translated the Youtube comments into English. In the translated English, people were asking him how he got that Sara head. And he said it's CUSTOM!! He just cut the creation part out as he did it earlier?? that seems suspicious, cuz that custom face does not look like any of the current presets. definitely weird. If it is a custom build that we are able to do with the current CC, then maybe there is some hope for it (at least for what I would like to play). But I cannot see which preset option it would be. He must be a master at making something good outta poop! LOL!!! AArrgg..I wish he would have let us see daddy Ryder...then we would know which preset he used! EDITED - but looking at the comparison in the above post (thanks xMissWoox!), I agree that it is suspicious. Look at the skin tones. They look the same. And from what I experienced i the trial, there was not a single skin tone as light as the default Sara. They looked greyer or pinker, but never as pale. But it could be lighting? The moles will help us figure it out!!! Anyone got the preset pics handy??
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 1:26:46 GMT
Comparison, for anyone who is interested: Current Default:'Mystery' Default: yeah.....the mystery one looks almost too identical to be a custom character. the main difference that I can tell is that they mystery face has better "texture" and seems overall "smoother" or "softer" or something. it's subtle, but the mystery one is prettier. but still, too similar to be a custom, imo. unless the guy was a master at the CC.........
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 1:33:48 GMT
yeah. it needs to be explained. I'm now curious if other early players got that too. The vid is in French, so maybe it's an international thing? Players in certain regions might have gotten access to an older or different build somehow? regardless, it does need an explanation. And if that Ryder was indeed made from an existing preset, I want to know which one and I want sliders damnit!! lol edit: and I translated the Youtube comments into English. In the translated English, people were asking him how he got that Sara head. And he said it's CUSTOM!! He just cut the creation part out as he did it earlier?? that seems suspicious, cuz that custom face does not look like any of the current presets. definitely weird. If it is a custom build that we are able to do with the current CC, then maybe there is some hope for it (at least for what I would like to play). But I cannot see which preset option it would be. He must be a master at making something good outta poop! LOL!!! AArrgg..I wish he would have let us see daddy Ryder...then we would know which preset he used! EDITED - but looking at the comparison in the above post (thanks xMissWoox!), I agree that it is suspicious. Look at the skin tones. They look the same. And from what I experienced i the trial, there was not a single skin tone as light as the default Sara. They looked greyer or pinker, but never as pale. But it could be lighting? The moles will help us figure it out!!! Anyone got the preset pics handy?? I still think it's the same as this face from the Multiplayer: i.imgur.com/WbrSbCZ.pngThe eyebrows are the same, and the skin tone/texture appears to be as well. So I'm still betting that it was a separate preset that they decided to remove from the SP game and add to the MP game in the last minute for...reasons. Edit: and you definitely can't make it in the current CC by playing around with sliders. None of the presets have that skin texture or eyebrows.
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Post by jasonpogo on Mar 18, 2017 1:35:54 GMT
I was surprised by the end of my 10 hour trial I was able to end up with a male and female Ryder I liked. But I still think this CC is a joke and the whole Alec Ryder NOT changing with how you edit your face is very frustrating.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:36:46 GMT
yeah. it needs to be explained. I'm now curious if other early players got that too. The vid is in French, so maybe it's an international thing? Players in certain regions might have gotten access to an older or different build somehow? regardless, it does need an explanation. And if that Ryder was indeed made from an existing preset, I want to know which one and I want sliders damnit!! lol edit: and I translated the Youtube comments into English. In the translated English, people were asking him how he got that Sara head. And he said it's CUSTOM!! He just cut the creation part out as he did it earlier?? that seems suspicious, cuz that custom face does not look like any of the current presets. definitely weird. If it is a custom build that we are able to do with the current CC, then maybe there is some hope for it (at least for what I would like to play). But I cannot see which preset option it would be. He must be a master at making something good outta poop! LOL!!! AArrgg..I wish he would have let us see daddy Ryder...then we would know which preset he used! EDITED - but looking at the comparison in the above post (thanks xMissWoox!), I agree that it is suspicious. Look at the skin tones. They look the same. And from what I experienced i the trial, there was not a single skin tone as light as the default Sara. They looked greyer or pinker, but never as pale. But it could be lighting? The moles will help us figure it out!!! Anyone got the preset pics handy?? There are moles on preset 1 atleast, i made a Sara on that preset today. Maybe its that one tweaked. If it is custom it will get uploaded to archives by someone and we can download it.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 1:41:27 GMT
If it is a custom build that we are able to do with the current CC, then maybe there is some hope for it (at least for what I would like to play). But I cannot see which preset option it would be. He must be a master at making something good outta poop! LOL!!! AArrgg..I wish he would have let us see daddy Ryder...then we would know which preset he used! EDITED - but looking at the comparison in the above post (thanks xMissWoox!), I agree that it is suspicious. Look at the skin tones. They look the same. And from what I experienced i the trial, there was not a single skin tone as light as the default Sara. They looked greyer or pinker, but never as pale. But it could be lighting? The moles will help us figure it out!!! Anyone got the preset pics handy?? There are moles on preset 1 atleast, i made a Sara on that preset today. Maybe its that one tweaked. If it is custom it will get uploaded to archives by someone and we can download it. But preset 1 is the Asian one, right? No way you can get that result from messing around with the sliders. All they basically do is change the position of the features, not resculpt the entire face. It's 100% not any of the current presets we have.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Mar 18, 2017 1:48:24 GMT
Ok so... after trying to make a character twice and staying up waaaaay too late last night... I've come to the conclusion that, while creating a character is one of my absolute favorite things to do, bioware needs to stop. Just stop. They are quite bad at character creation. You've had 3 mass effects and 3 dragon ages to come up with a decent CC and you still give weird helmet looking hairstyles and "presets" that are very difficult to make into something decent unless you're a sculpting god. Please, just pay Bethesda for their FO4 CC and use it, straight up copy it.
I actually came up with something I liked, sorta, but then... Bioware's CC genius struck again and the character looked nothing like what I had in the CC in the actual game.
And let's not get me started on the fact that by using these presets, I couldn't use the facial shape I wanted with the skin tone I wanted so I was forced to just default to default sara.
OH and once again... cutscene not skippable on top of not being able to customize your character's face in game.
At this point, just go the way of CDPR and pick a character and have no customization. Le sigh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:49:52 GMT
There are moles on preset 1 atleast, i made a Sara on that preset today. Maybe its that one tweaked. If it is custom it will get uploaded to archives by someone and we can download it. But preset 1 is the Asian one, right? No way you can get that result from messing around with the sliders. All they basically do is change the position of the features, not resculpt the entire face. It's 100% not any of the current presets we have. Yep and the moles are not in the same place anyway. So this video is from March 16, and it is on Xbox One. This is weird. Time to translate french comments on the video.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 1:51:42 GMT
But preset 1 is the Asian one, right? No way you can get that result from messing around with the sliders. All they basically do is change the position of the features, not resculpt the entire face. It's 100% not any of the current presets we have. Yep and the moles are not in the same place anyway. So this video is from March 16, and it is on Xbox One. This is weird. Time to translate french comments on the video. Haha, yup, time for more detective work. Any French speakers lurking in this thread?
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Post by exo on Mar 18, 2017 1:53:36 GMT
Yep and the moles are not in the same place anyway. So this video is from March 16, and it is on Xbox One. This is weird. Time to translate french comments on the video. Haha, yup, time for more detective work. Any French speakers lurking in this thread? Damn this investigation thing is pretty exciting Sadly I had the choice to learn french two times but chose Latin and Spanish instead
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Post by vyshekryshi on Mar 18, 2017 1:56:18 GMT
Only Sara and SP Preset 9 have moles on that place on the right cheek.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 1:56:30 GMT
Haha, yup, time for more detective work. Any French speakers lurking in this thread? Damn this investigation thing is pretty exciting Sadly I had the choice to learn french two times but chose Latin and Spanish instead Haha, I grew up in Canada for a while and had to take French classes, but I pretty much slept through the entire thing and didn't retain any of it, unfortunately.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 1:58:52 GMT
Well he does press quick start default Sara or whatever that option is. Damn how did he get it to work. There are questions about it in the comments, and they did answer, but the google translate is horribad!
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Post by sparkysparkyboomgirl on Mar 18, 2017 2:03:00 GMT
If it is a custom build that we are able to do with the current CC, then maybe there is some hope for it (at least for what I would like to play). But I cannot see which preset option it would be. He must be a master at making something good outta poop! LOL!!! AArrgg..I wish he would have let us see daddy Ryder...then we would know which preset he used! EDITED - but looking at the comparison in the above post (thanks xMissWoox!), I agree that it is suspicious. Look at the skin tones. They look the same. And from what I experienced i the trial, there was not a single skin tone as light as the default Sara. They looked greyer or pinker, but never as pale. But it could be lighting? The moles will help us figure it out!!! Anyone got the preset pics handy?? I still think it's the same as this face from the Multiplayer: i.imgur.com/WbrSbCZ.pngThe eyebrows are the same, and the skin tone/texture appears to be as well. So I'm still betting that it was a separate preset that they decided to remove from the SP game and add to the MP game in the last minute for...reasons. Edit: and you definitely can't make it in the current CC by playing around with sliders. None of the presets have that skin texture or eyebrows. So who should we tweet the MP face too? It's already in the game so they won't need to make a new face, it seems like the best solution.
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Post by The Elder King on Mar 18, 2017 2:03:13 GMT
I get that Sara doesn't look good (or even better, she has worse animations then customs ones), but she doesn't look like that in the final game. And in any case, animations going wrong aren't a good way to compare how close she looks to her model. Using the final game's face as the custom on the right, where the animations work mostly fine, is a better way to compare them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 2:06:54 GMT
I still think it's the same as this face from the Multiplayer: i.imgur.com/WbrSbCZ.pngThe eyebrows are the same, and the skin tone/texture appears to be as well. So I'm still betting that it was a separate preset that they decided to remove from the SP game and add to the MP game in the last minute for...reasons. Edit: and you definitely can't make it in the current CC by playing around with sliders. None of the presets have that skin texture or eyebrows. So who should we tweet the MP face too? It's already in the game so they won't need to make a new face, it seems like the best solution. Ian would be a safe bet. He is lead designer. Think his twitter handle is Tibermoon or something.
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Post by timebean on Mar 18, 2017 2:07:39 GMT
I get that Sara doesn't look good (or even better, she has worse animations then customs ones), but she doesn't look like that in the final game. And in any case, animations going wrong aren't a good way to compare how close she looks to her model. Using the final game's face as the custom on the right, where the animations work mostly fine, is a better way to compare them. I agree. I just did not have the same shots to do that (and my trial is finished)! And I was just making the point that when I saw the french video's default (?) Sara, I was immediately reminded of the model she was supposedly based on. The other comparison of the two defaults posted by xMissWoox (a few posts back) is a more fair comparison of the two different faces in game.
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