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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 2:09:53 GMT
I still think it's the same as this face from the Multiplayer: i.imgur.com/WbrSbCZ.pngThe eyebrows are the same, and the skin tone/texture appears to be as well. So I'm still betting that it was a separate preset that they decided to remove from the SP game and add to the MP game in the last minute for...reasons. Edit: and you definitely can't make it in the current CC by playing around with sliders. None of the presets have that skin texture or eyebrows. So who should we tweet the MP face too? It's already in the game so they won't need to make a new face, it seems like the best solution. I've been tweeting: twitter.com/tibermoon and twitter.com/GambleMikeNot sure if there's someone better to ask. Neither of them have responded to me yet, but I'm going to keep trying. But yeah, I agree, it's already in the game and judging from the video all the animations work really well with the face, so why not give it to us and let us use it?
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 2:20:09 GMT
Mar 17, 2017 19:51:42 GMT -6 adasirin said:Haha, yup, time for more detective work. Any French speakers lurking in this thread? Yes! I am watching the video now, let me see if I can pick anything else up from it...
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Post by gxiii on Mar 18, 2017 2:21:15 GMT
I like how my fem-Ryder turned out but it's so annoying that you can't change all that much with each preset, this was as light as the skin tone would go on my preset (8 I believe) Links to the full sized images next to the pics ibb.co/gBkNFaibb.co/hkn2Fa
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 2:28:24 GMT
Alright so in the french video, it's preset 1. Masterfully done. But it's 1. There's no extra preset or anything.
They did not quick start, they just cut the video to skip the CC for that face and started the game where they had left off when showing off the CC at the beginning of the video.
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Post by vyshekryshi on Mar 18, 2017 2:34:55 GMT
Alright so in the french video, it's preset 1. Masterfully done. But it's 1. There's no extra preset or anything. They did not quick start, they just cut the video to skip the CC for that face and started the game where they had left off when showing off the CC at the beginning of the video. Then the face texture is different. Preset 1 has 3 moles near the mouth (there are none in the video) and none on the top of the right cheek.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 2:35:55 GMT
Alright so in the french video, it's preset 1. Masterfully done. But it's 1. There's no extra preset or anything. They did not quick start, they just cut the video to skip the CC for that face and started the game where they had left off when showing off the CC at the beginning of the video. Thanks for looking into it! But I just don't see how it could possibly be the same preset 1 that we have. I mean, the sliders barely effect anything (just slight adjustments in the position & size of facial features) — you can't radically transform the facial features to an unrecognisable degree with the current tools. And the skin texture is completely different — I don't just mean the shade, but the actual texture itself. Also, the eyebrows are different too. If they say in the video that they used preset 1, I feel like it must have been an earlier version where preset 1 is different to the one we have.
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Post by timebean on Mar 18, 2017 2:37:40 GMT
Alright so in the french video, it's preset 1. Masterfully done. But it's 1. There's no extra preset or anything. They did not quick start, they just cut the video to skip the CC for that face and started the game where they had left off when showing off the CC at the beginning of the video. Well...mayhap there is hope after all!! Thanks for translating all that! Note - I tried to tweak the #1 preset myself to achieve something like this when I played my trial (because her skin was the prettiest texture, imo), but I couldn't seem to make her nose and forehead look like they did. I guess I'll try again in a few days when I get the game! Although I have to say...it really does look the Sara default, in terms of skin texture/moles, with her jaw thinned, her makeup different, and her eye color changed. I am amazed they were able to do this with the Asian default...
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 2:39:21 GMT
But preset 1 is the Asian one, right? No way you can get that result from messing around with the sliders. All they basically do is change the position of the features, not resculpt the entire face. It's 100% not any of the current presets we have. Yep and the moles are not in the same place anyway. So this video is from March 16, and it is on Xbox One. This is weird. Time to translate french comments on the video. I used my browser to translate the french comments to imperfect english. some people were asking how did he get that Sara face, and he seemed to be suggesting it was a CUSTOM face that he had created earlier but cut the creation part out of his video. that seems suspicious.........
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 2:42:31 GMT
Yep and the moles are not in the same place anyway. So this video is from March 16, and it is on Xbox One. This is weird. Time to translate french comments on the video. I used my browser to translate the french comments to imperfect english. some people were asking how did he get that Sara face, and he seemed to be suggesting it was a CUSTOM face that he had created earlier but cut the creation part out of his video. that seems suspicious......... Are you referring to the "MRTV Gaming" person that answers questions a lot in the comments? Because they're not the actual video uploader (at least, according to the username) — the uploader is "Micromania TV_France". So if all this preset 1 talk originates from this "MRTV Gaming" person, are we sure it's not just some random person giving their opinion?
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 2:47:59 GMT
Yikes, one person claims it's a custom face, however, no one on the comment section actually believes it. Looking at the CC right now, you guys are right it's can't be 1, or any other preset. When watching the video there clearly is no cut, they even say "We'll just jump right into it with Sara...." So hmmmm yeah.... The last commenter on the video claims that this was made and uploaded to youtube before the embargo was lifted, so it was probably hidden until they were allowed to publish it. SOOOOOO, it looks like this in fact an older version of the game. :/
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Post by xMissWoox on Mar 18, 2017 2:48:23 GMT
The thing that's confusing me the most are the eyebrows. I can't see any preset that has those eyebrows - they don't even match default Sara's.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 2:50:04 GMT
Hmmm Yes the video creator CLAIMS that it is a custom face. However, no one on the comment section actually believes it. Looking at the CC right now, you guys are right it's can't be 1, or any other preset. When watching the video there clearly is no cut, they even say "We'll just jump right into it with Sara...." So hmmmm yeah.... The last commenter on the video claims that this was made and uploaded to youtube before the embargo was lifted, so it was probably hidden until they were allowed to publish it. SOOOOOO, it looks like this in fact an older version of the game. :/ Just to clarify so I don't misunderstand, when you say "video creator CLAIMS that it is a custom face" are you referring to the person speaking in the actual video, or the "MRTV Gaming" person responding in the comments?
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 2:51:11 GMT
I used my browser to translate the french comments to imperfect english. some people were asking how did he get that Sara face, and he seemed to be suggesting it was a CUSTOM face that he had created earlier but cut the creation part out of his video. that seems suspicious......... Are you referring to the "MRTV Gaming" person that answers questions a lot in the comments? Because they're not the actual video uploader (at least, according to the username) — the uploader is "Micromania TV_France". So if all this preset 1 talk originates from this "MRTV Gaming" person, are we sure it's not just some random person giving their opinion? yeah, I think I'm referring to MRTV Gaming. It seemed like that was the uploader. anyways, I saw the poster above who understands French. If this is indeed based on Preset 1, then that's masterful. However, it still seems off, cuz when I look at Preset 1 and compare to the mystery model, the moles aren't in the same position. Preset 1, which is clearly Asian as well, has a mole on the bottom left chin but no distinct moles ( that I can see ) on the right cheek. Mystery model has 2 moles on the right cheek, the same as default Sara. and here's a link to a custom Ryder that someone posted on Reddit based on Preset 1. imgur.com/a/C88e8You can clearly see that Asian Preset 1 does NOT have those 2 moles on the left cheek like mystery model does.
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Post by Dazzle on Mar 18, 2017 2:51:34 GMT
So the devs really didn't talk about CC or the animations other than to basically they're commited to making improvements where they can, and that they love their players and want to make us happy.
I did get to watch a section of Liam's loyalty mission, and I disn't see any janky animations at all in that time. And I was watching on a 100 foot screen, so I hope I'd see any issues if they were there. Scott looks good in game, at least to my eyes.
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 2:51:49 GMT
Just to clarify so I don't misunderstand, when you say "video creator CLAIMS that it is a custom face" are you referring to the person speaking in the actual video, or the "MRTV Gaming" person responding in the comments? Yes I just realized that's just another commenter. It doesn't look like the creator commented at all so far.
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Post by vyshekryshi on Mar 18, 2017 2:53:44 GMT
My French is very basic and I haven't found anything about using Preset 1 or any other particular preset, just the vague "this is custom".
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 2:54:18 GMT
In the clip there are also more of the fish lips that we saw in earlier builds. Most of this has been fixed by the patches included in the early access of the game. I wonder if this is a build before the day 1 patches. Still that doesn't make sense as we've seen this default Sara in marketing for a while. This is confusing!
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 2:54:51 GMT
and here's a link to a custom Ryder that someone posted on Reddit based on Preset 1. imgur.com/a/C88e8
You can clearly see that Asian Preset 1 does NOT have those 2 moles on the left cheek like mystery model does.
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Post by adasirin on Mar 18, 2017 2:55:42 GMT
Just to clarify so I don't misunderstand, when you say "video creator CLAIMS that it is a custom face" are you referring to the person speaking in the actual video, or the "MRTV Gaming" person responding in the comments? Yes I just realized that's just another commenter. It doesn't look like the creator commented at all so far. Right, that's what I thought might be the explanation. When I tried to use google translate earlier to understand what they were saying in the comments, I figured this "MRTV Gaming" person might just be some random commentator giving their opinion because the username doesn't match the video uploader. It did seem like they were talking as though they were the uploader, though, so it was confusing. So the mystery continues...
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 2:58:48 GMT
guys, look at the pic of Preset 1 I posted and linked to above. you can clearly see the moles do NOT match mystery model.
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 2:59:39 GMT
It's not custom, it IS Sara.
Sorry about the confusion guys. The video was done live on March 16th. Apparently it's the early access version from Xbox 1.
Except I wonder if it's not an earlier build they might have been sent. (But that's my own speculation)
:S
It's really weird because at the beginning of the video the default Sara is CLEARLY the one we know well by now. But then they start the game, via Quickstart with Sara Ryder and then you get the other prettier version.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 3:00:20 GMT
In the clip there are also more of the fish lips that we saw in earlier builds. Most of this has been fixed by the patches included in the early access of the game. I wonder if this is a build before the day 1 patches. Still that doesn't make sense as we've seen this default Sara in marketing for a while. This is confusing! It's also weird how this one French player got this build/version with a different Sara Ryder ( or perhaps a different custom preset ) while everyone else didn't.
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Post by XKnight on Mar 18, 2017 3:03:33 GMT
It's not custom, it IS Sara. Sorry about the confusion guys. The video was done live on March 16th. Apparently it's the early access version from Xbox 1. Except I wonder if it's not an earlier build they might have been sent. (But that's my own speculation) :S thanks for clearing that up. yeah, there's no way that's based on Preset 1. but it still begs the question, how come that French player got this seemingly earlier build on early access on Xbox 1 but no one else has. and also, why the heck did Bioware change the default?? if you compare the two default models, you would think current Sara is from the earlier, work in progress build, and the mystery model is the latest, more refined and ready for launch, build. but apparently, it's just the opposite. which makes no sense!
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Post by Eshaye on Mar 18, 2017 3:10:41 GMT
Also.. Where's our Sara Ryder trailer? I thought that was coming like right away? Perhaps.... They DID change her face? We can only hope. And I want to customize it....
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