Character Creator & Character Customization (Official Thread)

that's one hell of a glitch......lol.

also, I'm noticing other "differences."

I've been watching the French version "side by side" with another video of default Sara going through the opening moments.

It's weird that the animations are the same.  Lexi looks the same.

but stuff in the background is different.  

In the French version, when Sara is sitting down and Lexi is conducting the initial check up ( follow my fingers ) and then the "tone box" tutorial pops up, if you look in the background, you can see that the ceiling lights are blinking red.  In the English vid, the ceiling lights are solid blue/white.

then when the camera focuses back on Sara, you can see a monitor behind her.  In the French version, the screen is blinking.  In the English vid, it's solid.

also, as the scene progresses, in the French video, you can see sparks and smoke in the background.  None of that is in the English vid.

this is all so weird........lol.  

I think he created a custom Sara, canceled, and then selected the default Sara setting off a glitch that merged the textures along with the custom Sara's mesh overriding the default's (pay attention to the cheeks, and jaw). 

Honestly I was just wondering this. I dont think it had anything to do with feminism or a sjw agenda like many people think. I have a couple theories for why she looks different from her face model. I was looking at the face model and a recent pic of fem ryder expecting to see major differences in the facial features but they actually look very similar. So i dont think its one thing in particular I think it's a combination of things that went wrong that explains the difference.

If you look closely at female ryder's facial features they look spot on with the model but something is still off. (Pics under spoiler) 



The model Jayde Rossi, in alot of the pictures that people are seeing of her online, she's wearing makeup and on photoshoots (which means there's some photo editing involved) and female ryder as you notice doesn't wear much makeup (which make sense because she's suppose to be a solider so that's pretty rational) however the face model was most likey told not to wear any makeup and pull her hair back when the face scan was taking place so they could get the most accurate view of her facial features and as a girl that wears makeup, it can make the face look a bit different.

Male ryder's model obviously doesn't wear makeup so that could somewhat explain some of the difference. Another thing is the art style, as everyone knows by now the eyes look really dead and overall the artstyle is cartoony which adds to the uncanny valley look and lastly compared to the face model fem ryders face is a tad bit puffy for some reason maybe it was to make her look younger? Im not sure why but I do notice it. Alone these things probably wouldn't change her face to much but all those together is probably why femryder looks so different to many people from her face model. The terrible facial animations also don't help.

Overall, I think femryder is very attractive but also in a average way. She isn't supermodel gorgeous but im sure with better hair and some makeup she would be. I get how some people dont think she's attractive but you would think she's the ugliest video game character ever the way people make it seem which makes it worse is her facial features are almost exactly like her model so it's twice as insulting. I think if you gave femryder the same hair and makeup as her model she'd probably look just like her. Anyways that's my theory of why she looks so different. 

I don't have access. But from this screenshot I'm not so sure it's the same face.

I noticed this too. Maybe they used complexion swap somehow, it's possible but it's bit weird that they know how to do this so quick. But I'd like to know how.
If we can get to complexions we could alter all presets and make changes. 

How could they switch the complexion on a console on March 16th? .... I just don't buy that they would go to all that trouble. They would have had to crack the game before early access.. :/ I'm not familiar with Xbox 1 but I know it's not like the PC to mod.

I guess I won't hold my breath for patch. We don't know what it will fix. Probably nothing major.
I think I'll wait for some mods. It's my only hope.

And you are right to do so. Here is the video (from that topic bsn.boards.net/thread/5343/happened-video-included  ) proving that BW used every preset in cut-scenes (this is where, I assune, all the "customization budget" money were wasted - 20 runs for every scene!). The original preset (that face number) is visible through the chages player made (starting from medical check-up scene).

I guess, they hoped that this way face animation will be perfect. As we know now, the guess was wrong but the damage - unchangeable pre-sets - was done and nothing cona be done about it anymore.

Oh, and as we know now, "day-1 patch" is already in that 10 hours trial, so, what you see is what you get.

I am obviously not a game developer, so, it's all guessing. What I see here is: the player choose a preset and slightly modified it (practically changed skin color). However, at some point of the game (medical bay) that preset he used for his Raider is shown. This is how that unmodified preset looks like. We do know that the reason CC is so limited is because real scans were used, that, in turn, were used to make face animation smoother. My conclusion (agree, it can be an overstretch) is every preset (every scan) was run through every cutscene in hope to make it look good. That means there will never be more faces in CC, and they can not allow face features to be modified or animation will be ruined.

In short - do not wait for a "magical patch" fixing CC, it will never happen.